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Post by stokeuk474 on Sept 25, 2023 8:08:27 GMT
Charlie Adam
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 25, 2023 8:13:51 GMT
Chuck Ralph Hassenhuttl and Scott Parker on the list Can't see Hassenhutel taking a Championship job tbh Parker might He's quite dislikable but two promotions with different clubs from this league If he wanted it would be a strong candidate Hasenhüttl's time at Southampton was actually quite unspectacular, not to mention overseeing not one but two 9-0 defeats! Most of their supporters would agree he should have left long before he did. Parker only seems to do well with parachute clubs - he failed in Belgium - and his tendency to wind up the Board if he's not getting his way won't go own well with the Coates.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Sept 25, 2023 8:15:51 GMT
Potter aside ( who’d never come) the list of those out of work ain’t great. Need a manager who would get a tune out of this squad. As to who- I really don’t know. To be honest this is getting tiresome. Every year scraping around looking for the answer. We have again signed an unbalanced squad with too many flair players and not a single quality centre back or striker. That said - firmly believe someone could get the best out them and do so by deciding on a system and sticking with it! How do you get players gelling/ playing how u want when you swap the tactics / set up weekly?! Its called allowing the club to form an identity. The club should be able to create an environment at the club that allows a manager to set that identity up. For all the vitriol that accompanied him at least Pulis and the club gave us a proper identity. It even coined a phrase that went Europe wide. But can they do it on a cold and wet Wednesday night in the Potteries. I for one miss those days. People knew who we were. Nowadays we're just a total basket case. I mean how do we even describe our current identity. You can't cos there isn't one. And I blame the top brass for that mostly. They have no sustainable strategy.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 25, 2023 8:24:16 GMT
Can't see Hassenhutel taking a Championship job tbh Parker might He's quite dislikable but two promotions with different clubs from this league If he wanted it would be a strong candidate Hasenhüttl's time at Southampton was actually quite unspectacular, not to mention overseeing not one but two 9-0 defeats! Most of their supporters would agree he should have left long before he did. Parker only seems to do well with parachute clubs - he failed in Belgium - and his tendency to wind up the Board if he's not getting his way won't go own well with the Coates. RH did a good job there at first, it just went sour in the end like all managerial reigns do at some point. Parker is a charlatan, wouldn't want him anywhere near here.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 25, 2023 9:12:14 GMT
If AN goes,I have no idea who we should get in,I just know we have to get away from the same old British managers,there must be some good foreign managers out there who would jump at the chance,you would think so anyway.
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 25, 2023 9:33:46 GMT
Who’s the next Kieran McKenna or Enzo Maresca? We should be looking at the best young coaches out there, sick and tired of the “tried and tested” and the dour shite they bring with them. Brian Barry-Murphy's done a good job with City's U23s, but it's probably best for these up-and-coming coaches' development to be cutting their teeth in League One rather than the Championship. McKenna and Neil Critchley started their journeys this way with Ipswich and Blackpool respectively. Granted, Corberan has forged an excellent reputation jumping straight into the Championship from Premier League U23s, but that's because he was also dual-working as a coach for the first team at Leeds before getting his job at 'Udders.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 9:35:16 GMT
Would quite like someone from the Bundesliga/Bundesliga 2 to be honest. Find the next Wagner, Farke, Hassenhutl etc.
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Post by chayseeoatcake on Sept 25, 2023 9:45:19 GMT
Mark Van Bommell mentioned on Twitter/X
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 25, 2023 9:48:03 GMT
Mark Van Bommell mentioned on Twitter/X Royal Antwerp have made the group stages of the Champions League we'd have absolutely no chance.............
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 25, 2023 10:19:06 GMT
Hasenhüttl's time at Southampton was actually quite unspectacular, not to mention overseeing not one but two 9-0 defeats! Most of their supporters would agree he should have left long before he did. Parker only seems to do well with parachute clubs - he failed in Belgium - and his tendency to wind up the Board if he's not getting his way won't go own well with the Coates. RH did a good job there at first, it just went sour in the end like all managerial reigns do at some point. Parker is a charlatan, wouldn't want him anywhere near here. Ralph is a manager who performs in peaks and troughs. Had a disastrous start to his first full season in charge, with a better second half. Again started the next season very poorly, with a mid-season purple patch, then finished off in relegation form. His final season saw him sacked by November. I just don't think we should be entertaining someone with that kind of patchy track record. We need someone who can grab the bull by the horns and properly harness the potential of our talented squad. Completely with you on Parker.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 25, 2023 10:35:28 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 25, 2023 10:36:10 GMT
RH did a good job there at first, it just went sour in the end like all managerial reigns do at some point. Parker is a charlatan, wouldn't want him anywhere near here. Ralph is a manager who performs in peaks and troughs. Had a disastrous start to his first full season in charge, with a better second half. Again started the next season very poorly, with a mid-season purple patch, then finished off in relegation form. His final season saw him sacked by November. I just don't think we should be entertaining someone with that kind of patchy track record. We need someone who can grab the bull by the horns and properly harness the potential of our talented squad. Completely with you on Parker. Foreign too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 10:56:08 GMT
Despite the glaring omissions in our squad (CB, LB & Goal scorer) I still believe we've signed some very good players and a decent coach should have more than enough to work with to get us safely to January.
I hoped Neil was that man but he obviously isn't. Yesterday's team selection was the final straw for me. Mark Robins more than got a tune out of McNally, in fact, his stats were about the best in the division last season.
Wilmot has a mistake in him but I don't think he's a lost cause. He had several chances to put the ball in the stand for their first goal but tried to keep it in play and allowed Bidace to nick it away and set up the goal. He would only have done that once under Pulis.
There is a time and place to try and play and it's not when you've got a quick winger breathing down your neck. Neil should have made that clear in no uncertain terms because it's not the first time let's be honest.
We need a top quality modern coach. The game is moving on quickly and we need to get with the times.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2023 11:06:24 GMT
www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistikLooking at transfermarkt's unemployed list.......Smith, Wilder, Parker, Hassenhuttl, Gracia, Marsch, Sanchez Flores, Van Bronckhorst Maybe we'd have a slim chance of getting Corberan (supposedly £2m release clause) if he fancied departing that unstable mess, but unlikely? John Terry always gets a mention. As does Rooney, despite his record. Lampard has used up all his lives. There don't seem to be any L1/L2 candidates who are banging the door down at the moment So that really leaves foreign in-work candidates. Dunno which leagues are potential target-rich environments for us? Switzerland? Belgium? Portugal? Holland? German Div 2? France Div 2? Scandinavia? Would imagine that's a bit of a minefield unless you know what you're doing..... and we have no track record of knowing what we're doing.
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Post by stokie1947 on Sept 25, 2023 11:10:11 GMT
John Mousinho
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 25, 2023 11:10:45 GMT
www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistikLooking at transfermarkt's unemployed list.......Smith, Wilder, Parker, Hassenhuttl, Gracia, Marsch, Sanchez Flores, Van Bronckhorst Maybe we'd have a slim chance of getting Corberan (supposedly £2m release clause) if he fancied departing that unstable mess, but unlikely? John Terry always gets a mention. As does Rooney, despite his record. Lampard has used up all his lives. There don't seem to be any L1/L2 candidates who are banging the door down at the moment So that really leaves foreign in-work candidates. Dunno which leagues are potential target-rich environments for us? Switzerland? Belgium? Portugal? Holland? German Div 2? France Div 2? Scandinavia? Would imagine that's a bit of a minefield unless you know what you're doing..... and we have no track record of knowing what we're doing. I bet Marsch would be superb here. We have the type of player he wants. Go get him stoke
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 25, 2023 11:14:30 GMT
www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistikLooking at transfermarkt's unemployed list.......Smith, Wilder, Parker, Hassenhuttl, Gracia, Marsch, Sanchez Flores, Van Bronckhorst Maybe we'd have a slim chance of getting Corberan (supposedly £2m release clause) if he fancied departing that unstable mess, but unlikely? John Terry always gets a mention. As does Rooney, despite his record. Lampard has used up all his lives. There don't seem to be any L1/L2 candidates who are banging the door down at the moment So that really leaves foreign in-work candidates. Dunno which leagues are potential target-rich environments for us? Switzerland? Belgium? Portugal? Holland? German Div 2? France Div 2? Scandinavia? Would imagine that's a bit of a minefield unless you know what you're doing..... and we have no track record of knowing what we're doing. I bet Marsch would be superb here. We have the type of player he wants. Go get him stoke Wasn't his biggest problem at Leeds the fact he was playing dull, direct football and so not getting the best out of the footballers he did have? That's the opposite of what we need. You'd suggest we'd need to look abroad (or a foreign manager at least) to get the best out the squad we've got. Can you imagine someone like Wilder rocking up and managing this? Sounds like an absolute nightmare. Probably another reason why you can't see us pulling the trigger that fast. The list of potential managers seems to worsen every time we're in this position.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 25, 2023 11:17:26 GMT
I bet Marsch would be superb here. We have the type of player he wants. Go get him stoke Wasn't his biggest problem at Leeds the fact he was playing dull, direct football and so not getting the best out of the footballers he did have? That's the opposite of what we need. You'd suggest we'd need to look abroad (or a foreign manager at least) to get the best out the squad we've got. Can you imagine someone like Wilder rocking up and managing this? Sounds like an absolute nightmare. Probably another reason why you can't see us pulling the trigger that fast. The list of potential managers seems to worsen every time we're in this position. Marsch had a really tough job at Leeds with very little to work with but my view is that he had a strong emphasis on fitness and pressing high, and discipline. I felt he was very unlucky there. I didn't think they were overly direct when I saw them them. I just have a gut feeling he would do really well here, he's an intelligent guy and determined.
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Post by idle on Sept 25, 2023 11:29:53 GMT
www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistikLooking at transfermarkt's unemployed list.......Smith, Wilder, Parker, Hassenhuttl, Gracia, Marsch, Sanchez Flores, Van Bronckhorst Maybe we'd have a slim chance of getting Corberan (supposedly £2m release clause) if he fancied departing that unstable mess, but unlikely? John Terry always gets a mention. As does Rooney, despite his record. Lampard has used up all his lives. There don't seem to be any L1/L2 candidates who are banging the door down at the moment So that really leaves foreign in-work candidates. Dunno which leagues are potential target-rich environments for us? Switzerland? Belgium? Portugal? Holland? German Div 2? France Div 2? Scandinavia? Would imagine that's a bit of a minefield unless you know what you're doing..... and we have no track record of knowing what we're doing. In Scandinavia there's only Kjetil Knutsen of Bodø/Glimt. He's a bit of a wanker though, and waaayyy out of our league. And maybe Per Mathias Høgmo of BK Häcken, who'll never be accepted as he reads fucking poetry in the dressing room, or Martí Cifuentes from Hammarby who took them from bottom half to European qualification in 6 months.
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Post by adamsson on Sept 25, 2023 11:50:38 GMT
We all know it's going to Neil Warnock
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 25, 2023 11:55:45 GMT
My top 3 last year after MON’s departure were:
Carrick McKenna Maresca
Maresca and Carrick would’ve definitely been getable at the time, McKenna seems like he wants to see Ipswich through though.
This time around I’m not sure who is out there, it’s time now to go and get a Pep protege though or look further afield to Germany etc.
Hopefully Jared’s black book contains a list of managers who play a pressing 433 and won’t fall in to the 3-5-2 trap.
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 25, 2023 12:00:06 GMT
www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistikLooking at transfermarkt's unemployed list.......Smith, Wilder, Parker, Hassenhuttl, Gracia, Marsch, Sanchez Flores, Van Bronckhorst Maybe we'd have a slim chance of getting Corberan (supposedly £2m release clause) if he fancied departing that unstable mess, but unlikely? John Terry always gets a mention. As does Rooney, despite his record. Lampard has used up all his lives. There don't seem to be any L1/L2 candidates who are banging the door down at the moment So that really leaves foreign in-work candidates. Dunno which leagues are potential target-rich environments for us? Switzerland? Belgium? Portugal? Holland? German Div 2? France Div 2? Scandinavia? Would imagine that's a bit of a minefield unless you know what you're doing..... and we have no track record of knowing what we're doing. Schumacher at Plymouth could be a shout. Sure someone on here is good friends with him too?
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Post by thornestein on Sept 25, 2023 12:01:37 GMT
Wasn't his biggest problem at Leeds the fact he was playing dull, direct football and so not getting the best out of the footballers he did have? That's the opposite of what we need. You'd suggest we'd need to look abroad (or a foreign manager at least) to get the best out the squad we've got. Can you imagine someone like Wilder rocking up and managing this? Sounds like an absolute nightmare. Probably another reason why you can't see us pulling the trigger that fast. The list of potential managers seems to worsen every time we're in this position. Marsch had a really tough job at Leeds with very little to work with but my view is that he had a strong emphasis on fitness and pressing high, and discipline. I felt he was very unlucky there. I didn't think they were overly direct when I saw them them. I just have a gut feeling he would do really well here, he's an intelligent guy and determined. they were very direct with him in charge
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Sept 25, 2023 12:02:45 GMT
We all know it's going to Neil Warnock Might explain the apparent softening up in his attitude towards us....
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 25, 2023 12:05:32 GMT
What’s Carl Hoefkens up to now
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2023 12:06:59 GMT
www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistikLooking at transfermarkt's unemployed list.......Smith, Wilder, Parker, Hassenhuttl, Gracia, Marsch, Sanchez Flores, Van Bronckhorst Maybe we'd have a slim chance of getting Corberan (supposedly £2m release clause) if he fancied departing that unstable mess, but unlikely? John Terry always gets a mention. As does Rooney, despite his record. Lampard has used up all his lives. There don't seem to be any L1/L2 candidates who are banging the door down at the moment So that really leaves foreign in-work candidates. Dunno which leagues are potential target-rich environments for us? Switzerland? Belgium? Portugal? Holland? German Div 2? France Div 2? Scandinavia? Would imagine that's a bit of a minefield unless you know what you're doing..... and we have no track record of knowing what we're doing. Schumacher at Plymouth could be a shout. Sure someone on here is good friends with him too? Yeah, maybe one of the very few Champ managers we'd stand a chance of poaching. Don't know about his contract situation though, or if he's done enough yet
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 25, 2023 12:07:12 GMT
What’s Carl Hoefkens up to now Head Coach at Standard Liege. He was the first person I thought of........
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2023 12:08:46 GMT
What’s Carl Hoefkens up to now Head Coach at Standard Liege. He was the first person I thought of........ And doing very badly too. Small sample size though. And they are one of the clubs in distress hoovered up by the chancers buying Everton. Fans in open revolt against them, so maybe not one to judge him too harshly on
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Post by LGH87 on Sept 25, 2023 12:17:42 GMT
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 25, 2023 12:29:20 GMT
www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistikLooking at transfermarkt's unemployed list.......Smith, Wilder, Parker, Hassenhuttl, Gracia, Marsch, Sanchez Flores, Van Bronckhorst Maybe we'd have a slim chance of getting Corberan (supposedly £2m release clause) if he fancied departing that unstable mess, but unlikely? John Terry always gets a mention. As does Rooney, despite his record. Lampard has used up all his lives. There don't seem to be any L1/L2 candidates who are banging the door down at the moment So that really leaves foreign in-work candidates. Dunno which leagues are potential target-rich environments for us? Switzerland? Belgium? Portugal? Holland? German Div 2? France Div 2? Scandinavia? Would imagine that's a bit of a minefield unless you know what you're doing..... and we have no track record of knowing what we're doing. Schumacher at Plymouth could be a shout. Sure someone on here is good friends with him too? Think it's too soon for him. He was another three-at-the-back merchant last season, and though he's become more of a four-at-the-back man this season I think he'd need more time for suitors to observe how he performs with a change of style.
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