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Post by elystokie on Apr 25, 2024 19:53:29 GMT
How does the money get determined? The bigger the cunt you are, the more you get fined. 😅 In that case it should have been £900k minimum 😀
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 25, 2024 19:54:05 GMT
It's not a fine. It's an award of damages in a civil libel case. How does the money get determined? M'lud's will look to arrive at a level of compensation for the damage to the plaintiffs reputation, vindication of their good name and will take account of the distress and humiliation which the publication (in the case of libel) has caused. To some degree it will therefore be individual to each case. I'm afraid I don't know enough about the people being compensated (beyond the headlines) to have a view on whether this particular award is "the going rate" or not. Remains to be seen if Fox appeals - he may be successful in reducing the compensation but just run up additional legal bills in the process
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 25, 2024 19:57:09 GMT
How does the money get determined? M'lud's will look to arrive at a level of compensation for the damage to the plaintiffs reputation, vindication of their good name and will take account of the distress and humiliation which the publication (in the case of libel) has caused. To some degree it will therefore be individual to each case. I'm afraid I don't know enough about the people being compensated (beyond the headlines) to have a view on whether this particular award is "the going rate" or not. Remains to be seen if Fox appeals - he may be successful in reducing the compensation but just run up additional legal bills in the process I’m not angry, just disappointed
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Post by metalhead on Apr 25, 2024 20:06:44 GMT
This. Pretty much. He does far more damage to the causes he supports than his supporters realise. If i was supporting some kind of semi-pseudo movement and Laurence Fox rocked up, I'd head back to the car, fuck off home and find something else to get behind, because you might as well assume that it's already dead and buried.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 25, 2024 20:14:40 GMT
This. Pretty much. He does far more damage to the causes he supports than his supporters realise. If i was supporting some kind of semi-pseudo movement and Laurence Fox rocked up, I'd head back to the car, fuck off home and find something else to get behind, because you might as well assume that it's already dead and buried. You’re so right. He thinks that a bit of swearing and bullying behaviour will turn him into some sort of poster boy for the right. What he doesn’t realise is that the vast majority of people he’s trying to impress think he’s a pillock.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 25, 2024 20:20:01 GMT
This. Pretty much. He does far more damage to the causes he supports than his supporters realise. If i was supporting some kind of semi-pseudo movement and Laurence Fox rocked up, I'd head back to the car, fuck off home and find something else to get behind, because you might as well assume that it's already dead and buried. You’re so right. He thinks that a bit of swearing and bullying behaviour will turn him into some sort of poster boy for the right. What he doesn’t realise is that the vast majority of people he’s trying to impress think he’s a pillock. He’s got a touch of the Joey Barton’s about him. Got a following and went extreme. As you say, he’s a knob. Clearly got a brain but refuses to use it by shutting the fuck up.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 25, 2024 20:33:29 GMT
You’re so right. He thinks that a bit of swearing and bullying behaviour will turn him into some sort of poster boy for the right. What he doesn’t realise is that the vast majority of people he’s trying to impress think he’s a pillock. He’s got a touch of the Joey Barton’s about him. Got a following and went extreme. As you say, he’s a knob. Clearly got a brain but refuses to use it by shutting the fuck up. Everything about him screams 'loser" these days. Which is not a good look whatever brand of politics you're looking to promote.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 25, 2024 20:47:04 GMT
He’s got a touch of the Joey Barton’s about him. Got a following and went extreme. As you say, he’s a knob. Clearly got a brain but refuses to use it by shutting the fuck up. Everything about him screams 'loser" these days. Which is not a good look whatever brand of politics you're looking to promote. Absolutely. He seems to jump from one calamity to the next. Anything he touches turns to shit.
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Post by wannabee on Apr 25, 2024 21:04:55 GMT
It's not a fine. It's an award of damages in a civil libel case. How does the money get determined? Pretty much as Seymour said based on the damage to reputation if they have a reputation I.e. reasonably well known by the person causing the libel and those on the receiving end. Nobodies need not apply. To demonstrate Lozza's Knobness he deleted the Tweet pretty quickly, reducing livability When it got to Court he apologised for the Tweet. He then while waiting for the Judge to determine compensation he continued to Tweet how unfair it all was The Judge referred to this in his decision and told Lozza if he persisted it would be a Contempt of Court (invalidating his apology) which could mean Gaol Time. The Plaintiffs Lawyers asked for a 6 Figure sum, Lozza's Lawyers said it should be in the £10,000 - 20,000 Range. I expect he pissed off the Judge so much he tended towards the higher.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 25, 2024 21:08:59 GMT
He’s got a touch of the Joey Barton’s about him. Got a following and went extreme. As you say, he’s a knob. Clearly got a brain but refuses to use it by shutting the fuck up. Everything about him screams 'loser" these days. Which is not a good look whatever brand of politics you're looking to promote. Aye, he should have just stuck to acting. He was orate in Morse or whatever it was called. I bet his family rip the piss out of him at sundee luncheon 😆
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 25, 2024 21:10:13 GMT
How does the money get determined? Pretty much as Seymour said based on the damage to reputation if they have a reputation I.e. reasonably well known by the person causing the libel and those on the receiving end. Nobodies need not apply. To demonstrate Lozza's Knobness he deleted the Tweet pretty quickly, reducing livability When it got to Court he apologised for the Tweet. He then while waiting for the Judge to determine compensation he continued to Tweet how unfair it all was The Judge referred to this in his decision and told Lozza if he persisted it would be a Contempt of Court (invalidating his apology) which could mean Gaol Time. The Plaintiffs Lawyers asked for a 6 Figure sum, Lozza's Lawyers said it should be in the £10,000 - 20,000 Range. I expect he pissed off the Judge so much he tended towards the higher. Interesting. The price of insulting a drag Queen has really escalated lately.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Apr 25, 2024 21:24:22 GMT
Everything about him screams 'loser" these days. Which is not a good look whatever brand of politics you're looking to promote. Aye, he should have just stuck to acting. He was orate in Morse or whatever it was called. I bet his family rip the piss out of him at sundee luncheon 😆 It was Lewis wasn't it mate? He was Lewis's right hand man. Pretty good that was in it's day.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 25, 2024 21:26:58 GMT
Aye, he should have just stuck to acting. He was orate in Morse or whatever it was called. I bet his family rip the piss out of him at sundee luncheon 😆 It was Lewis wasn't it mate? He was Lewis's right hand man. Pretty good that was in it's day. Oh yeah Lewis was morses side kick originally. So eventually the daft twat would have had the lead role and a show named after him. Instead he went down a rabbit hole. Silly...
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Post by wannabee on Apr 25, 2024 21:30:56 GMT
Pretty much as Seymour said based on the damage to reputation if they have a reputation I.e. reasonably well known by the person causing the libel and those on the receiving end. Nobodies need not apply. To demonstrate Lozza's Knobness he deleted the Tweet pretty quickly, reducing livability When it got to Court he apologised for the Tweet. He then while waiting for the Judge to determine compensation he continued to Tweet how unfair it all was The Judge referred to this in his decision and told Lozza if he persisted it would be a Contempt of Court (invalidating his apology) which could mean Gaol Time. The Plaintiffs Lawyers asked for a 6 Figure sum, Lozza's Lawyers said it should be in the £10,000 - 20,000 Range. I expect he pissed off the Judge so much he tended towards the higher. Interesting. The price of insulting a drag Queen has really escalated lately. To be fair I'd never heard of either Bizarrely it was a spat about BLM that provoked Lozza's Tweet At least it may stop people stupidly conflating Paedophiles with Homosexuality and Transgenderism
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Apr 25, 2024 21:33:51 GMT
It was Lewis wasn't it mate? He was Lewis's right hand man. Pretty good that was in it's day. Oh yeah Lewis was morses side kick originally. So eventually the daft twat would have had the lead role and a show named after him. Instead he went down a rabbit hole. Silly... Ah he could have had it all. Saying that he was a shite detective so not sure he'd have got the lead role. I guess we'll never know.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 25, 2024 21:40:38 GMT
Interesting. The price of insulting a drag Queen has really escalated lately. To be fair I'd never heard of either Bizarrely it was a spat about BLM that provoked Lozza's Tweet At least it may stop people stupidly conflating Paedophiles with Homosexuality and Transgenderism BLM? What an odd thing to be arguing about😉 I’d love to see how they’re getting on these days, bunch of racists
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Apr 26, 2024 11:17:55 GMT
Aye, he should have just stuck to acting. He was orate in Morse or whatever it was called. I bet his family rip the piss out of him at sundee luncheon 😆 It was Lewis wasn't it mate? He was Lewis's right hand man. Pretty good that was in it's day. I always thought his acting in Lewis was crap. As he was playing an extremely intelligent individual his behaviour in recent years helps demonstrate why he would find it so difficult.
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Post by gawa on Apr 26, 2024 11:24:42 GMT
Pretty much as Seymour said based on the damage to reputation if they have a reputation I.e. reasonably well known by the person causing the libel and those on the receiving end. Nobodies need not apply. To demonstrate Lozza's Knobness he deleted the Tweet pretty quickly, reducing livability When it got to Court he apologised for the Tweet. He then while waiting for the Judge to determine compensation he continued to Tweet how unfair it all was The Judge referred to this in his decision and told Lozza if he persisted it would be a Contempt of Court (invalidating his apology) which could mean Gaol Time. The Plaintiffs Lawyers asked for a 6 Figure sum, Lozza's Lawyers said it should be in the £10,000 - 20,000 Range. I expect he pissed off the Judge so much he tended towards the higher. Interesting. The price of insulting a drag Queen has really escalated lately. That's inflation for you mate. I've opened up an ISA to save up so I can insult one in my 60s. Lifetime ambition of mine.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Apr 27, 2024 19:02:25 GMT
Interesting. The price of insulting a drag Queen has really escalated lately. That's inflation for you mate. I've opened up an ISA to save up so I can insult one in my 60s. Lifetime ambition of mine. You can insult one for free. It's if you defame one that you might run into trouble.
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