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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 21, 2023 18:29:10 GMT
Am I the wokiest of them all then? You went beyond woke into the 'Extreme Snowflake' category mate. I wonder were Huddys “dot” would end up. Off the chart I’d imagine
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Post by foster on Sept 21, 2023 18:30:01 GMT
You went beyond woke into the 'Extreme Snowflake' category mate. I really wish the lefties would allow me to reintroduce my penchant for using the word on here. Life would be so much easier. But I’m nothing if not a man of my word😉 You do realise that you're also a lefty mate?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 21, 2023 18:32:16 GMT
I really wish the lefties would allow me to reintroduce my penchant for using the word on here. Life would be so much easier. But I’m nothing if not a man of my word😉 You do realise that you're also a lefty mate? How on earth do you get on the right side? You’d have to be in the National Front to stand a chance!
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Post by foster on Sept 21, 2023 18:33:17 GMT
Economic Left/Right: 0.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.1 The questions are badly designed. An example: The first responsibility of a mother is to be a home maker? Well I agree with that, but I also think making a stable home for children is the first responsibility of FATHERS, as well. So the answer ‘agree’, which would presumably place me on the right, is actually a bit more nuanced. Didn't really get the overly used link between authoritarian and religion either. If you're not religious you'll say no to all those questions, which moves you down and to the left I presume. But as Captain Wokey says, it's all a bit of fun.
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Post by gawa on Sept 21, 2023 18:39:08 GMT
Am I the wokiest of them all then? Economic Left/Right: 1.0 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.31 Does that mean I'm a lefty? Means you're somewhere between Mr blobby and Sam Smith.
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Post by swampmongrel on Sept 21, 2023 18:39:26 GMT
You do realise that you're also a lefty mate? How on earth do you get on the right side? You’d have to be in the National Front to stand a chance! www.politicalcompass.org/uk2019This is daft as well. The Conservative Party who legalised Gay marriage is apparently very socially authoritarian?
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 21, 2023 18:55:43 GMT
Economic Left/Right: 1.0 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.31 Does that mean I'm a lefty? Means you're somewhere between Mr blobby and Sam Smith. I wouldn't mind being between Mr Blobby and Sam Smith tbf 😍
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 21, 2023 19:34:35 GMT
Yes, absolutely. Diversity of opinions and perspectives is as important as diversity of cultures and backgrounds to the British identity! I disagree about the comparison but that's my right to do so. What do you mean “the comparison”?
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Post by knype on Sept 21, 2023 19:35:49 GMT
Economic Left/Right: -0.5 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.77
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 21, 2023 19:37:06 GMT
Economic Left/Right: -0.5 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.77 I think that means you are sound mate.
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Post by knype on Sept 21, 2023 19:37:53 GMT
Economic Left/Right: -0.5 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.77 I think that means you are sound mate. I and everyone I know, already knows that mate but thanks for confirming
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 21, 2023 19:56:23 GMT
Economic Left/Right: -6.0 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56
Yet i have never voted labour.
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 21, 2023 20:04:19 GMT
How on earth do you get on the right side? You’d have to be in the National Front to stand a chance! www.politicalcompass.org/uk2019This is daft as well. The Conservative Party who legalised Gay marriage is apparently very socially authoritarian? That’s interesting as some on here were adamant that Brexit was a left wing thing to do!!
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Post by knype on Sept 21, 2023 20:07:45 GMT
Huddy won't be able to do it as it won't take twitter links, although we all know the answer for him...😁
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 21, 2023 20:08:41 GMT
Economic Left/Right: -0.5 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.77 Knype, a centrist!! You should be voting Lib Dem, SNP or for Kier Starmer!
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Post by knype on Sept 21, 2023 20:09:09 GMT
Economic Left/Right: -0.5 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.77 Knype, a centrist!! You should be voting Lib Dem, SNP or for Kier Starmer! Fcuk that
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 21, 2023 20:17:24 GMT
Economic Left/Right: -6.0 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56 Yet i have never voted labour. According to the results I’m far more likely to vote labour than you! It could have done with a section on the last leg tbf😉
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Post by swampmongrel on Sept 21, 2023 20:18:53 GMT
That’s interesting as some on here were adamant that Brexit was a left wing thing to do!! Hard to say. Brexit doesn’t fit along left/right axiis. There were reasonable left wing cases for both remain and leave, just as there were reasonable right wing cases for both. Hence both large parties were internally split. Historically, of course, ‘the right’ were for more European integration whilst ‘the left’ were against.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 21, 2023 20:18:56 GMT
Economic Left/Right: -0.5 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.77 Knype, a centrist!! You should be voting Lib Dem, SNP or for Kier Starmer! Indeed, seems the line of questions are heavily swayed towards the purple haired, swivel eyed, do gooding monsters that besmirch our society.😉
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Post by musik on Sept 21, 2023 20:23:47 GMT
www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/21/britain-is-much-more-liberal-minded-than-is-was-40-years-ago-study-findsI found this really interesting. The “woke” points of views from 1983 are the norm today. Will that trend continue? Yet a third of the population still see something wrong with a same sex relationship! Madness. “Age has become the biggest demographic divide in British politics since the pandemic, the study says, with younger people for the first time in 40 years becoming markedly more leftwing than older people, a development it says may be down to their sense of injustice around inequality and access to housing.“ That has to worry the tories! Or do people become more right wing with age?? Obviously this thread will descend very quickly into ridiculousness, but I thought worth flagging a fascinating article. In Sweden it has always been: the older you'll get the more right wing you'll become. Some like to explain it in this way: When you're young you don't know that much, in time you'll realise how everything works in a society, and then there's no other way than going right.
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Post by gawa on Sept 21, 2023 20:29:49 GMT
www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/21/britain-is-much-more-liberal-minded-than-is-was-40-years-ago-study-findsI found this really interesting. The “woke” points of views from 1983 are the norm today. Will that trend continue? Yet a third of the population still see something wrong with a same sex relationship! Madness. “Age has become the biggest demographic divide in British politics since the pandemic, the study says, with younger people for the first time in 40 years becoming markedly more leftwing than older people, a development it says may be down to their sense of injustice around inequality and access to housing.“ That has to worry the tories! Or do people become more right wing with age?? Obviously this thread will descend very quickly into ridiculousness, but I thought worth flagging a fascinating article. In Sweden it has always been: the older you'll get the more right wing you'll become. Some like to explain it in this way: When you're young you don't know that much, in time you'll realise how everything works in a society, and then there's no other way than going right. We call that going senile in our country
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Post by iancransonsknees on Sept 21, 2023 20:36:03 GMT
Economic Left/Right: -6.0 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56 Yet i have never voted labour. Fucking Tory
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 21, 2023 22:53:48 GMT
Knype, a centrist!! You should be voting Lib Dem, SNP or for Kier Starmer! Indeed, seems the line of questions are heavily swayed towards the purple haired, swivel eyed, do gooding monsters that besmirch our society.😉 They're wokeys they are.
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Post by skip on Sept 21, 2023 23:58:49 GMT
Economic Left/Right: -6.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67
Typical London University Arty Farty . . .
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Post by skip on Sept 22, 2023 0:00:55 GMT
How on earth do you get on the right side? You’d have to be in the National Front to stand a chance! www.politicalcompass.org/uk2019This is daft as well. The Conservative Party who legalised Gay marriage is apparently very socially authoritarian? Thatcher dreaming up Cause 28 cancels that moment of social sobriety up.
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Post by aureliuspotter on Sept 22, 2023 0:10:57 GMT
www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/21/britain-is-much-more-liberal-minded-than-is-was-40-years-ago-study-findsI found this really interesting. The “woke” points of views from 1983 are the norm today. Will that trend continue? Yet a third of the population still see something wrong with a same sex relationship! Madness. “Age has become the biggest demographic divide in British politics since the pandemic, the study says, with younger people for the first time in 40 years becoming markedly more leftwing than older people, a development it says may be down to their sense of injustice around inequality and access to housing.“ That has to worry the tories! Or do people become more right wing with age?? Obviously this thread will descend very quickly into ridiculousness, but I thought worth flagging a fascinating article. In Sweden it has always been: the older you'll get the more right wing you'll become. Some like to explain it in this way: When you're young you don't know that much, in time you'll realise how everything works in a society, and then there's no other way than going right. Same in the UK mate, for most people they grown out of the left winger phase and when they grow up, get some life experience and mature, they become more right minded.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Sept 22, 2023 4:13:24 GMT
In Sweden it has always been: the older you'll get the more right wing you'll become. Some like to explain it in this way: When you're young you don't know that much, in time you'll realise how everything works in a society, and then there's no other way than going right. Same in the UK mate, for most people they grown out of the left winger phase and when they grow up, get some life experience and mature, they become more right minded. So the lefter you are the more immature you are? That helps explain our scores then Badger 👍
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Post by swampmongrel on Sept 22, 2023 4:49:07 GMT
Thatcher dreaming up Cause 28 cancels that moment of social sobriety up. Yeah but I was commenting about where politics is now not 40 years ago.
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Post by swampmongrel on Sept 22, 2023 4:52:00 GMT
Thatcher dreaming up Cause 28 cancels that moment of social sobriety up. Yeah but I was commenting about where politics is now not 40 years ago. Look at the survey in the original post. Britain has become extraordinarily unconservative. Badge and his woke mates have won the culture war. They just don’t realise it yet.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 22, 2023 6:38:12 GMT
www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/21/britain-is-much-more-liberal-minded-than-is-was-40-years-ago-study-findsI found this really interesting. The “woke” points of views from 1983 are the norm today. Will that trend continue? Yet a third of the population still see something wrong with a same sex relationship! Madness. “Age has become the biggest demographic divide in British politics since the pandemic, the study says, with younger people for the first time in 40 years becoming markedly more leftwing than older people, a development it says may be down to their sense of injustice around inequality and access to housing.“ That has to worry the tories! Or do people become more right wing with age?? Obviously this thread will descend very quickly into ridiculousness, but I thought worth flagging a fascinating article. Hard to tell if this trend will continue to be honest because I feel it's quite selective with what it uses for it's comparisons. Like discussing responsibilities in the house such as ironing - the difference being 40 years ago you didn't need 2 people in a household working to survive. So women could stay at home and thus more people would have seen those chores as a womans responsibility. With the current cost of living problems, along with childcare costs etc.. I'm sure many women in todays society would gladly become a "housewife" if they could afford it. Difference is it's not possible anymore. As for gay rights, it's great to see attitudes change there in a positive way and I think alot of that just comes down to more people being exposed to it. When we live in multicultural societies people become more accepting and understanding of different cultures and races. Similarly living amongst gay people and them becomining more prominent on TV and in society normalised it and people weren't so bothered. For trans stuff I'm not too sure what I predict there - I think that's a completely different bag of worms. Of course as more people become "trans" I expect a similar trend as it will be normalised but there are issues there from a biological perspective that can't be ignored. And long term we still don't know the impacts it has on people which have converted. Over time we may get more stories from people who have converted and regret it. When you think about the amount of people who have died and been born over the last 40 years too, is it people becoming more open to new ideas? Or is it people growing up surrounded by these new ideas where they become more normalised to it and it's no longer seen as a "new idea". A person from my generation will have grown up with more openly gay people in school and with more gay icons on tv. The next generation probably has more exposer to trans stuff making that more normalised for them. But lets not forget for the majority of the last 40 years this country has voted in a conservative government so I'm not sure if we're as liberal as this suggests. When it comes to gay marriage etc.. we the people don't vote on that, our politicians do it in the commons and lords. And we can all agree alot of things they've passed are things which the population maybe wouldn't have voted for. The one thing we do vote for is our government and we seem to still vote right wing there. Where there is a disconnect between young and old is the problems affecting the different coherts. Old people don't give a fuck about housing because they're sorted. They don't care about education fees because they're not going back into education. They don't care about climate change because it won't impact them. They care about their pensions, health care, public transport etc.. because these things directly affect them. They're much more closed off to different cultures, sexs, genders, relgions because this isn't their "normal" and they get little opportunity to be exposed to it so their opinions are largely made up from what they read or hear. When it comes to young people I think there's a difference between those more liberal. On one hand you have the activist community who tend to focus more on specific issues directly affecting them or which they're passionate about. Then you have the other type of liberal person who may also be supportive of trans, climate, blm issues but they don't see them as "core" issues which I'd allign myself with more. That doesn't mean I don't support causes related to those, many of them I do, but they're not make or break for me. Housing, Education, Drugs reform, Health care, inequality are much more important and I'd pick the candidate which makes sorting those problems a priority every day over the candidate who's focus is on trans stuff. And the reason for that is that all those issues affect young people right now - trans issues are just a small percentage of people impacted and with everything being fucked right now - those issues deserve more focus in my opinion. Unfortunately for every young person paying an extra 10% tax due to studying at university and paying 50% more on rent than the average home owner with a mortgage; there are another 10 elderly people who have none of these problems and will simply vote for which party puts more money into their pension even if it means public and health services suffer as a result. There seems to be a growing trend of young people who no longer pay into pensions because they've lost faith in the system and just can't afford to make the payments anymore. This will lead to further dependency on state pensions in 30-40 years time and I imagine the cycle will continue. Because as humans we generally are selfish and always put ourselves first most of the time, and we have a number of political parties who care most about retaining power rather than resolving problems. The future is bleak from a global perspective and this is shown through the rise in global mental health issues. We don't need pills to make us into zombies, we need hope, equality and leaders who put people before corporations. But we'll never get those people while the corporations control the media. excellent post.
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