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Post by glpotter on Sept 20, 2023 20:37:02 GMT
They can’t seem to have the same levels of energy for 90 mins
Worrying
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Post by dirtclod on Sept 20, 2023 20:39:56 GMT
NO and we haven't been for years compared to other teams.
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Post by loosestools on Sept 20, 2023 20:40:57 GMT
A big NO from me.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 20, 2023 20:47:25 GMT
Could have 11 players fitter than Mo Farah and it would mean nothing with this waster in charge
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 20, 2023 20:53:48 GMT
Probably not, one or two didn't get a preseason for one reason or another or haven't played much since.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 20, 2023 20:54:43 GMT
Could have 11 players fitter than Mo Farah and it would mean nothing with this waster in charge What did the "waster" do wrong today? |
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 20, 2023 20:57:43 GMT
Could have 11 players fitter than Mo Farah and it would mean nothing with this waster in charge What did the "waster" do wrong today? Different starting 11 again Different formation again Played players out of position Has done nothing to address our inability to defend set pieces Played Laurent again Made Laurent captain Need I go on? |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 20, 2023 20:58:44 GMT
Laurent and burger aren't fit enough, the midfield was always too slow to get back in shape.
Awful awful stuff
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 20, 2023 21:03:20 GMT
What did the "waster" do wrong today? Different starting 11 again Different formation again Played players out of position Has done nothing to address our inability to defend set pieces Played Laurent again Made Laurent captain Need I go on? Diff starting 11 that massively improved on the last. Ditto formation One player out of position due to injury Set piece defending won't improve with what we have, none seem capable in the air Laurent I agree with Please do.... |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 20, 2023 21:04:30 GMT
Laurent and burger aren't fit enough, the midfield was always too slow to get back in shape. Awful awful stuff Not sure that's fitness, Laurent has always looked slow getting back. |
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Post by willieeetmiout on Sept 20, 2023 21:11:47 GMT
Different starting 11 again Different formation again Played players out of position Has done nothing to address our inability to defend set pieces Played Laurent again Made Laurent captain Need I go on? Diff starting 11 that massively improved on the last. Ditto formation One player out of position due to injury Set piece defending won't improve with what we have, none seem capable in the air Laurent I agree with Please do.... AN doesn't agree with you. We played fine against Norwich according to him. Should have scored 3 according to him. Why change it then if we were so good against much shitter opposition? Having no left back is entirely his making. The bloke talks out his arse. He has no idea what he is doing. It's Nathan Jones esq. |
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 20, 2023 21:13:00 GMT
Did seem to run out of juice midway second half so no, they aren’t fit, not by a long way.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 20, 2023 21:41:31 GMT
Diff starting 11 that massively improved on the last. Ditto formation One player out of position due to injury Set piece defending won't improve with what we have, none seem capable in the air Laurent I agree with Please do.... AN doesn't agree with you. We played fine against Norwich according to him. Should have scored 3 according to him. Why change it then if we were so good against much shitter opposition? Having no left back is entirely his making. The bloke talks out his arse. He has no idea what he is doing. It's Nathan Jones esq. We were okay against Norwich some awful passing from the CBs mind), we deserved something imo over all but that doesn't mean we didn't play a lot better today. Why change it, because we can play better, and we did, he didn't say we were amazing. No idea what he's doing but he changed it and played much better. |
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 21, 2023 6:16:05 GMT
AN doesn't agree with you. We played fine against Norwich according to him. Should have scored 3 according to him. Why change it then if we were so good against much shitter opposition? Having no left back is entirely his making. The bloke talks out his arse. He has no idea what he is doing. It's Nathan Jones esq. We were okay against Norwich some awful passing from the CBs mind), we deserved something imo over all but that doesn't mean we didn't play a lot better today. Why change it, because we can play better, and we did, he didn't say we were amazing. No idea what he's doing but he changed it and played much better. It was actually 2 players playing out of position |
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Post by ceejays on Sept 21, 2023 6:23:48 GMT
Thought we played with real fluidity albeit against a poor team . Problem was and is we can’t defend set pieces . Ipswich and now Huddersfield exploited our weakness in the air . I actually thought Johnson played really well as a wing back . He’s played there before . My issue is Gooch . Too small and will be exposed at the back post . Not a wing back . At best a squad player . The second goal is organisation and solvable .
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Post by MadridStokie on Sept 21, 2023 6:30:24 GMT
They can’t seem to have the same levels of energy for 90 mins Worrying I was at the match last night, and it was clear to me that we were as fit as, if not fitter, than Huddersfield. Last season under O'Neill we just looked off the pace during pre-season friendlies (for heavens sake Accrington or whoever the lower league side was that we lost to, ran us off the park) and then the same until he got sacked - it looked like we had not had a pre-season or done nay fitness work, it was awful. Last night, we were not over-run, quite the opposite actually. So, no, I do not think that we have an issue with fitness ... compared to other teams at least. Are we fit enough ? ... thats a different question and maybe fitness does need to improve for a number of the players who have joined without a "proper" pre-season schedule. Maybe then performances will improve further ... of individuals and the team. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 21, 2023 7:19:09 GMT
The standard test re fitness is the number of late goals conceded versus the number we scored
And there haven't really been any late goals have there
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Post by march4 on Sept 21, 2023 7:23:33 GMT
The standard test re fitness is the number of late goals conceded versus the number we scored And there haven't really been any late goals have there I don’t think fitness is a particular issue. |
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Post by dirtclod on Sept 21, 2023 14:49:23 GMT
They can’t seem to have the same levels of energy for 90 mins Worrying I was at the match last night, and it was clear to me that we were as fit as, if not fitter, than Huddersfield. Last season under O'Neill we just looked off the pace during pre-season friendlies (for heavens sake Accrington or whoever the lower league side was that we lost to, ran us off the park) and then the same until he got sacked - it looked like we had not had a pre-season or done nay fitness work, it was awful. Last night, we were not over-run, quite the opposite actually. So, no, I do not think that we have an issue with fitness ... compared to other teams at least. Are we fit enough ? ... thats a different question and maybe fitness does need to improve for a number of the players who have joined without a "proper" pre-season schedule. Maybe then performances will improve further ... of individuals and the team. Good post, I think you hit what I was getting at with my giant "NO". It's mainly the new players who haven't had the proper full season and ones like Campbell (who did do a lot of running to be fair as well as a lack of options with Mmaae and Vidigal out). I think we struggle with injuries a little more than "normal" but while I want to put that down to fitness, they end up mainly "impact" types of injures so maybe we're not as far off (fitness) as I was thinking? Well that and we can't seem to string together 90 minutes of it yet. "Front Foot Football" takes a lot of fitness/energy to sustain. (As well as a deep bench) |
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Post by thornestein on Sept 22, 2023 4:56:01 GMT
The standard test re fitness is the number of late goals conceded versus the number we scored And there haven't really been any late goals have there I don’t think fitness is a particular issue. have you seen Campbell after 60 minutes |
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Post by lordb on Sept 22, 2023 6:28:24 GMT
I don’t think fitness is a particular issue. have you seen Campbell after 60 minutes That's one player |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 22, 2023 6:30:30 GMT
Fitness isn't the issue. We're playing like a bunch of strangers who've hardly played together.
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Post by thornestein on Sept 22, 2023 7:11:32 GMT
have you seen Campbell after 60 minutes That's one player there’s a few tbh that don’t look fit |
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Post by tqstokie on Sept 22, 2023 9:45:29 GMT
Fitness isn't the issue. We're playing like a bunch of strangers who've hardly played together. I agree and making basic errors like setting defensive line too deep at freekicks and giving opposition wingers time and space to cross instead of getting out fast and challenging the man with the ball. |
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Post by professorplump on Sept 22, 2023 9:56:45 GMT
Our problems are nothing to do with fitness. We look vulnerable at the back. A dominant CB or two would instantly transform this team.
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Post by femark on Sept 22, 2023 9:57:23 GMT
Fitness isn't the issue. We're playing like a bunch of strangers who've hardly played together. I agree and making basic errors like setting defensive line too deep at freekicks and giving opposition wingers time and space to cross instead of getting out fast and challenging the man with the ball. We linked play better than we have in a long time against Huddersfield. We just made two stupid errors that cost us: 1. Setting up too deep 2. Rose having a meltdown |
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Post by MilanStokie on Sept 22, 2023 10:24:25 GMT
I am not a fan of AN approach of changing formation/personnel/tactics based on who the opposition is, I find it quite negative. Successful teams do not do this, they stick to a formation and style of play that suits their desired 11/18. This ensures familiarity with the roles the players need to do.
Changing up formation every other game, 5 different players in the starting line up every week, IMO is a sure fire way to inconsistency.
I mean, you need to be a special kind of stupid to be playing 3-5-2 when you only have 3 CBs in the whole squad. It's risky and unnecessary to play them ALL.
On a side note, I have a personal hatred of 3 at the back anyway. I do think its a viable formation, but I also think its one that is more suited to a higher level team and higher calibre players. At Championship level, its just inconsistent.
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