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Post by satoshi on Oct 5, 2023 16:35:45 GMT
What a load of bollocks, great for the environment too😉 Net zero by then, so presumably everyone will be taking electric paddle steamers to South America 👍 not really net zero is a tax scam 😎 |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 5, 2023 16:38:49 GMT
Not a bad deal that in fairness automatic qualification for hosting one game! I'd just love a combined Argentina/Uruguay World Cup so I can tick them both of my bucket list at the same time............ With the increased number of teams and now this, the whole thing makes a bit of a farce of the whole CONMEBOL qualification process. There’s only ten teams in the federation and we’re already on six qualification spots plus a playoff. If they add spots for hosting there’s going to be hardly any point doing the qualifying. Either way those three nations are realistically going to qualify anyway. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 5, 2023 16:42:56 GMT
Not a bad deal that in fairness automatic qualification for hosting one game! I'd just love a combined Argentina/Uruguay World Cup so I can tick them both of my bucket list at the same time............ With the increased number of teams and now this, the whole thing makes a bit of a farce of the whole CONMEBOL qualification process. There’s only ten teams in the federation and we’re already on six qualification spots plus a playoff. If they add spots for hosting there’s going to be hardly any point doing the qualifying. Either way those three nations are realistically going to qualify anyway. Weren't Paraguay one of the whipping boys along with Venezuela in the 2022 qualifiers or have I made that up? |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 5, 2023 16:53:10 GMT
With the increased number of teams and now this, the whole thing makes a bit of a farce of the whole CONMEBOL qualification process. There’s only ten teams in the federation and we’re already on six qualification spots plus a playoff. If they add spots for hosting there’s going to be hardly any point doing the qualifying. Either way those three nations are realistically going to qualify anyway. Weren't Paraguay one of the whipping boys along with Venezuela in the 2022 qualifiers or have I made that up? Yeah I was going to say with the possible exception of Paraguay but even they would normally do enough to get in under the system as it is now. it’s only really Venezuela and Bolivia that are the perennial whipping boys, the rest are all pretty competitive. |
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 5, 2023 16:59:43 GMT
Not a bad deal that in fairness automatic qualification for hosting one game! I'd just love a combined Argentina/Uruguay World Cup so I can tick them both of my bucket list at the same time............ I wonder what kind of welcome would await the English fans and players in Argentina nowadays? Hostile or friendly? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 5, 2023 17:03:56 GMT
Not a bad deal that in fairness automatic qualification for hosting one game! I'd just love a combined Argentina/Uruguay World Cup so I can tick them both of my bucket list at the same time............ I wonder what kind of welcome would await the English fans and players in Argentina nowadays? Hostile or friendly? Football changes the dynamics I guess. Go on holiday and from the people I know who've been it's one of the friendliest places you can visit as a tourist, on a match day it may be different but I could be wrong. But in fairness go to Split, Amsterdam, Munich or wherever and that's usually the case. |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 5, 2023 17:13:39 GMT
Not a bad deal that in fairness automatic qualification for hosting one game! I'd just love a combined Argentina/Uruguay World Cup so I can tick them both of my bucket list at the same time............ I wonder what kind of welcome would await the English fans and players in Argentina nowadays? Hostile or friendly? Plenty songs about the Ingleses out after their World Cup win so I’m doubting it would be friendly |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 5, 2023 17:21:03 GMT
I wonder what kind of welcome would await the English fans and players in Argentina nowadays? Hostile or friendly? Plenty songs about the Ingleses out after their World Cup win so I’m doubting it would be friendly I imagine the police operation on matchdays and if they ever got play each other would be huge. I was lucky enough to be at the Argentina v England last 16 tie at France '98 and I have to say in the main the atmosphere was really friendly between both sets of fans especially considering the significance of it. But I guess a lot of water has passed under the bridge since then especially politically, these things get whipped up more and more.......... |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 5, 2023 17:26:39 GMT
Plenty songs about the Ingleses out after their World Cup win so I’m doubting it would be friendly I imagine the police operation on matchdays and if they ever got play each other would be huge. I was lucky enough to be at the Argentina v England last 16 tie at France '98 and I have to say in the main the atmosphere was really friendly between both sets of fans especially considering the significance of it. But I guess a lot of water has passed under the bridge since then especially politically, these things get whipped up more and more.......... Like anything, on a sensible interpersonal level people are generally agreeable. I went wandering about in my England shirt among some celebrating Argies when they won, plenty anttention but all good banter. On a crowd/stadium level though, with England on their own patch…….. |
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 31, 2023 23:44:08 GMT
Australia drop out of the 2034 race leaving Saudi Arabia as the only remaining nation. Looks like another winter World Cup.
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 1, 2023 5:24:56 GMT
The time is arriving. There's plenty of time to get ducks in a row. Imagine the shock waves across the world if Uefa and Conmebol didn't enter 2034 and formed a new global administration body. Concacaf will have to pick sides. It wouldn't be worth asking Afcon.
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 1, 2023 6:28:34 GMT
Australia drop out of the 2034 race leaving Saudi Arabia as the only remaining nation. Looks like another winter World Cup. Infanti and the other scum FIFA delegates are the real winners here. Saudi gets even more sportswashed and their new mega city gets free advertorials from every media organisation on the world. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 1, 2023 7:47:10 GMT
Why not?
Travel is so easy today and a good idea
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 1, 2023 8:24:25 GMT
...pretty much every fkin where. Spain Portugal Morocco But with the first three games in South America as a nod to the centenary of the 1st WC in Uruguay: Uruguay Argentina Paraguay www.bbc.com/sport/football/67010609All seems a bit contrived, but nice that the main bit is in Europe The best World Cups are in Europe. In my lifetime Spain 82, Italy 90 and Russia were my top 3. Europe has the best infrastructure and history of the game. Something that the middle east don’t have. I think 2030 could be a belter. Might even give it a go in what will be my 60th year. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 1, 2023 8:33:14 GMT
...pretty much every fkin where. Spain Portugal Morocco But with the first three games in South America as a nod to the centenary of the 1st WC in Uruguay: Uruguay Argentina Paraguay www.bbc.com/sport/football/67010609All seems a bit contrived, but nice that the main bit is in Europe The best World Cups are in Europe. In my lifetime Spain 82, Italy 90 and Russia were my top 3. Europe has the best infrastructure and history of the game. Something that the middle east don’t have. I think 2030 could be a belter. Might even give it a go in what will be my 60th year. USA 94 was a good tournament apart from the final 2002 was quite good too |
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 1, 2023 8:35:21 GMT
Why not? Travel is so easy today and a good idea Just plant a few trees and it will be fine! |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 1, 2023 8:37:08 GMT
The best World Cups are in Europe. In my lifetime Spain 82, Italy 90 and Russia were my top 3. Europe has the best infrastructure and history of the game. Something that the middle east don’t have. I think 2030 could be a belter. Might even give it a go in what will be my 60th year. USA 94 was a good tournament apart from the final 2002 was quite good too Was at the USA 84 and Italy 90. USA was a far better tournament, 90 was pretty poor. Both finals weren't up to much 82 was a great tournament, best have seen. |
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Post by werrington on Nov 1, 2023 8:44:07 GMT
The best World Cups are in Europe. In my lifetime Spain 82, Italy 90 and Russia were my top 3. Europe has the best infrastructure and history of the game. Something that the middle east don’t have. I think 2030 could be a belter. Might even give it a go in what will be my 60th year. USA 94 was a good tournament apart from the final 2002 was quite good too People seem to be forgetting the Brazil 2014 tournament Forget England as we were awful but the tournament itself finally saw teams start to attack and try and win matches rather than Germany 2006 and SA 2010 which stank the place out The last 3 in Brazil Russia and Qatar have been a treat to watch |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 1, 2023 8:59:06 GMT
Bit disappointed that the whole thing isn't in Arg/Uruguay. Should have definitely been mate. The atmosphere over there would have been something else would have love to have gone over for any match. |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Nov 1, 2023 9:13:45 GMT
Bit disappointed that the whole thing isn't in Arg/Uruguay. Should have definitely been mate. The atmosphere over there would have been something else would have love to have gone over for any match. I think money and infrastructure probably stopped that. Modern World Cups are huge events, even bigger now that FIFA have expanded the tournament. The amount of construction work that would need to be done would cost a fortune. And with inflationary pressures and energy costs not looking like they will go away any time soon, I don't think it would have been affordable for them to do it. And too much of a risk for FIFA to agree to. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 1, 2023 9:26:01 GMT
No doubt it will be the (cough) 'greenest' World Cup ever staged however! Don't really buy the environment thing myself as I doubt people will travel more tham usual, from one continent to another. Unless they're absolutely loaded. Of course you get the 'follow your team' option but that's ridiculously overpriced already. I'm not sure many will bother with that plus the travel costs for this one. When it's spread out like this I think the majority of people will simply pick a country and apply for a few games there. Traveling as little as possible. Well, that's how I tend to do it. The teams will hopefully play all their group games in close proximity. Though not sure how that will work with Spain/Portugal and then Morocco in the later rounds. But doesn't that go against what the World Cup should be - a coming together of teams and fans from around the world, different cultures and styles of football from around the world. To me it is another example of television replacing real life fan engagement. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 1, 2023 9:26:07 GMT
Why not? Travel is so easy today and a good idea Because you'll have Dorks dressed in hiviz orange polyester (made from oil) calling in support on mobile phones (made from oil) superglueing (non oil) themselves to your driveway. Thus preventing Mrs McMuffin from attending her WI Pilates class and raining down on your ass such vengeance that would make Jules Winnfield look like Bambi on ice. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 1, 2023 9:55:21 GMT
Why not? Travel is so easy today and a good idea Because you'll have Dorks dressed in hiviz orange polyester (made from oil) calling in support on mobile phones (made from oil) superglueing (non oil) themselves to your driveway. Thus preventing Mrs McMuffin from attending her WI Pilates class and raining down on your ass such vengeance that would make Jules Winnfield look like Bambi on ice. Trust me...No one can dish out vengeance like the female McMuffin. Slowing down for protestors would not be in her locker ...in fact mowing down someone who dares touch her paintwork would be more her style She would have been the ideal navigator to Frankenstein in Death Race 2000 |
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Post by Eggybread on Nov 1, 2023 14:55:34 GMT
The Saudis have the world cup in 2034. Utterly pathetic and predictable .The world we live in is just fucked.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Nov 1, 2023 14:58:39 GMT
Not a bad deal that in fairness automatic qualification for hosting one game! I'd just love a combined Argentina/Uruguay World Cup so I can tick them both of my bucket list at the same time............ Been to both Great countries. Still have Colombia on mine to tick off |
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Post by werrington on Nov 1, 2023 15:17:32 GMT
It’s amazing how when it’s football going to Saudi then all the morals police come out to voice their disapproval
But when it’s boxing, motor racing, golf etc nobody seems to have a view on it or give a fuck
Strange that and I’ll dare bet many who are voicing their disapproval tune into all those events and even pay the POV fees
Anyway we’ve been here before
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 1, 2023 15:25:17 GMT
It’s amazing how when it’s football going to Saudi then all the morals police come out to voice their disapproval But when it’s boxing, motor racing, golf etc nobody seems to have a view on it or give a fuck Strange that and I’ll dare bet many who are voicing their disapproval tune into all those events and even pay the POV fees Anyway we’ve been here before I wouldn't watch any one of those events (including football) in Saudi Arabia personally. But each to their own................... |
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Post by werrington on Nov 1, 2023 15:26:24 GMT
It’s amazing how when it’s football going to Saudi then all the morals police come out to voice their disapproval But when it’s boxing, motor racing, golf etc nobody seems to have a view on it or give a fuck Strange that and I’ll dare bet many who are voicing their disapproval tune into all those events and even pay the POV fees Anyway we’ve been here before I wouldn't watch any one of those events (including football) in Saudi Arabia personally. But each to their own................... I’m on about the hypocrisy mate |
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Post by upthefud on Nov 1, 2023 18:35:44 GMT
It’s amazing how when it’s football going to Saudi then all the morals police come out to voice their disapproval But when it’s boxing, motor racing, golf etc nobody seems to have a view on it or give a fuck Strange that and I’ll dare bet many who are voicing their disapproval tune into all those events and even pay the POV fees Anyway we’ve been here before Are you joking? I’ll give you boxing but it literally tore golf apart, don’t know about motor racing. Anyway, this is a football message board, I don’t really give two shits about any of those sports. Once again football has been bought like in Qatar, and once again we’re off to a country with awful human rights issues as we watch football be involved in sports washing. Tbf I’m not anywhere near as angry as the decision to give it to Qatar as at least Saudi do have footballing history and have qualified for tournaments before. Fifa wrangling the 2030 WC to pretty much let Saudi do what they want is pathetic though. Won’t be long till Saudi teams play in the CL as UEFA aren’t immune to being bought. |
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Post by misterj on Nov 2, 2023 11:08:00 GMT
With technology so advanced now as well as ….erm …. Democracy(??) I feel that fifa could ask all & every signed up, membership-only football fan globally where would they like the 2034 WC to be held (apart from their own country) and I can guarantee that 99% + would NOT choose Saudi Arabia!!
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