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Post by liathroid on Sept 20, 2023 21:15:18 GMT
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Post by Davef on Sept 20, 2023 21:20:05 GMT
What the hell is Rose doing for their equaliser?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 20, 2023 21:21:23 GMT
What the hell is Rose doing for their equaliser? Utterly dreadful defending and the manager was very angry about it in his post match interview
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Post by loosestools on Sept 20, 2023 21:24:57 GMT
All over the shop in defence. Appalling from professional footballers.
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Post by vinnyoverson on Sept 20, 2023 21:26:06 GMT
What the hell is Rose doing for their equaliser? My thoughts exactly. Had to watch it back two or three times to make sure my eyes were not deceiving me. Stepped out on his own and left the eventual goal scorer as free as a bird. His original position was fine and would have probably led to him blocking the shot or getting his foot in. Bizarre and cost us a goal.
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Post by stokecitydom on Sept 20, 2023 21:27:27 GMT
What the hell is Rose doing for their equaliser? Then he has the audacity to swing his arms around and have a moan at someone. Absolutely idiotic defending.
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Sept 20, 2023 21:30:47 GMT
I liked the first Huddersfield attack where (Rose?) got nudged off the ball and then channelled Phil Wollscheid for a few seconds.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 20, 2023 21:33:17 GMT
I’m Not sure which is worse
The defence The strikers Or that wank away shirt
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 20, 2023 21:40:27 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 20, 2023 21:43:12 GMT
Two very average sides who'll both do well to finish higher than twelfth on those performances.
Every time I watch Stoke, which admittedly isn't that often, I get the impression that they're trying to play football as if they were a decent champions league side: not much physical presence, not much tackling, no real sense of urgency or pace, passing the ball around slowly because they have the quality to unlock a defence with a piece of magic anytime they like. No need to worry about defence too much.
Yet we are a mid to lower championship standard team, not a champions league side, playing in the championship where all those things listed above come in really quite useful. Physicality, speed, quick movement of the ball while the opposition is out of shape, a solid defence. It's really odd, like we're trying to play a brand of football entirely unsuited to the league we're in.
Edit: meant to say, the only time I've actually seen this work was Cov away last season
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 20, 2023 21:47:09 GMT
I liked the first Huddersfield attack where (Rose?) got nudged off the ball and then channelled Phil Wollscheid for a few seconds. Gonna say, Rose set the scene in that first Huddersfield attack
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 20, 2023 21:55:40 GMT
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Post by Gods on Sept 20, 2023 22:08:53 GMT
It's weird, I read on here that we missed a hatful of chances tonight at Huddesrfield and even had the ball in the net 4 times but then whenever I watch these Sky highlights packages there is never even one single attack of ours unless it led to a goal. Same at Norwich at the weekend, I am told Dwight Gayle missed from 2 feet out with the last kick of the game but no sign of it on the highlights package.
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Post by MadridStokie on Sept 20, 2023 22:11:59 GMT
Some of our fans need to check themselves before putting forward their biased views. I was sat with the away fans and there were endless comments around me of how good we were and that we were clearly a very good team, the better side, and they did well (and were lucky) to get a point. Things need fixing, of course they do, at both ends but if you cannot see the progress we are making then I dont know what you are watching. We want to win every game, yes. We dont want to concede any goals, yes. Those things arent happening and it is disappointing. We are not as clinical as often as we should be in the final third and lack composure / confidence at times, but it is clearly coming. Equally issues in defence need sorting. But the direction of travel is absolutely right. So even our habitual lover (not), Warnock recognises we are a good team and they did well to get a point from the game (or we gifted it and we need to find a more steely streak to stop being so generous when we work so hard to create all the chances and near chances that we do).
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Post by Gods on Sept 20, 2023 22:14:56 GMT
Some of our fans need to check themselves before putting forward their biased views. I was sat with the away fans and there were endless comments around me of how good we were and that we were clearly a very good team, the better side, and they did well (and were lucky) to get a point. Things need fixing, of course they do, at both ends but if you cannot see the progress we are making then I dont know what you are watching. We want to win every game, yes. We dont want to concede any goals, yes. Those things arent happening and it is disappointing. We are not as clinical as often as we should be in the final third and lack composure / confidence at times, but it is clearly coming. Equally issues in defence need sorting. But the direction of travel is absolutely right. So even our habitual lover (not), Warnock recognises we are a good team and they did well to get a point from the game (or we gifted it and we need to find a more steely streak to stop being so generous when we work so hard to create all the chances and near chances that we do). I see what you are saying but we have had 6 seasons of opposition managers blowing smoke up our arse. Trouble is we are 19th and heading for another season dead in the water before the clocks go back.
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Post by MadridStokie on Sept 20, 2023 22:25:18 GMT
Some of our fans need to check themselves before putting forward their biased views. I was sat with the away fans and there were endless comments around me of how good we were and that we were clearly a very good team, the better side, and they did well (and were lucky) to get a point. Things need fixing, of course they do, at both ends but if you cannot see the progress we are making then I dont know what you are watching. We want to win every game, yes. We dont want to concede any goals, yes. Those things arent happening and it is disappointing. We are not as clinical as often as we should be in the final third and lack composure / confidence at times, but it is clearly coming. Equally issues in defence need sorting. But the direction of travel is absolutely right. So even our habitual lover (not), Warnock recognises we are a good team and they did well to get a point from the game (or we gifted it and we need to find a more steely streak to stop being so generous when we work so hard to create all the chances and near chances that we do). I see what you are saying but we have had 6 seasons of opposition managers blowing smoke up our arse. Trouble is we are 19th and heading for another season dead in the water before the clocks go back. Cant disagree with what you are saying as those are the facts. We need to start turning the encouraging performance and good play into gaols and stop conceding awful goals. If we dont do that, then we are doomed, agreed. I would be flabbergasted though if the direction of travel does not see us getting improved results. A fact is that tonight we have an away point which is an improvement from the prior 3 away matches .... and we scored 2 goals (and should have had at least a few more) which is an improvement. But I was just very encouraged by what I saw tonight. I know what you are saying about the 2 minutes highlights making it seem as though it was a more even game. They had 2 shots on goal in the first 30 mins before their opener (and they are in those highlights) but otherwise it was all us ... but our composure / lack of final ball at times let us down. Campbell blazed over a few times and then the 2 offside goals as well.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 20, 2023 22:28:08 GMT
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Post by MadridStokie on Sept 20, 2023 22:44:33 GMT
Very impressed with him tonight, that was only his second game for us (I think ?). He was always moving into space, showing for the ball, driving at them. He opened up spaces for Campbell and for the midfield to burst into and down the sides of them. Disappointed when he went off but maybe he is not fully fit yet. Again, the Huddersfield fans around me were impressed by him and happy that we took him off ! People are cussing Laurent, yes there were a few errors from him, disappointing. But I was watching him especially tonight, given the negativity, and he was all over the pitch. He was a part of a lot of our incisive attacking and got back to make some good defensive challenges in midfield / our half. Is he the complete package ... well, no, he has a little way to go to be as good as De Bruyne
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 20, 2023 22:46:10 GMT
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 20, 2023 22:56:19 GMT
I liked the first Huddersfield attack where (Rose?) got nudged off the ball and then channelled Phil Wollscheid for a few seconds. Gonna say, Rose set the scene in that first Huddersfield attack Weak as piss is Rose.Pathetic defending from him for both goals.
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Post by liathroid on Sept 21, 2023 5:54:16 GMT
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Post by liathroid on Sept 21, 2023 5:54:58 GMT
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Sept 21, 2023 6:27:37 GMT
Some of our fans need to check themselves before putting forward their biased views. I was sat with the away fans and there were endless comments around me of how good we were and that we were clearly a very good team, the better side, and they did well (and were lucky) to get a point. Things need fixing, of course they do, at both ends but if you cannot see the progress we are making then I dont know what you are watching. We want to win every game, yes. We dont want to concede any goals, yes. Those things arent happening and it is disappointing. We are not as clinical as often as we should be in the final third and lack composure / confidence at times, but it is clearly coming. Equally issues in defence need sorting. But the direction of travel is absolutely right. So even our habitual lover (not), Warnock recognises we are a good team and they did well to get a point from the game (or we gifted it and we need to find a more steely streak to stop being so generous when we work so hard to create all the chances and near chances that we do). He's hardly going to say "Stoke are shit, and we still couldn't beat them" though, is he? We've a whole raft of new players, but the same old problems; gaps in the squad (in key areas), bizarre tactics, a tendency towards 'safety first' etc, and some players just not cutting it. Based on what I've seen so far, I'm predicting 8 pts from the next 7 games. We need more & I hope we get double that. But 8 from the next 7 keeps us around 18th/19th. Not the mark of a 'very good side'.
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Post by MadridStokie on Sept 21, 2023 6:34:50 GMT
Some of our fans need to check themselves before putting forward their biased views. I was sat with the away fans and there were endless comments around me of how good we were and that we were clearly a very good team, the better side, and they did well (and were lucky) to get a point. Things need fixing, of course they do, at both ends but if you cannot see the progress we are making then I dont know what you are watching. We want to win every game, yes. We dont want to concede any goals, yes. Those things arent happening and it is disappointing. We are not as clinical as often as we should be in the final third and lack composure / confidence at times, but it is clearly coming. Equally issues in defence need sorting. But the direction of travel is absolutely right. So even our habitual lover (not), Warnock recognises we are a good team and they did well to get a point from the game (or we gifted it and we need to find a more steely streak to stop being so generous when we work so hard to create all the chances and near chances that we do). He's hardly going to say "Stoke are shit, and we still couldn't beat them" though, is he? We've a whole raft of new players, but the same old problems; gaps in the squad (in key areas), bizarre tactics, a tendency towards 'safety first' etc, and some players just not cutting it. Based on what I've seen so far, I'm predicting 8 pts from the next 7 games. We need more & I hope we get double that. But 8 from the next 7 keeps us around 18th/19th. Not the mark of a 'very good side'. Chelsea, Man U, Newcastle, Brentford ... all not very good sides based on the same metric of points return Oh and it wasnt just Warnock, a lot (and I mean a LOT) of Huddersfield fans around me last night were saying how good a team we were and how well we played and they were lucky to get a point. I was sat with the "level headed" lot ... they had no reason to make guarded comments.
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Sept 21, 2023 6:43:08 GMT
He's hardly going to say "Stoke are shit, and we still couldn't beat them" though, is he? We've a whole raft of new players, but the same old problems; gaps in the squad (in key areas), bizarre tactics, a tendency towards 'safety first' etc, and some players just not cutting it. Based on what I've seen so far, I'm predicting 8 pts from the next 7 games. We need more & I hope we get double that. But 8 from the next 7 keeps us around 18th/19th. Not the mark of a 'very good side'. Chelsea, Man U, Newcastle, Brentford ... all not very good sides based on the same metric of points return Oh and it wasnt just Warnock, a lot (and I mean a LOT) of Huddersfield fans around me last night were saying how good a team we were and how well we played and they were lucky to get a point. I was sat with the "level headed" lot ... they had no reason to make guarded comments. I'd take this return, for a club like us in the PL, no worries. We're in the Championship. And we've not broken top-half since we got relegated. So it's only logical, that people are out of patience, with waiting for us to turn the corner. The rebuild we've just had, is a chance for the biggest reset we could have hoped for. Are early signs 'promising'? I'm not convinced (yet). Like Gods said - I want points on the board, not smoke up my arse.
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Post by MadridStokie on Sept 21, 2023 6:58:54 GMT
Chelsea, Man U, Newcastle, Brentford ... all not very good sides based on the same metric of points return Oh and it wasnt just Warnock, a lot (and I mean a LOT) of Huddersfield fans around me last night were saying how good a team we were and how well we played and they were lucky to get a point. I was sat with the "level headed" lot ... they had no reason to make guarded comments. I'd take this return, for a club like us in the PL, no worries. We're in the Championship. And we've not broken top-half since we got relegated. So it's only logical, that people are out of patience, with waiting for us to turn the corner. The rebuild we've just had, is a chance for the biggest reset we could have hoped for. Are early signs 'promising'? I'm not convinced (yet). Like Gods said - I want points on the board, not smoke up my arse. Cant disagree with you that I would take 7 points from 7 matches if we were in the Premier League, doesnt mean we wouldnt be in for a struggle, or maybe we would make the Champions League after 7 from 7. I think you would say it is too early to tell for Chelsea, Man U, Newcastle, Brentford et al. Equally I think its too early for us just as it is for those 4 teams in the Prem. Where I dont agree is that it is not promising. I was hugely encouraged by last night ... and Huddersfield fans (neutrals so to speak) were very impressed by us too even if they were also thankful for the 2 sloppy goals we gave them. But they recognised they had been under the cosh and were lucky to get away with a point ... in that respect I feel like I watched the same game as them. I dont feel like I watched the same game as some Stoke fans on here with their view that we were awful and it wasnt good enough. Was it good enough to win ... no it wasnt becasue we didnt. Was it a highly encouraging performance ... absolutely ... with some things still to work on.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 21, 2023 7:00:19 GMT
The more you watch it the second goal the worse it gets. What is going through Rose’s head.
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Post by scfcwebby on Sept 21, 2023 8:28:30 GMT
What the fuck was Rose doing for their second 🤦🏻
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 21, 2023 8:32:36 GMT
It's weird, I read on here that we missed a hatful of chances tonight at Huddesrfield and even had the ball in the net 4 times but then whenever I watch these Sky highlights packages there is never even one single attack of ours unless it led to a goal. Same at Norwich at the weekend, I am told Dwight Gayle missed from 2 feet out with the last kick of the game but no sign of it on the highlights package. Their keeper had very few saves to make. Possibly one. The chances we had were fluffed.
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Post by jm on Sept 21, 2023 9:05:53 GMT
Some of our fans need to check themselves before putting forward their biased views. I was sat with the away fans and there were endless comments around me of how good we were and that we were clearly a very good team, the better side, and they did well (and were lucky) to get a point. Things need fixing, of course they do, at both ends but if you cannot see the progress we are making then I dont know what you are watching. We want to win every game, yes. We dont want to concede any goals, yes. Those things arent happening and it is disappointing. We are not as clinical as often as we should be in the final third and lack composure / confidence at times, but it is clearly coming. Equally issues in defence need sorting. But the direction of travel is absolutely right. So even our habitual lover (not), Warnock recognises we are a good team and they did well to get a point from the game (or we gifted it and we need to find a more steely streak to stop being so generous when we work so hard to create all the chances and near chances that we do). Stop talking sense on here - you'll be shot down in no time
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