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Post by george2again on Sept 17, 2023 8:33:25 GMT
Toothless attacking. We have to find a way of getting two strikers up front without the dreaded 5 at back which we can’t play. Don’t have that striker who can lead the line and be a threat on his own. ( everyone saying we need another striker on deadline day !!)
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Post by baconburger on Sept 17, 2023 8:49:57 GMT
Toothless attacking. We have to find a way of getting two strikers up front without the dreaded 5 at back which we can’t play. Don’t have that striker who can lead the line and be a threat on his own. ( everyone saying we need another striker on deadline day !!) The two blokes we’ve bought in to play in the centre of the forward line have looked toss. So much so that because one is currently injured he’s now the messiah. Wasn’t it obvious all along that our biggest deal of the Summer needed to be for a mobile targetman who was competent in the air. How many goes have we had since Fletcher. Non of them have looked remotely suitable for the role. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2023 8:52:57 GMT
We just need to play 4231.
Like we have done for the last 7 years.
Play the ball on the ground, get the attackers supporting each other etc.
We have the players for it, we just need to do it.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 17, 2023 9:03:18 GMT
We just need to play 4231. Like we have done for the last 7 years. Play the ball on the ground, get the attackers supporting each other etc. We have the players for it, we just need to do it. Why do that when you can play 4 3 3, with no recognised fullbacks, three workers in the middle creating nothing, and a sea of nothingness up top |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 17, 2023 9:04:20 GMT
We just need to play 4231. Like we have done for the last 7 years. Play the ball on the ground, get the attackers supporting each other etc. We have the players for it, we just need to do it. Bang on the money. Neils (who i like) problem is 1 - He has injuries 2 - Appears terrified of leaving one of the 3 CMs out for a more positive option. 3 - Doesn’t have enough confidence in our CBs so over protects them. I know it was only Rotherham but we’ve gone backwards since the first game of the season where we looked a proper unit and with the addition of Burger we should be better not worse I’d go with Burger Pearson Vidigal Bae or Johnson Hack Mmaee When everyone’s fit |
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 17, 2023 9:07:30 GMT
We just need to play 4231. Like we have done for the last 7 years. Play the ball on the ground, get the attackers supporting each other etc. We have the players for it, we just need to do it. Bang on the money. Neils (who i like) problem is 1 - He has injuries 2 - Appears terrified of leaving one of the 3 CMs out for a more positive option. 3 - Doesn’t have enough confidence in our CBs so over protects them. I know it was only Rotherham but we’ve gone backwards since the first game of the season where we looked a proper unit and with the addition of Burger we should be better not worse I’d go with Burger Pearson Vidigal Bae or Johnson Hack Mmaee When everyone’s fit It seems pretty obvious to me also, however I fully expect our next trick will be to try 5 3 2 Travers Sunderland lad Rose Clarke Wilmot Hoever Burger Preston lad Big lad Brazilian fella Campbell |
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Post by baconburger on Sept 17, 2023 9:12:48 GMT
We just need to play 4231. Like we have done for the last 7 years. Play the ball on the ground, get the attackers supporting each other etc. We have the players for it, we just need to do it. Why do that when you can play 4 3 3, with no recognised fullbacks, three workers in the middle creating nothing, and a sea of nothingness up top It’s great when it works but you really need FB’s on both sides who produce output. With us even if it works all the threat from the FB’s comes up one side. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 17, 2023 9:13:38 GMT
We just need to play 4231. Like we have done for the last 7 years. Play the ball on the ground, get the attackers supporting each other etc. We have the players for it, we just need to do it. That still leaves an isolated striker |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2023 9:16:20 GMT
We just need to play 4231. Like we have done for the last 7 years. Play the ball on the ground, get the attackers supporting each other etc. We have the players for it, we just need to do it. That still leaves an isolated striker It doesn’t. Your wide forwards and number 10 should be all be in and around them, swapping etc. It should be anything but isolated. |
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 17, 2023 9:17:13 GMT
Does no one play Mike Bassett's 4,4 fu%@king 2 any more? 😂😂.
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Post by baconburger on Sept 17, 2023 9:18:28 GMT
Bang on the money. Neils (who i like) problem is 1 - He has injuries 2 - Appears terrified of leaving one of the 3 CMs out for a more positive option. 3 - Doesn’t have enough confidence in our CBs so over protects them. I know it was only Rotherham but we’ve gone backwards since the first game of the season where we looked a proper unit and with the addition of Burger we should be better not worse I’d go with Burger Pearson Vidigal Bae or Johnson Hack Mmaee When everyone’s fit It seems pretty obvious to me also, however I fully expect our next trick will be to try 5 3 2 Travers Sunderland lad Rose Clarke Wilmot Hoever Burger Preston lad Big lad Brazilian fella Campbell Not sure why McNally has become 4th choice CB he’s better at everything than Rose and now you’ve got a player in front of him who’s not even contracted to us and has barely played for god knows how long. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 17, 2023 9:19:16 GMT
That still leaves an isolated striker It doesn’t. Your wide forwards and number 10 should be all be in and around them, swapping etc. It should be anything but isolated. It often is though Wide forwards end up covering the full backs leaving 1 guy on his todd With Pep moving football back to WM formation the logical next step is 424 in about 5 years time with genuine wingers playing on their own side |
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 17, 2023 9:19:22 GMT
That still leaves an isolated striker It doesn’t. Your wide forwards and number 10 should be all be in and around them, swapping etc. It should be anything but isolated. To be fair It is isolated if you have Campbell ambling around on one side, Leris doing whatever he does on the otherside and Johnson running around like a headless chicken in the no 10. I woukdnt fancy leading that line 😀 |
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 17, 2023 9:22:33 GMT
It seems pretty obvious to me also, however I fully expect our next trick will be to try 5 3 2 Travers Sunderland lad Rose Clarke Wilmot Hoever Burger Preston lad Big lad Brazilian fella Campbell Not sure why McNally has become 4th choice CB he’s better at everything than Rose and now you’ve got a player in front of him who’s not even contracted to us and has barely played for god knows how long. This is what I think Neil will do not what I think |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 17, 2023 9:24:39 GMT
We just need to play 4231. Like we have done for the last 7 years. Play the ball on the ground, get the attackers supporting each other etc. We have the players for it, we just need to do it. According to some stats site I was looking at ANs preferred formation is 4231, so why not try it. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 17, 2023 9:27:48 GMT
1 up front means the one has to not only be good at all aspects of forward play but also Score goals
2 upfront can see players compliment each others strengths/negate their weaknesses
Sets the tone for the whole side, lead from the front
1 up front is so easy to defend against, pushes play into our half
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 17, 2023 9:30:57 GMT
1 up front means the one has to not only be good at all aspects of forward play but also Score goals 2 upfront can see players compliment each others strengths/negate their weaknesses Sets the tone for the whole side, lead from the front 1 up front is so easy to defend against, pushes play into our half We just sold the one guy who could have played on the left in a 4 4 2 Honestly I'm struggling to believe we had a recruitment plan, at least one in line with how we plan to set up |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 17, 2023 9:35:29 GMT
Of all the things we have tried, it’s difficult to know how this hasn’t even been an option yet. That said, I keep saying we need to give something time to work rather than changing players and formations every game.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 17, 2023 9:43:49 GMT
It doesn’t. Your wide forwards and number 10 should be all be in and around them, swapping etc. It should be anything but isolated. It often is though Wide forwards end up covering the full backs leaving 1 guy on his todd With Pep moving football back to WM formation the logical next step is 424 in about 5 years time with genuine wingers playing on their own side The full backs won’t overly need protecting with Pearson and Burger playing deeper. You have two focal central attacking points, one deeper, one advanced and wide players. You have the extra man in midfield when you don’t have the ball. Campbell Bae Vidigal Mmaee On paper is sensational. What lets it down are the centre halves as they need to learn to pass. |
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