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Post by tcdobinghoff on Nov 6, 2023 18:45:15 GMT
Complicated issues raised here. As a society we have, in general , become more likely to show our response to tragedy in a more public way than ever it was in the past. This doesn’t just apply to Remembrance Day. Personally I sometimes find this hard to understand and I am definitely old school but that’s the way society has changed. Is it “virtue signalling” ? Well this is a bit of a catch-all phrase to employ when you disapprove of something but you can only speculate at people’s motivation.
I am so grateful that I am the first of my family in recent times not to be sent to war. My namesakes figure on too many memorials. The more we can remember the millions of (mostly) working class lads who were sent to their deaths the better. It may , as one person on here observed , a hundred years ago but look around the world and we need to be very mindful that war and death are never far away.
Anything that can be done to remind present generations of the sacrifices made in the past is ok with me even if I am not completely in agreement with how it’s done sometimes. I do find it disturbing to read posts that refer to the events of Remembrance Day as “rubbish” and “ shit”.
We should never forget.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Nov 6, 2023 19:46:44 GMT
With regards to the pub I mentioned earlier, I don’t know who was behind it and maybe their intentions were genuine. The amount of rubbish in the tabloids and especially on social media has made me incredibly cynical.
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Post by grovepotter on Nov 6, 2023 19:49:22 GMT
I would argue there is a direct correlation between the amount of whinging people do about players taking the knee and then on the other hand how exorbitantly they are about poppies. It is almost like the fallen heros have nothing to do with it, personally I respect them both but do not wear a poppy or take the knee. People have every right to show respect as they wish, just don't be a dick about it, whether than be booing the poppies or taking a knee.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 6, 2023 20:12:16 GMT
Excellent rendition at Spurs tonight.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2023 20:20:19 GMT
Excellent rendition at Spurs tonight. I thought the one at Stoke on Saturday was superb and very well observed by all supporters
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2023 20:23:42 GMT
I would argue there is a direct correlation between the amount of whinging people do about players taking the knee and then on the other hand how exorbitantly they are about poppies. It is almost like the fallen heros have nothing to do with it, personally I respect them both but do not wear a poppy or take the knee. People have every right to show respect as they wish, just don't be a dick about it, whether than be booing the poppies or taking a knee. They’re completely different. Remembrance Day is about showing respect to the people who have ensured we all live our lives as we have done since, an absolutely remarkable achievement. Taking the knee is remembering a criminal who was killed by the police in America. And to compare the two is everything that’s wrong with todays society
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 6, 2023 20:24:04 GMT
Excellent rendition at Spurs tonight. I thought the one at Stoke on Saturday was superb and very well observed by all supporters It was a very good effort 👌 We always do a good job of remembrance at Stoke.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 6, 2023 20:25:19 GMT
I thought the one at Stoke on Saturday was superb and very well observed by all supporters It was a very good effort 👌 We always do a good job of remembrance at Stoke. We do but especially this weekend, it was loud and proud
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Post by bolders on Nov 6, 2023 20:34:16 GMT
Is anyone actually arsed about this? Yes, some of us have served and lost friends in war
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Nov 7, 2023 10:45:55 GMT
Is anyone actually arsed about this? Yes, some of us have served and lost friends in war This........ and some of us have not served and lost friends in the armed forces
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Post by daz2631 on Nov 7, 2023 12:18:37 GMT
I have served and it means a lot to all those that have and i think it means more to people over a certain age as well.
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Post by grovepotter on Nov 7, 2023 15:58:19 GMT
I would argue there is a direct correlation between the amount of whinging people do about players taking the knee and then on the other hand how exorbitantly they are about poppies. It is almost like the fallen heros have nothing to do with it, personally I respect them both but do not wear a poppy or take the knee. People have every right to show respect as they wish, just don't be a dick about it, whether than be booing the poppies or taking a knee. They’re completely different. Remembrance Day is about showing respect to the people who have ensured we all live our lives as we have done since, an absolutely remarkable achievement. Taking the knee is remembering a criminal who was killed by the police in America. And to compare the two is everything that’s wrong with todays society I think your response is sadly typical of people of the UK. Taking the knee is about the divisions within society, in the UK and around the world, especially racial inequality. The same people moaning about it, would have also complained when women were marching for equality.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 7, 2023 17:10:03 GMT
They’re completely different. Remembrance Day is about showing respect to the people who have ensured we all live our lives as we have done since, an absolutely remarkable achievement. Taking the knee is remembering a criminal who was killed by the police in America. And to compare the two is everything that’s wrong with todays society I think your response is sadly typical of people of the UK. Taking the knee is about the divisions within society, in the UK and around the world, especially racial inequality. The same people moaning about it, would have also complained when women were marching for equality. Based on what?
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Post by onepara on Nov 7, 2023 17:47:19 GMT
Noticed Luton played the last post after the minutes silence today. One bugler played The Last post and during the minutes silence a second bugler played The Reverie followed by the refs whistle to end the proceedings. Last Post, minutes silence, followed by Reveille. That's how it was when I was in the Army.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 7, 2023 17:54:31 GMT
They’re completely different. Remembrance Day is about showing respect to the people who have ensured we all live our lives as we have done since, an absolutely remarkable achievement. Taking the knee is remembering a criminal who was killed by the police in America. And to compare the two is everything that’s wrong with todays society I think your response is sadly typical of people of the UK. Taking the knee is about the divisions within society, in the UK and around the world, especially racial inequality. The same people moaning about it, would have also complained when women were marching for equality. Right ho
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