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Post by baconburger on Oct 30, 2023 8:54:13 GMT
More like £10/15M depending on what the wage situation looks like. Assuming the owners are happy to make a loss circa £13M which I think that’s what John C implies when he says they’ll invest what they’re allowed to. I don’t know how close we are to wages being limited to 70% of income and whether that would be as well as or instead of £39M cumulative losses over 3 years . We can shed a couple more big wages in the Summer with very little detriment to us on the field. Very little information available as to what the Summer signings are earning though you’d think quite a few of them would be on modest wages. If we had that kind of money we would have got the Davies deal and the Albion striker deal done I hope not, that would be repeating mistakes we’ve made over and over in the value of something being governed by the funds available. I think there are signs we’re doing things differently even the Ciaran Clarke deal we held off on over our valuation in wages until our situation became more urgent. Obviously with that 70% of income on wages thing somewhere on the horizon it could be introducing a new limit that we have to bear in mind but even then we have some large earners contributing very little in which case you could replace Dwight Gayle with a marquee signing and Wesley with two top end championship players. Then there’s the potential for increased income from a proposed deal with the premier league that they’re only proposing because they know a new football regulator will impose one if they don’t get ahead of the game. It’s just so much more complicated than player trading fees, I really like what we’re doing and that’s nothing to do with the last 3 games I still liked it and wanted it to survive when we were just outside the bottom 3 I think it needs to be given a few years not a few weeks.
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 30, 2023 10:11:03 GMT
Souttar would be a great signing and surely a possibility. I hope we at least explore it. He's in their side now Benched and not come on last few I think.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Oct 30, 2023 10:51:38 GMT
I think we should be looking for a Goalkeeper (I don't really rate Travers if I'm honest) so a new one, push the boat out for someone clearly above the levels we've had in recent years.
Left Back - Obvious reasons, Stevens is decent, but he's old and we need a young cover who will work their way to first choice throughou the season.
Centre Back - Wilmot injured, Clarke just pure back up, Rose not ideal defensively, but not as urgent as the other areas.
Other than that, when the squad is fit I don't have any issues with it really. I'd choose different personnel most games that Neil but then everyone would choose something different.
I'm still not convinced by the manager, not by a long way, but winning 3 on the bounce at the same time as the injury situation gets better would suggest he may not be too far off.
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Post by wonderwall on Oct 30, 2023 11:07:22 GMT
Would love us to buy travers, he will only get better.
He’s the steadiest goalie we’ve had for many years.
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Post by desman2 on Oct 30, 2023 11:17:10 GMT
I agree we need a keeper but I doubt Travers will be coming back - Bournemouth must be in trouble if they got permission to invoke a recall. Mmaee is an ideal striker for how we want to play. He isn't a classic lead the line striker - we are trying to play a more fluid and dynamic front three which demands a different sort of striker. Gayle was brought in yesterday to play a similar way and he isn't a lead the line striker either. We are quite well served upfront and midfield and if we are going to bring anyone in it has to be a centre back. We don't have adequate cover and the ones we have are raw and error prone - an experienced but not over the hill rock solid centre back could back the difference between a play off place and missing out. Bournemouth were not in that much trouble. Travis didn't play on Saturday. He was a benchwarmer The rest i agree with
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Post by idle on Oct 30, 2023 12:11:53 GMT
As others have said we need a goalie, a left-back and a centre back, in that priority. A striker shold be way down the list, unless we can get someone really good. Assante is not worth using money on, he's bang average. I think the midfield is well covered, as are the wings.
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Post by datguy on Oct 30, 2023 12:46:07 GMT
You'd be pretty upset if you were Mark Travers I think.
Getting dragged out of a guaranteed starting place here - when things are looking like they're on the up - to go and sit on the bench at Bournemouth.
Shame for the lad.
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Post by nonameface on Oct 30, 2023 19:31:26 GMT
The most exposed position we have is GK, so getting Travers back until the end of the season would be good and I think we are the only team he can play for this season other than Bournemouth? If not him then someone similar.
Other than that it would be good to only look at signing players that fit in with a longer term squad strategy and not to block the development player pathways. Based upon that it's much harder to find the right fit, possibly looking at options we can sign in the summer rather than the new year.
So, LB we have Thompson who can fill in for Stevens but really it would be best to have either a new first choice LB with Stevens being back up, or a player we can develop like Junior.
Two left centre backs to replace Clark and McNally at the end of the season would be good. That way Rose and Wilmott would both look alot better on the right.
A GK to replace Fielding (we must have extended only to strengthen our position if we couldn't sign a decent gk like Travers). Perhaps Simkin should be seen as an option, so tricky!
We are carrying more LW and RW than you'd ordinarily need, you could see us signing Haks and letting Campbell go this summer. Unlikely we keep both unless Lleris and/or Vidigal are sold.
We need to get rid of two forwards in Gayle and Wesley before signing anyone and we need to be mindful not to block two very talented forwards. How do we do that?
Similar with midfield, we've got one CM too many and need to make sure we don't block Sols pathway.
GK Bonham, Fielding RB Hoever, Junior CB Rose, McNally, Clark, Wilmott LB Stevens, Thompson CM Pearson, Thompson, Laurent, Burger, Sidibe, Baker CAM Johnson, Jun-Ho LW Vidigal, Haks, Gooch ST Mmaee, Gayle, Wesley, Tezgel, Lowe RW Lleris, Campbell, Gooch
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Post by onepara on Oct 30, 2023 19:47:49 GMT
I'm sure that our new recruiter has several names in his book that we weren't able to recruit at the last window. There will already be players under review for the January window.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 30, 2023 21:29:33 GMT
We should go back in for Assante. He's perfect for us
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Post by moon on Nov 1, 2023 14:38:22 GMT
Defence defence defence
Another CB or two, preferably one who can fill in at fullback, and a goalkeeper (or two).
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Post by Veritas on Nov 1, 2023 14:48:44 GMT
Defence defence defence Another CB or two, preferably one who can fill in at fullback, and a goalkeeper (or two). Full back cover? RB However, Junior, Gooch, Leris LB Stevens, Junior, Gooch, Thompson
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Post by jokker on Nov 1, 2023 15:13:59 GMT
T Keeper is crucial but is January the best time to sign one? Can only really be a loan I think. Maybe, but it would potentially leave us open to a Travers-like recall. As for getting Tezgel fit it appears to be much easier said than done. We should afford him the exact amount of time which is necessary to get him fully fit. How much is that? It could be towards the end of the season rather than sooner. Alternatively we might throw him in in a half fit fashion, but it would in all likelihood leave to new injuries, maybe of a minor kind, but they would stop him from reaching that reasonably full fitness and stop him from realizing his potential.
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Post by stokeyank on Nov 1, 2023 15:37:02 GMT
Defence defence defence Another CB or two, preferably one who can fill in at fullback, and a goalkeeper (or two). If everyone stays relatively healthy, this would be the only places I would look, barring anyone being sold or loaned out. We can do better in a few areas but then we need outgoings or you end up with another bloated squad.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Nov 1, 2023 16:20:29 GMT
Well to start with,
Goalkeeper, either decent loan again untill the end of the season or if he can buy a number one target then do that.
Left back, stevens needs competition, always looks loads better with a natural left footed player there.
Central defence, People have already said it a vocal leader required here. Not over the hill either.
CAM, someome to fight junho for the number 1 spot.
Striker, loan if poss then buy in summer.
If we could do that in jan id be happy. Couple out also maybe.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Nov 1, 2023 18:26:09 GMT
Left back CB dependent on what we do with Clarke GK
Aside from that depends if we sell Campbell. If we know he’s going in the summer get a RW in now.
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Post by stokefanone on Nov 1, 2023 18:28:20 GMT
We need a strong centre half.
First choice keeper.
If anyone leaves would need cover of course!
Otherwise the squad is good enough.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Nov 1, 2023 18:36:40 GMT
For me, we really need a keeper and a CB, but not sure this will be possible in Jan.
The biggest thing we seem to lack is an organiser, vocal, driven, gives their all. A leader essentially. I’m not sure we have anyone to look to when the team needs a lift.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Nov 2, 2023 11:42:53 GMT
If Campbell is going in the Summer then we wait until then to bring in a replacement. Personally I think it's time he went and I believe he intends to. Not getting him to sign a new contract or selling him this Summer was bad business.
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 2, 2023 11:47:15 GMT
If we’re serious about promotion this year (personally I think it would be a season too soon and we’d pull a Shef Utd) then we need:
- Travers back (or a decent keeper) - a strong reliable CB (ideally experienced) - a versatile CM (cover for Burger and Pearson) - a goal scoring CF (needs to score 12+ in the second half of season)
Get them in and we get top 6. Then it’s a lottery.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 2, 2023 12:44:19 GMT
If we’re serious about promotion this year (personally I think it would be a season too soon and we’d pull a Shef Utd) then we need: - Travers back (or a decent keeper) - a strong reliable CB (ideally experienced) - a versatile CM (cover for Burger and Pearson) - a goal scoring CF (needs to score 12+ in the second half of season) Get them in and we get top 6. Then it’s a lottery. Don't subscribe to this going up to early malarky. If we go up we go up and you deal with it. We're going to struggle whenever (if ever) we go up. We need a keeper in January or we cn forget the playoffs.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Nov 2, 2023 13:14:02 GMT
If we’re serious about promotion this year (personally I think it would be a season too soon and we’d pull a Shef Utd) then we need: - Travers back (or a decent keeper) - a strong reliable CB (ideally experienced) - a versatile CM (cover for Burger and Pearson) - a goal scoring CF (needs to score 12+ in the second half of season) Get them in and we get top 6. Then it’s a lottery. Don't subscribe to this going up to early malarky. If we go up we go up and you deal with it. We're going to struggle whenever (if ever) we go up. We need a keeper in January or we cn forget the playoffs. Yep, I'd much rather be trying to stay in the Premier League than trying to be promoted from the Championship.
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Post by vidigal7 on Nov 2, 2023 17:00:45 GMT
If Campbell is going in the Summer then we wait until then to bring in a replacement. Personally I think it's time he went and I believe he intends to. Not getting him to sign a new contract or selling him this Summer was bad business. I must admit I'm not his biggest fan, He's yet to prove he's a regular goalscorer and I'm not overly impressed with his ball control, lack of a roght foot and his box of tricks. It won't be the end of the world for me if he does move on, I believe he can be replaced
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Post by simpson on Nov 2, 2023 20:41:56 GMT
I think if we are realistic we will go for:
1- 1st choice goalkeeper 2- back up left back
Additionally, I would go for a number 9 who is mobile but a Prescence also.
Can`t see us getting a CB once Wilmot is fit and we have Clark. Plus, we have 2 loan slots.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 2, 2023 21:08:14 GMT
Neil sounds like he wants a keeper now if there is one.
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Post by numpty40 on Nov 2, 2023 22:29:43 GMT
Goalkeeper and left back are all we need, pretty well balanced for cover in other areas when everyone is fit.
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Post by lordb on Nov 2, 2023 23:04:23 GMT
Neil sounds like he wants a keeper now if there is one. Undoubtedly He has a reliable back up keeper but he needs a good number one whether that's Travers or some one else
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 3, 2023 8:43:41 GMT
Neil sounds like he wants a keeper now if there is one. Undoubtedly He has a reliable back up keeper but he needs a good number one whether that's Travers or some one else Talking about replacing him with a free transfer or an 18 year old hardly gave off reliable back up vibes. Thought it was pretty brutal tbh.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 3, 2023 8:55:35 GMT
Undoubtedly He has a reliable back up keeper but he needs a good number one whether that's Travers or some one else Talking about replacing him with a free transfer or an 18 year old hardly gave off reliable back up vibes. Thought it was pretty brutal tbh. Where did he say that? Because I could not see that in the interview I read?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 3, 2023 11:07:57 GMT
I would try move Campbell on, or am I being controversial with this one and replace him, with another up and coming prospect Wouldn't be too bothered if he left , personally. We're not going to get a big fee if he does. Obviously that injury stalled his career and he's not good enough to play at a higher level.
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