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Post by musik on Oct 22, 2023 21:58:27 GMT
The Election in Argentina.
Javier Milei, right wing anarchocapitalist libertarian populist (many names) El Loco = The Madman he was called at school due to aggressive outburst. It might still be true; I saw a video clip of today.
The result during the night?
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Post by marylandstoke on Oct 22, 2023 22:02:10 GMT
The Election in Argentina. Javier Milei, right wing anarchocapitalist libertarian populist (many names) El Loco = The Madman he was called at school due to aggressive outburst. It might still be true; I saw a video clip of today. The result during the night? Have seen the phrase “Argentinian Trump” used.
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Post by musik on Oct 22, 2023 22:44:33 GMT
The Election in Argentina. Javier Milei, right wing anarchocapitalist libertarian populist (many names) El Loco = The Madman he was called at school due to aggressive outburst. It might still be true; I saw a video clip of today. The result during the night? Have seen the phrase “Argentinian Trump” used. And a chainsaw and lots and lots of ugly words thrown against the opponent's and other politicians. When I saw the first video clip I thought it was an extreme version of stand up comedy. But people seem to actually vote for that?
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 23, 2023 1:42:55 GMT
Have seen the phrase “Argentinian Trump” used. And a chainsaw and lots and lots of ugly words thrown against the opponent's and other politicians. When I saw the first video clip I thought it was an extreme version of stand up comedy. But people seem to actually vote for that? Tbf from what my Argentinian friend was telling me the country has been a real mess for a long time. Not hard to see that people would want to shake things up. No idea about this guy, but often people seem to pick a bad person to shake things up...
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Post by wannabee on Oct 23, 2023 1:55:33 GMT
Old Allegiances are hard to break and the Peronist Candidate Sergio Massa is likely to hold a small but decisive lead over the lunatic Milei in the run off Election in a few weeks time
Not because he's done a particularly stellar job as Economy Minister with inflation running at 140% but the people have seen how near neighbours Brazil faired under the Populist Bolsonaro
The Big Winner will be China who for a relatively modest investment of say $40Bn will prop up the Peso to stave off a wipe-out of Argentina's Middle Classes Wealth (The smart money of the Elite has already flown) while US has been asleep at the wheel
Viva La Republica
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2023 5:32:01 GMT
I read on the bbc that the right wing populist is particularly popular amongst the younger demographics, which seems weird to me. But then it is a Southern Hemisphere country so maybe the Coriolis Effect is influencing more than just natural forces.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 23, 2023 5:46:49 GMT
Everyone to the BBC is a right wing populist. They described Giorgia Meloni as the next Hitler.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 23, 2023 6:06:39 GMT
Everyone to the BBC is a right wing populist. They described Giorgia Meloni as the next Hitler. They didn't though, did they, other than in your head 🤣
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 23, 2023 6:54:10 GMT
Everyone to the BBC is a right wing populist. They described Giorgia Meloni as the next Hitler. They didn't though, did they, other than in your head 🤣 No, they really did. Pretty much every single descriptive article they published in the build up to the Italian election referred to Meloni as "far right" and we saw your beloved propaganda machine continuously make reference to her support of Russia and her association with fascist groups of the past. The end result being Meloni won the election, has been as big a supporter of Ukraine as any leader in Europe and has led by example. Unfortunately for the BBC she also hasn't introduced any "far right" (whatever the fuck that even means to this totally useless organisation that is suffering reporting humiliation on a daily basis), any persecution of opposition or committed mass murder. She does, however, speak out in favour of strong families, freedom of choice, identity, applying reason to gender insanity and protecting borders. I'd expect nothing less than unwavering support of the BBC from a guy who despises Brexit, encourages open borders, supported lockdowns and wants Keir Starmer to be our next PM. Enjoy your Monday 🌚
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Post by Veritas on Oct 23, 2023 7:12:56 GMT
They didn't though, did they, other than in your head 🤣 No, they really did. Pretty much every single descriptive article they published in the build up to the Italian election referred to Meloni as "far right" and we saw your beloved propaganda machine continuously make reference to her support of Russia and her association with fascist groups of the past. The end result being Meloni won the election, has been as big a supporter of Ukraine as any leader in Europe and has led by example. Unfortunately for the BBC she also hasn't introduced any "far right" (whatever the fuck that even means to this totally useless organisation that is suffering reporting humiliation on a daily basis), any persecution of opposition or committed mass murder. She does, however, speak out in favour of strong families, freedom of choice, identity, applying reason to gender insanity and protecting borders. I'd expect nothing less than unwavering support of the BBC from a guy who despises Brexit, encourages open borders, supported lockdowns and wants Keir Starmer to be our next PM. Enjoy your Monday 🌚 And when specifically did they say she was the new Hitler?
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Post by musik on Oct 23, 2023 7:25:17 GMT
Meloni as "far right" She does, however, speak out in favour of strong families, freedom of choice, identity, applying reason to gender insanity and protecting borders. At the age of 10 to 12 I had a class teacher who was a communist and she said China was the paradise on Earth. I was accused of being "far right" by her for some of the same reasons as stated above - at the age of 10!! We didn't get along at all. She formed me politically, by being the opposite. The gender thing is interesting. Within the expression Hbtqi I wondered recently what the "I" stood for. Intersexual. I read on Friday 1 new born baby out of 1500 these days are born with two sexes physically, biologically. I thought it was 1 in a million. Does anyone know if the numbers have increased?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Oct 23, 2023 7:33:11 GMT
Meloni as "far right" She does, however, speak out in favour of strong families, freedom of choice, identity, applying reason to gender insanity and protecting borders. At the age of 10 to 12 I had a class teacher who was a communist and she said China was the paradise on Earth. I was accused of being "far right" by her of some of the same reasons as stated above - at the age of 10!! We didn't get along at all. She formed me politically, by being the opposite. The gender thing is interesting. Within the expression Hbtqi I wondered recently what the "I" stood for. Intersexual. I read on Friday 1 new born baby out of 1500 these days are born with two sexes physically, biologically. I thought it was 1 in a million. Does anyone know if the numbers have increased? Everyone who questions what their fed by the mainstream media, woke corporate giants and our shocking education system is "far right" these days, don't take it personally 😊 Oh... And if you dare suggest that there are two genders and protecting one's borders might be a good idea, you are the ultimate fascist 😉
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Post by musik on Oct 23, 2023 11:20:14 GMT
At the age of 10 to 12 I had a class teacher who was a communist and she said China was the paradise on Earth. I was accused of being "far right" by her for some of the same reasons as stated above - at the age of 10!! We didn't get along at all. She formed me politically, by being the opposite. The gender thing is interesting. Within the expression Hbtqi I wondered recently what the "I" stood for. Intersexual. I read on Friday 1 new born baby out of 1500 these days are born with two sexes physically, biologically. I thought it was 1 in a million. Does anyone know if the numbers have increased? Everyone who questions what their fed by the mainstream media, woke corporate giants and our shocking education system is "far right" these days, don't take it personally 😊 Oh... And if you dare suggest that there are two genders and protecting one's borders might be a good idea, you are the ultimate fascist 😉 There ARE two genders biologically. I keep myself to what biology science says. However, as I mentioned, the intersexuals are born with two sexes. But it's a minority, 1 in 1500 persons. And I also fully respect someone who feels they are trapped in the wrong body. We must see that on an individual level, and find the explanation for it. Everything has an explanation.
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 23, 2023 11:45:07 GMT
Everyone who questions what their fed by the mainstream media, woke corporate giants and our shocking education system is "far right" these days, don't take it personally 😊 Oh... And if you dare suggest that there are two genders and protecting one's borders might be a good idea, you are the ultimate fascist 😉 There ARE two genders biologically. I keep myself to what biology science says. However, as I mentioned, the intersexuals are born with two sexes. But it's a minority, 1 in 1500 persons. And I also fully respect someone who feels they are trapped in the wrong body. We must see that on an individual level, and find the explanation for it. Everything has an explanation. You have that in reverse. Biology doesn’t define gender. It’s a social construct. Biology defines sex based on chromosomes and sexual anatomy. No idea about the intersex rates.
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Post by noustie on Oct 23, 2023 11:50:18 GMT
Everyone to the BBC is a right wing populist. They described Giorgia Meloni as the next Hitler. Hell of a maneuver to blitzkrieg Poland from there like!!
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Post by musik on Oct 23, 2023 12:04:48 GMT
There ARE two genders biologically. I keep myself to what biology science says. However, as I mentioned, the intersexuals are born with two sexes. But it's a minority, 1 in 1500 persons. And I also fully respect someone who feels they are trapped in the wrong body. We must see that on an individual level, and find the explanation for it. Everything has an explanation. You have that in reverse. Biology doesn’t define gender. It’s a social construct. Biology defines sex based on chromosomes and sexual anatomy. No idea about the intersex rates. Do the people within the HBTQI+ movement see it as a "social construction"? I don't think they always do. In Swedish we only use one word for it, "kön", sex that is. In English there are two words, sex and gender. Interesting if gender is a social construction. It would mean it's more of a soft thing that could be changed, an expectation, an idea, a feeling, a fantasy even. Assume a person feels trapped in the wrong body; A man (biologically) who doesn't "feel" like a man. Unfortunately, it's impossible to travel in time back or forth (it would surely solve a lot of issues, including this). But he could travel on Earth. Suppose he not felt like a man in the country he lives and travels across half of the globe to a completely different culture, a completely different world - a primitive one maybe. Wouldn't it be possible that person could change his idea of what it should feel like to be a man? I've always thought the gender thing was due to hormone imbalances and stuff = a biological thing. But now you're basically saying we (=our society, they way we live in a sociological meaning) have created this disturbance. If so, maybe the same can be said about some psychological disorders as well.
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Post by wannabee on Oct 23, 2023 12:22:56 GMT
Everyone to the BBC is a right wing populist. They described Giorgia Meloni as the next Hitler. There's nothing like the Smell of Hyperbole in the Morning You are totally incorrect. The BBC reported that the Brothers of Italy Party which Meloni is Leader had sacked its Party Co-ordinator in Sicily Calogero Pisano because of HIS comments comparing Meloni to Hitler www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62971802
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 23, 2023 13:04:47 GMT
You have that in reverse. Biology doesn’t define gender. It’s a social construct. Biology defines sex based on chromosomes and sexual anatomy. No idea about the intersex rates. Do the people within the HBTQI+ movement see it as a "social construction"? I don't think they always do. In Swedish we only use one word for it, "kön", sex that is. In English there are two words, sex and gender. Interesting if gender is a social construction. It would mean it's more of a soft thing that could be changed, an expectation, an idea, a feeling, a fantasy even. Assume a person feels trapped in the wrong body; A man (biologically) who doesn't "feel" like a man. Unfortunately, it's impossible to travel in time back or forth (it would surely solve a lot of issues, including this). But he could travel on Earth. Suppose he not felt like a man in the country he lives and travels across half of the globe to a completely different culture, a completely different world - a primitive one maybe. Wouldn't it be possible that person could change his idea of what it should feel like to be a man? I've always thought the gender thing was due to hormone imbalances and stuff = a biological thing. But now you're basically saying we (=our society, they way we live in a sociological meaning) have created this disturbance. If so, maybe the same can be said about some psychological disorders as well. That’s generally the idea, yes. Whether you or I buy into it or not (and I do think that there should be some concern about psychological disorders), it is understood that “sex” is the biological term and that “gender” is the social one that people change when they decide that they are no longer a man etc. Its made all the more confusing by terms like “sex change”, which isn’t what happens really, but it’s more catchy than “gender change operation”.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 23, 2023 13:19:32 GMT
The worrying thing for me is that the town of Fray Bentos is only a few miles into Uruguay from the Argentinian border. If he starts doing a Hitler, will we see a problem with the delivery of yummy, tinned Chicken pies in our local B & M stores?
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Post by musik on Oct 23, 2023 13:41:36 GMT
Do the people within the HBTQI+ movement see it as a "social construction"? I don't think they always do. In Swedish we only use one word for it, "kön", sex that is. In English there are two words, sex and gender. Interesting if gender is a social construction. It would mean it's more of a soft thing that could be changed, an expectation, an idea, a feeling, a fantasy even. Assume a person feels trapped in the wrong body; A man (biologically) who doesn't "feel" like a man. Unfortunately, it's impossible to travel in time back or forth (it would surely solve a lot of issues, including this). But he could travel on Earth. Suppose he not felt like a man in the country he lives and travels across half of the globe to a completely different culture, a completely different world - a primitive one maybe. Wouldn't it be possible that person could change his idea of what it should feel like to be a man? I've always thought the gender thing was due to hormone imbalances and stuff = a biological thing. But now you're basically saying we (=our society, they way we live in a sociological meaning) have created this disturbance. If so, maybe the same can be said about some psychological disorders as well. That’s generally the idea, yes. Whether you or I buy into it or not (and I do think that there should be some concern about psychological disorders), it is understood that “sex” is the biological term and that “gender” is the social one that people change when they decide that they are no longer a man etc. Its made all the more confusing by terms like “sex change”, which isn’t what happens really, but it’s more catchy than “gender change operation”. But if you undergo a surgery and replace the private parts - then I would say you're at least half way to a new sex identity. Much of it is still in the brain though, as far as I know. And if gender is just an idea about what is expected from you, I wouldn't recommend an operation in the first place. I've always seen this as a biological phenomena. I have to ask my sexologist friend or another female I know who handles hbtqi+ questions. It's not always easy to be a middle aged white heterosexual man. 🤠
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Post by musik on Oct 23, 2023 13:49:58 GMT
Old Allegiances are hard to break and the Peronist Candidate Sergio Massa is likely to hold a small but decisive lead over the lunatic Milei in the run off Election in a few weeks. Viva La Republica A few weeks? On text TV here you could read the result from the Election would be presented today. 🤔
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Post by wannabee on Oct 23, 2023 14:15:37 GMT
Old Allegiances are hard to break and the Peronist Candidate Sergio Massa is likely to hold a small but decisive lead over the lunatic Milei in the run off Election in a few weeks. Viva La Republica A few weeks? On text TV here you could read the result from the Election would be presented today. 🤔 Under Argentina's Presidential Voting System a Candidate must receive 50% of the Vote to be Elected Massa (Leftwing Peronist) received 36% and Milei 30% with various other Candidates the remainder and who are now eliminated There will be a Runoff on 19th November to decide the winner most likely Massa Prior to the Election Milei had led in the Polls which possibly prompted Bianco's Premature Elation
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 23, 2023 18:39:36 GMT
That’s generally the idea, yes. Whether you or I buy into it or not (and I do think that there should be some concern about psychological disorders), it is understood that “sex” is the biological term and that “gender” is the social one that people change when they decide that they are no longer a man etc. Its made all the more confusing by terms like “sex change”, which isn’t what happens really, but it’s more catchy than “gender change operation”. But if you undergo a surgery and replace the private parts - then I would say you're at least half way to a new sex identity. Much of it is still in the brain though, as far as I know. And if gender is just an idea about what is expected from you, I wouldn't recommend an operation in the first place. I've always seen this as a biological phenomena. I have to ask my sexologist friend or another female I know who handles hbtqi+ questions. It's not always easy to be a middle aged white heterosexual man. 🤠 It doesn’t change your sex, just as Michael Jackson wasn’t white after developing a skin condition that made his skin paler. Sex is a an internal biological thing. Sex chromosomes aren’t changed during a transition. There are some rare cases of people who are not XX/XY and those require more specific considerations. I think we are agreeing about this but perhaps using Nationality specific language. Anyways, it’s a massive diversion from the topic of the thread, so I’ll leave it there.
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Post by musik on Oct 23, 2023 19:27:15 GMT
But if you undergo a surgery and replace the private parts - then I would say you're at least half way to a new sex identity. Much of it is still in the brain though, as far as I know. And if gender is just an idea about what is expected from you, I wouldn't recommend an operation in the first place. I've always seen this as a biological phenomena. I have to ask my sexologist friend or another female I know who handles hbtqi+ questions. It's not always easy to be a middle aged white heterosexual man. 🤠 It doesn’t change your sex, just as Michael Jackson wasn’t white after developing a skin condition that made his skin paler. Sex is a an internal biological thing. Sex chromosomes aren’t changed during a transition. There are some rare cases of people who are not XX/XY and those require more specific considerations. I think we are agreeing about this but perhaps using Nationality specific language. Anyways, it’s a massive diversion from the topic of the thread, so I’ll leave it there. Internal biological thing. Yes. I brought it up, so the blame is on me. Now on to Argentina. 🤠
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 25, 2024 17:14:17 GMT
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Post by wannabee on Jan 25, 2024 17:35:43 GMT
His plan to make him an autocrat bypassing Parliament and the Courts currently being vigorously challenged in both Peso devalued by 50% and inflation went up by another 50% His Labour Reforms already blocked by the Courts What could possibly go wrong
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Post by cvillestokie on Jan 25, 2024 17:42:17 GMT
“major expansion of presidential powers, and a scaling back of workers’ rights and the right to protest” Another one that proclaims to be right wing but is really just after more centralized power. I feel very sorry for the people of Argentina. I really don’t see a way out for them.
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Post by gawa on Jan 25, 2024 17:56:46 GMT
Sounds familiar to what we hear back home this part: "Milei’s ministers voiced defiance as workers downed tools at the request of Argentina’s biggest trade union, the General Confederation of Labor. “[The strike] confirms we’re on the right path,” tweeted the foreign minister, Diana Mondino, claiming it had been organized by millionaire oligarchs “with bullet-proof cars and chauffeurs”." Pretty sure they're protesting because their rights are being stripped by millionaire oligarchs with bullet proof card and chauffeurs. Was only last month that this plonker decided that workers can be paid with good instead of money. Effectively making them slaves except at least slaves also got a roof over their head as part of their "salary".
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