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Post by BlurtonRed on Oct 7, 2023 21:05:24 GMT
I've sat there today and actually thought what the fuck is the point in all this? Why do I put myself, and more importantly my lad through all this absolute heartache, disappointment and frustration. It's absolute torture. Like loads on here I've been doing this shit for years. However now it just feels different. For years we were nothing and going nowhere, I could accept that. I can't see myself being able go through that again. I'm honestly going home and away now for my lad.His first game was the 3-2 Arsenal win, he loves it. He's OK with us being shit (he's young), he's OK with us probably never going win anything. This fucking club are draining the absolute fucking love I've got for it out of me. It's absolutely heart breaking. I sat there Tuesday before the game and watched that pre game video on the big screen and actually had a lump In my throat. How can a club sink so low in six seasons. Its heartbreaking. The blame is at the feet of the owners, they need sort this shit out sharpish
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 7, 2023 21:11:35 GMT
I suppose the answer to your question is that small/medium sized clubs like Stoke City will go though tough times and good times. This is a tough time, and it may get even worse, but at some point it will get better and we can challenge again.
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Post by BlurtonRed on Oct 7, 2023 21:15:55 GMT
I suppose the answer to your question is that small/medium sized clubs like Stoke City will go though tough times and good times. This is a tough time, and it may get even worse, but at some point it will get better and we can challenge again. Just seems like our bad/ tough patch never ends. For some unknown reason we'll carry on following them home and away....... suppose its better than trudging around primark on a Saturday afternoon with the Mrs |
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 7, 2023 21:17:13 GMT
I suppose the answer to your question is that small/medium sized clubs like Stoke City will go though tough times and good times. This is a tough time, and it may get even worse, but at some point it will get better and we can challenge again. Just seems like our bad/ tough patch never ends. For some unknown reason we'll carry on following them home and away....... suppose its better than trudging around primark on a Saturday afternoon with the Mrs It’s no different to fans of any club in the country though is it? Some clubs are doing well, others are struggling, and then it all swaps over and changes around. We were the envy of every middle sized club for ten years and now it’s Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford. Let’s see where they are in the next 5 or 10 years. |
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 7, 2023 21:19:07 GMT
I suppose the answer to your question is that small/medium sized clubs like Stoke City will go though tough times and good times. This is a tough time, and it may get even worse, but at some point it will get better and we can challenge again. The annoying thing is we are shitting money |
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 7, 2023 21:24:44 GMT
I suppose the answer to your question is that small/medium sized clubs like Stoke City will go though tough times and good times. This is a tough time, and it may get even worse, but at some point it will get better and we can challenge again. The annoying thing is we are shitting money I know it’s bloody frustrating. We were always going to drop out of the Prem at some stage, but our complete and utter inability to impose ourselves on this crap league we now find ourselves in is shocking really. |
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Post by greenhoff on Oct 7, 2023 21:28:35 GMT
The annoying thing is we are shitting money I know it’s bloody frustrating. We were always going to drop out of the Prem at some stage, but our complete and utter inability to impose ourselves on this crap league we now find ourselves in is shocking really. It's what happens when you appoint crap managers |
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 7, 2023 21:30:11 GMT
I know it’s bloody frustrating. We were always going to drop out of the Prem at some stage, but our complete and utter inability to impose ourselves on this crap league we now find ourselves in is shocking really. It's what happens when you appoint crap managers Yeah it is, the problem is there’s not many good ones around and everyone is looking for them. |
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 7, 2023 21:30:22 GMT
The point is they are our team/club and we support them through thick and thin.
I enjoyed the 70s and had to wait a long time to achieve getting to Wembley for an FA Cup for the first time in over a century and a half and 3 top ten finishes in the Prem.
What goes around, comes around.
My neighbour follows Notts County, there are loads of Wrexham fans not far from North Staffs. They've dropped out of the league altogether and returned.
We have skirted with relegation to the third tier and avoided it. Others haven't like Luton, Sunderland, Sheffield United, Ipswich and look where they are now. There are loads more clubs' fans had a rougher ride than us.
We are doing lousy at the moment, but I think we have actually improved the squad, the players seem to want to try harder than for the last 7 years. The issue is the team is no good, but that can be changed by working at it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 21:38:36 GMT
Just seems like our bad/ tough patch never ends. For some unknown reason we'll carry on following them home and away....... suppose its better than trudging around primark on a Saturday afternoon with the Mrs It’s no different to fans of any club in the country though is it? Some clubs are doing well, others are struggling, and then it all swaps over and changes around. We were the envy of every middle sized club for ten years and now it’s Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford. Let’s see where they are in the next 5 or 10 years. Bournemouth and Brentford aren’t even middling sized clubs. They’re just small clubs who have been run excellently. The frustration of this last 6 years isn’t that we’re back to being a shit 2nd tier club. That’s always a possibility for us. It’s that we have access to resources that dwarf the resources of many clubs that have enjoyed far greater successes. Because we’ve been consistently using our resources inefficiently enough to find ourselves outperformed by the likes of Luton et al. Even Barnsley made the playoffs ffs. The longer this continues the more valid it becomes to question the ownership. Just what use is it to be owned by the family when the net result is a consistently frustrating and miserable experience? |
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Post by Picasso on Oct 7, 2023 22:16:14 GMT
Things tend to be pretty cyclical for most clubs outside the 6 or 7 ‘Big’ clubs.
Luton were in the Conference (or there abouts) when we were at the top table (being run by the same family that runs us now, by the way) and the envy of almost all none ‘Big’ clubs.
It’s already been said but you support your team through thick and thin and I’d say ‘What’s the point’ to only supporting through the thick (not suggesting that’s what you’re doing BlurtonRed, just making the general point). Things will come good again and while we can look at the likes of Bournemouth and Luton above us, currently, we can also look at Derby, Portsmouth etc. below.
Remember, when we went up to the Premier League, Leicester went down to third tier oblivion. What must their fans have thought?
No doubting that we’ve been poor and made mistakes, but stick with them, especially while we have this ridiculous injury list.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 7, 2023 22:19:42 GMT
Things tend to be pretty cyclical for most clubs outside the 6 or 7 ‘Big’ clubs. Luton were in the Conference (or there abouts) when we were at the top table (being run by the same family that runs us now, by the way) and the envy of almost all none ‘Big’ clubs. It’s already been said but you support your team through thick and thin and I’d say ‘What’s the point’ to only supporting through the thick (not suggesting that’s what you’re doing BlurtonRed, just making the general point). Things will come good again and while we can look at the likes of Bournemouth and Luton above us, currently, we can also look at Derby, Portsmouth etc. below. Remember, when we went up to the Premier League, Leicester went down to third tier oblivion. What must their fans have thought? No doubting that we’ve been poor and made mistakes, but stick with them, especially while we have this ridiculous injury list. I think the issue is that not many teams have constant shiteness for 7 years. We are long overdue some enjoyment, it's been pretty bleak. Also, is there any other club in the football league that has been in turmoil for as long as we have despite having the richest owners in their division? Bizarre, it's unbelievable how this club takes all the fun out of it |
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Post by telfordstokie on Oct 7, 2023 22:20:51 GMT
The problem with the post-relegation period is that we’ve changed players and managers multiple times (and spent crazy money doing it) but ended up every time with bottom-half mediocrity. It’s a massively depressing Groundhog Day we can’t seem to get out of.
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Post by Picasso on Oct 7, 2023 22:26:47 GMT
Things tend to be pretty cyclical for most clubs outside the 6 or 7 ‘Big’ clubs. Luton were in the Conference (or there abouts) when we were at the top table (being run by the same family that runs us now, by the way) and the envy of almost all none ‘Big’ clubs. It’s already been said but you support your team through thick and thin and I’d say ‘What’s the point’ to only supporting through the thick (not suggesting that’s what you’re doing BlurtonRed, just making the general point). Things will come good again and while we can look at the likes of Bournemouth and Luton above us, currently, we can also look at Derby, Portsmouth etc. below. Remember, when we went up to the Premier League, Leicester went down to third tier oblivion. What must their fans have thought? No doubting that we’ve been poor and made mistakes, but stick with them, especially while we have this ridiculous injury list. I think the issue is that not many teams have constant shiteness for 7 years. We are long overdue some enjoyment, it's been pretty bleak. Also, is there any other club in the football league that has been in turmoil for as long as we have despite having the richest owners in their division? Bizarre, it's unbelievable how this club takes all the fun out of it It’s not constant shiteness, it’s constant mediocrity and it’s not turmoil, it’s, hmm, I want to put shiteness 🤣…. Yes, we are due some better campaigns! |
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Post by robstokie on Oct 8, 2023 4:56:44 GMT
It's all about being there through the shit times as they are the times that make the (very) rare good times feel so good! Plus, it can be used as a great tool to build character in your lad!
What's the point of being a glory hunter anyway? What kind of joy could a bindipper or a Manure fan get out of getting to Wembley? They are there every other season at worst.
I get it, it's dispiriting at the moment, it's been 7 years of almost constant shit, shit football, shit performances, shit results and shit running of the club. However, I think us football fans are somewhat perverse in that we take some weird pride (that gloryhunters, casual followers and those who dont watch football will never understand) in being present at the lowest points in our history. Just keep the faith, and pray that it will turn around soon.
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Post by emretezzy on Oct 8, 2023 5:27:09 GMT
Just seems like our bad/ tough patch never ends. For some unknown reason we'll carry on following them home and away....... suppose its better than trudging around primark on a Saturday afternoon with the Mrs It’s no different to fans of any club in the country though is it? Some clubs are doing well, others are struggling, and then it all swaps over and changes around. We were the envy of every middle sized club for ten years and now it’s Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford. Let’s see where they are in the next 5 or 10 years. I would honestly say the worst place to be in the football league is an overpaying consistantley shit Championship team. I could always accept the fact we weren't very good, it's just a harder pill to swallow when some of our so called senior players are now on 20k a week plus. |
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Post by scfcnicholas on Oct 8, 2023 5:45:38 GMT
It’s no different to fans of any club in the country though is it? Some clubs are doing well, others are struggling, and then it all swaps over and changes around. We were the envy of every middle sized club for ten years and now it’s Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford. Let’s see where they are in the next 5 or 10 years. Bournemouth and Brentford aren’t even middling sized clubs. They’re just small clubs who have been run excellently. The frustration of this last 6 years isn’t that we’re back to being a shit 2nd tier club. That’s always a possibility for us. It’s that we have access to resources that dwarf the resources of many clubs that have enjoyed far greater successes. Because we’ve been consistently using our resources inefficiently enough to find ourselves outperformed by the likes of Luton et al. Even Barnsley made the playoffs ffs. The longer this continues the more valid it becomes to question the ownership. Just what use is it to be owned by the family when the net result is a consistently frustrating and miserable experience? I don’t see why we should play the fiddle to FFP anymore, we should just fuck it off and ignore it and go out and splurge. Punishment is a drop in the ocean 3 - 6 points deduction compared to the possible gain. Adhering to it is helping create this closed shop of wankey clubs such as Bournemouth/ Burnley bounce and yo yo.( I am aware they spend their parachute resources better however) |
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Post by theonlooker on Oct 8, 2023 6:05:41 GMT
I'm not a demanding fellow. I'd just like a season where we finish above Millwall.
I don't think that's too much to ask of a club owned by the 5th/6th richest owners in the entire pyramid is it?
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 8, 2023 7:21:20 GMT
Things tend to be pretty cyclical for most clubs outside the 6 or 7 ‘Big’ clubs. Luton were in the Conference (or there abouts) when we were at the top table (being run by the same family that runs us now, by the way) and the envy of almost all none ‘Big’ clubs. It’s already been said but you support your team through thick and thin and I’d say ‘What’s the point’ to only supporting through the thick (not suggesting that’s what you’re doing BlurtonRed, just making the general point). Things will come good again and while we can look at the likes of Bournemouth and Luton above us, currently, we can also look at Derby, Portsmouth etc. below. Remember, when we went up to the Premier League, Leicester went down to third tier oblivion. What must their fans have thought? No doubting that we’ve been poor and made mistakes, but stick with them, especially while we have this ridiculous injury list. Being owned by billionaires should insulate you from these cycles to a certain degree though. All the clubs you mention haven't had a pot to piss in. We've got a golden urinal but keep filling it with shite. |
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Post by aureliuspotter on Oct 8, 2023 8:07:44 GMT
I've sat there today and actually thought what the fuck is the point in all this? Why do I put myself, and more importantly my lad through all this absolute heartache, disappointment and frustration. It's absolute torture. Like loads on here I've been doing this shit for years. However now it just feels different. For years we were nothing and going nowhere, I could accept that. I can't see myself being able go through that again. I'm honestly going home and away now for my lad.His first game was the 3-2 Arsenal win, he loves it. He's OK with us being shit (he's young), he's OK with us probably never going win anything. This fucking club are draining the absolute fucking love I've got for it out of me. It's absolutely heart breaking. I sat there Tuesday before the game and watched that pre game video on the big screen and actually had a lump In my throat. How can a club sink so low in six seasons. Its heartbreaking. The blame is at the feet of the owners, they need sort this shit out sharpish I just can't bring myself to give that much of a fuck about it. I stopped having a season ticket about half way through the prem after having one for donkeys years. My interest and passion has been waining over the last ten years or so. I'm at the point now where if we win great, if we lose, oh well. It makes Saturdays so much easier and more pleasant. |
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Post by thisisouryear on Oct 8, 2023 8:24:42 GMT
I've sat there today and actually thought what the fuck is the point in all this? Why do I put myself, and more importantly my lad through all this absolute heartache, disappointment and frustration. It's absolute torture. Like loads on here I've been doing this shit for years. However now it just feels different. For years we were nothing and going nowhere, I could accept that. I can't see myself being able go through that again. I'm honestly going home and away now for my lad.His first game was the 3-2 Arsenal win, he loves it. He's OK with us being shit (he's young), he's OK with us probably never going win anything. This fucking club are draining the absolute fucking love I've got for it out of me. It's absolutely heart breaking. I sat there Tuesday before the game and watched that pre game video on the big screen and actually had a lump In my throat. How can a club sink so low in six seasons. Its heartbreaking. The blame is at the feet of the owners, they need sort this shit out sharpish It's all part and parcel of being a fan. Look at Forest going from being European champions to absolute dogshit for 20 years. Blackburn won the prem and look at them now. Teams like Oldham, Wigan, Portsmouth, Bradford, Swindon, Blackpool, Charlton all been in the prem and look how shit it is for them. At least we have funds behind us to get us back up there and have those good days back again. Many teams who have had those highs are struggling to stay afloat. It's a shit period but that's all it is, eventually the good days will come back again. |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 8, 2023 8:25:49 GMT
Things tend to be pretty cyclical for most clubs outside the 6 or 7 ‘Big’ clubs. Luton were in the Conference (or there abouts) when we were at the top table (being run by the same family that runs us now, by the way) and the envy of almost all none ‘Big’ clubs. It’s already been said but you support your team through thick and thin and I’d say ‘What’s the point’ to only supporting through the thick (not suggesting that’s what you’re doing BlurtonRed, just making the general point). Things will come good again and while we can look at the likes of Bournemouth and Luton above us, currently, we can also look at Derby, Portsmouth etc. below. Remember, when we went up to the Premier League, Leicester went down to third tier oblivion. What must their fans have thought? No doubting that we’ve been poor and made mistakes, but stick with them, especially while we have this ridiculous injury list. I think the issue is that not many teams have constant shiteness for 7 years. We are long overdue some enjoyment, it's been pretty bleak. Also, is there any other club in the football league that has been in turmoil for as long as we have despite having the richest owners in their division? Bizarre, it's unbelievable how this club takes all the fun out of it Don't know about richness but Oldham haven't been promoted in 31 years. It's not all bad when you compare it to them. |
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Post by Linx on Oct 8, 2023 8:39:53 GMT
I can identify completely with the OP, like most of us on here. For the last two seasons, I have tussled with the decision about whether to renew my season ticket, something that I have never questioned during the 17 years or so of having one. Each home game costs me about £50 in fuel and food/drink, adding nearly 3,000 miles a year onto the car, and, increasingly, I’ve come to the realisation that one of the main reasons I keep coming is the journey itself! The four hours there and back, driving how I want to drive, listening to what I want to listen to, without the ‘co-driver’ in the left hand seat constantly policing the journey; it’s a nice bit of quality me-time with a vague purpose called watching Stoke. I suppose that’s why a lot of people like fishing!
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Post by spoton on Oct 8, 2023 9:36:14 GMT
I've sat there today and actually thought what the fuck is the point in all this? Why do I put myself, and more importantly my lad through all this absolute heartache, disappointment and frustration. It's absolute torture. Like loads on here I've been doing this shit for years. However now it just feels different. For years we were nothing and going nowhere, I could accept that. I can't see myself being able go through that again. I'm honestly going home and away now for my lad.His first game was the 3-2 Arsenal win, he loves it. He's OK with us being shit (he's young), he's OK with us probably never going win anything. This fucking club are draining the absolute fucking love I've got for it out of me. It's absolutely heart breaking. I sat there Tuesday before the game and watched that pre game video on the big screen and actually had a lump In my throat. How can a club sink so low in six seasons. Its heartbreaking. The blame is at the feet of the owners, they need sort this shit out sharpish I've spoken to three similar aged fans over the past four days we have followed them in my case 40years but have now all agreed we just don't care anymore its that simple this year was the last straw, over the years we must have spent thousands of pounds and probably as many miles but now the club have lost our support, one even though he has a season ticket just doesn't go anymore, what a sorry place we are in, and all agree we need better leaders and we mean owners who can pick better management |
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Post by Picasso on Oct 8, 2023 10:32:57 GMT
Things tend to be pretty cyclical for most clubs outside the 6 or 7 ‘Big’ clubs. Luton were in the Conference (or there abouts) when we were at the top table (being run by the same family that runs us now, by the way) and the envy of almost all none ‘Big’ clubs. It’s already been said but you support your team through thick and thin and I’d say ‘What’s the point’ to only supporting through the thick (not suggesting that’s what you’re doing BlurtonRed, just making the general point). Things will come good again and while we can look at the likes of Bournemouth and Luton above us, currently, we can also look at Derby, Portsmouth etc. below. Remember, when we went up to the Premier League, Leicester went down to third tier oblivion. What must their fans have thought? No doubting that we’ve been poor and made mistakes, but stick with them, especially while we have this ridiculous injury list. Being owned by billionaires should insulate you from these cycles to a certain degree though. All the clubs you mention haven't had a pot to piss in. We've got a golden urinal but keep filling it with shite. Bournemouth and Leicester have had excellent backing. Derby did, once upon a time, and did very little with it - There’s always going to be the odd Brentford / Luton. Of course we should be doing better with the backing we have. Having billionaire owners is one thing though, but how much they put in is another (they were talking about self sufficiency at one point) - Not suggesting they don’t put enough in, but when people quote the Coates’ wealth, that’s only half a story. We have also been hampered by FFP (we got ourselves into that mess, granted) |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 8, 2023 10:50:48 GMT
I think the issue is that not many teams have constant shiteness for 7 years. We are long overdue some enjoyment, it's been pretty bleak. Also, is there any other club in the football league that has been in turmoil for as long as we have despite having the richest owners in their division? Bizarre, it's unbelievable how this club takes all the fun out of it Don't know about richness but Oldham haven't been promoted in 31 years. It's not all bad when you compare it to them. They've had constant issues with ownership, finance, and have a support of only a couple of thousand |
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