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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 10, 2023 21:56:38 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66765708Hosting the Euros next summer. Lost 4-1 to Japan at home yesterday. Manager sacked. What's happening? Could this all just be setting the stage for another classic 'never bet against the Germans' scenario?
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Post by cvillestokie on Sept 10, 2023 22:06:04 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66765708Hosting the Euros next summer. Lost 4-1 to Japan at home yesterday. Manager sacked. What's happening? Could this all just be setting the stage for another classic 'never bet against the Germans' scenario? Haven’t been the same since Klose retired. [I’m sure I’m wrong there and they were good for a little while longer but it can’t be that far off]. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 10, 2023 22:07:16 GMT
First German manager sacked ever
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Post by Gods on Sept 10, 2023 22:07:19 GMT
Germany are 3rd favourites to win the next euros which is not what they would expect as hosts...
England. 4/1.
France. 9/2.
Germany. 6/1.
Spain. 15/2.
Italy. 9/1.
Portugal. 10/1.
Netherlands. 12/1.
Belgium. 12/1.
Could they still win it? Of course they could.
Will they be happy as 3rd favouritses? Will they fuck.
Is it worth a cheeky bet on them at those odds? Absolutely.
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Post by lordb on Sept 10, 2023 22:11:27 GMT
Germany are 3rd favourites to win the next euros which is not what they would expect as hosts... England. 4/1. France. 9/2. Germany. 6/1. Spain. 15/2. Italy. 9/1. Portugal. 10/1. Netherlands. 12/1. Belgium. 12/1. Portugal probably worth a punt Can't see either Belgium or Holland winning it or Italy Anyone other than France, England, Spain or Portugal would be a shock However maybe next summer maybe something will change |
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Post by noustie on Sept 10, 2023 22:21:07 GMT
Germany are 3rd favourites to win the next euros which is not what they would expect as hosts... England. 4/1. France. 9/2. Germany. 6/1. Spain. 15/2. Italy. 9/1. Portugal. 10/1. Netherlands. 12/1. Belgium. 12/1. Could they still win it? Of course they could. Will they be happy as 3rd favouritses? Will they fuck. Is it worth a cheeky bet on them at those odds? Absolutely. I'll always remember 2006 when had Germany to win and Klose top scorer 125/1! |
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Post by musik on Sept 10, 2023 22:23:19 GMT
It depends on how you see it.
Japan will win the next World Championship.
Both men and women. Can you bet on it? 😛
At least the most developing nation in world football today.
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Post by march4 on Sept 10, 2023 22:39:56 GMT
Economy in free fall.
Didn’t win any medals at the recent World Athletics Championships.
The power house of Europe is struggling.
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Post by lordb on Sept 11, 2023 7:36:38 GMT
Economy in free fall. Didn’t win any medals at the recent World Athletics Championships. The power house of Europe is struggling. At the risk of getting all EE I think it's fair to say their economy is in far better shape than ours |
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Sept 11, 2023 7:54:30 GMT
Germany are 3rd favourites to win the next euros which is not what they would expect as hosts... England. 4/1. France. 9/2. Germany. 6/1. Spain. 15/2. Italy. 9/1. Portugal. 10/1. Netherlands. 12/1. Belgium. 12/1. Could they still win it? Of course they could. Will they be happy as 3rd favouritses? Will they fuck. Is it worth a cheeky bet on them at those odds? Absolutely. The odds for Germany are not attractive! Croatia e/w what are their odds? |
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Post by lordb on Sept 11, 2023 7:58:56 GMT
Germany are 3rd favourites to win the next euros which is not what they would expect as hosts... England. 4/1. France. 9/2. Germany. 6/1. Spain. 15/2. Italy. 9/1. Portugal. 10/1. Netherlands. 12/1. Belgium. 12/1. Could they still win it? Of course they could. Will they be happy as 3rd favouritses? Will they fuck. Is it worth a cheeky bet on them at those odds? Absolutely. The odds for Germany are not attractive! Croatia e/w what are their odds? Surely they are too old now? Or have they one last tournament in them? |
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Post by sportsman on Sept 11, 2023 7:59:08 GMT
Economy in free fall. Didn’t win any medals at the recent World Athletics Championships. The power house of Europe is struggling. At the risk of getting all EE I think it's fair to say their economy is in far better shape than ours BERLIN, Aug 25 (Reuters) - Germany's economy stagnated in the second quarter from the previous three months, showing no sign of recovery from a winter recession and cementing its position as one of the world's weakest major economies.25 Aug 2023 |
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Post by fca47 on Sept 11, 2023 7:59:57 GMT
Some people must have more money than sense making England favourites. Any one of those top ten would beat us in a one off game, whilst Southgate is in charge
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Post by lordb on Sept 11, 2023 8:03:46 GMT
Some people must have more money than sense making England favourites. Any one of those top ten would beat us in a one off game, whilst Southgate is in charge We've beaten Belgium, Italy, Germany recently Spain not that long ago either |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 11, 2023 8:49:05 GMT
Dutch are a good price.
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Post by march4 on Sept 11, 2023 8:53:51 GMT
Economy in free fall. Didn’t win any medals at the recent World Athletics Championships. The power house of Europe is struggling. At the risk of getting all EE I think it's fair to say their economy is in far better shape than ours Amazingly, that’s simply not true any longer. |
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Post by flea79 on Sept 11, 2023 8:58:32 GMT
should have never fallen out with the Russians and started fighting on two fronts should they!
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Post by lordb on Sept 11, 2023 8:58:44 GMT
They lack quality in attack, creativity missing Solid team though |
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Post by skip on Sept 11, 2023 9:03:40 GMT
Economy in free fall. Didn’t win any medals at the recent World Athletics Championships. The power house of Europe is struggling. Also at the risk of getting all EE, when the lead article in the The Spectator of all publications this week is that the UK is f**ked (see the excellent cover illustration of Britannia literally shielding herself from falling concrete), I think we can safely say this country needs a massive change more than Germany does. |
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 11, 2023 9:33:35 GMT
Economy in free fall. Didn’t win any medals at the recent World Athletics Championships. The power house of Europe is struggling. Also at the risk of getting all EE, when the lead article in the The Spectator of all publications this week is that the UK is f**ked (see the excellent cover illustration of Britannia literally shielding herself from falling concrete), I think we can safely say this country needs a massive change more than Germany does. On the plus side, we got our sovereignty back. That's the main thing. |
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Post by skip on Sept 11, 2023 9:34:54 GMT
Also at the risk of getting all EE, when the lead article in the The Spectator of all publications this week is that the UK is f**ked (see the excellent cover illustration of Britannia literally shielding herself from falling concrete), I think we can safely say this country needs a massive change more than Germany does. On the plus side, we got our sovereignty back. That's the main thing. Thank heavens for that. There was the unveiling of the new King Charles tartan last week. That's put a spring in the Nation's step! |
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 11, 2023 9:42:59 GMT
On the plus side, we got our sovereignty back. That's the main thing. Thank heavens for that. There was the unveiling of the new King Charles tartan last week. That's put a spring in the Nation's step! God save him. Better than having a bunch of Germans, with their failing economy and lack of running medals, lording it over us. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 11, 2023 9:48:52 GMT
They lack quality in attack, creativity missing Solid team though Better team would have beaten them yesterday, they were so fragile at the back. Shame no Ferguson as some decent ball into the box, begging for someone on the end of it. Not impressed with them at all but for 40 minutes Ireland played some great stuff, pressed them but ran out of steam. The most wide open tournament can think of coming up. I'd say are between 8 and 10 sides with a good chance of winning it |
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 11, 2023 9:57:36 GMT
They lack quality in attack, creativity missing Solid team though Better team would have beaten them yesterday, they were so fragile at the back. Shame no Ferguson as some decent ball into the box, begging for someone on the end of it. Not impressed with them at all but for 40 minutes Ireland played some great stuff, pressed them but ran out of steam. The most wide open tournament can think of coming up. I'd say are between 8 and 10 sides with a good chance of winning it England should be walking it. If only we didn't have such a shite manager. If we do win it will be on spite of Southgate. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 11, 2023 9:59:08 GMT
Better team would have beaten them yesterday, they were so fragile at the back. Shame no Ferguson as some decent ball into the box, begging for someone on the end of it. Not impressed with them at all but for 40 minutes Ireland played some great stuff, pressed them but ran out of steam. The most wide open tournament can think of coming up. I'd say are between 8 and 10 sides with a good chance of winning it England should be walking it. If only we didn't have such a shite manager. If we do win it will be on spite of Southgate. Certainly should be one of the real favourites but think you're right. Jose would have won something with England by now |
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Post by thevoid on Sept 11, 2023 10:14:13 GMT
You just know Germany will regroup and win something before we do, just like they did after 2002
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Post by noustie on Sept 11, 2023 10:15:43 GMT
Between France and England for me.
Spain and Italy have still work to do in the groups too before even thinking about the tournament. If Spain slip up away at Norway our group's back to a three horse race especially if we do our usual fucking it up in Georgia routine.
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Post by beautifulnorth on Sept 11, 2023 11:39:02 GMT
At the risk of getting all EE I think it's fair to say their economy is in far better shape than ours BERLIN, Aug 25 (Reuters) - Germany's economy stagnated in the second quarter from the previous three months, showing no sign of recovery from a winter recession and cementing its position as one of the world's weakest major economies.25 Aug 2023 Germany will recover. Our's will not. Not without major changes to the country, and country outlook as a whole. |
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 11, 2023 12:18:26 GMT
First German manager sacked ever Incredible, given (on paper at least) the impressive squad Germany has and how successful Flick was at Bayern. |
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Post by superpej on Sept 11, 2023 12:34:07 GMT
On Germany - the economy is over dependent on manufacturing and has been slow to adapt to structural change to services and hi tech sectors and has over reliance on China for exports and off shore manufacturing. They have fixation with keeping inflation national debt low but the downside is that their infra structure is run down. Politically they seek stable governments through PR and coalitions although now we have the radical rightwing Alternatives for Germany AFD party popular in the still unequal East. Regional devolution is historically strong.
On football the national team has been in decline for years - now I think man for man they are comparatively weak and don't have the durability which made them a championship winning in the past. The younger generation has now yet fully appeared with various players not really showing maturity - too many older players are still hanging around. I don't think winning is on for next year semis at best.
Not without its problems Germany is in better shape than the UK - only the language, weather and food would stop me living there.
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