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Post by Bera’s Beano on Sept 9, 2023 17:55:55 GMT
Bollocks, the quality of football of old was shite too, so it is irrelevant. Pretty simply, the surfaces these players are used to playing on will be quality, the change will of course mess with their game. It is the same for both sides but Ukraine aren’t here to play much football so it’s better for them, it’s not an excuse, it’s just the game plans of the teams. Okay Mr. Klopp- you are right, how can quality players be expected to perform if the grass is too long?😂😂😂 Fuck all to do with the length of the grass. You can see the amount of issues with the surface, but very funny post of course 👍
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 9, 2023 17:57:36 GMT
You obviously never saw the pitches of old if you think that's poor! Same for both sides. Bollocks, the quality of football of old was shite too, so it is irrelevant. Pretty simply, the surfaces these players are used to playing on will be quality, the change will of course mess with their game. It is the same for both sides but Ukraine aren’t here to play much football so it’s better for them, it’s not an excuse, it’s just the game plans of the teams. England's game plan was let down because Southgate came up with it, not because of the pitch.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 9, 2023 17:59:28 GMT
A point's a point, I guess, but really sluggish performance. Sometimes we look so clueless, much like Stoke in fact.
Will all be forgotten about when we've qualified which we will do with wins v Malta and North Macedonia.
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Post by stokeson on Sept 9, 2023 17:59:30 GMT
I am so pleased for Ukraine. England are qualifying no matter what happened. Like Stoke and England to win every game but With you on this one. Not that we deserved to Win...
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 9, 2023 18:00:04 GMT
Taking Bellingham off was a mistake, lost all impetus, he was the one who was moving them about.
That said, neither Foden or Rashford did anything - particularly Foden.
One of those games, can't win them all.
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Post by tigermoth on Sept 9, 2023 18:00:28 GMT
Ukraine celebrating like it's a win 😂
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Post by nott1 on Sept 9, 2023 18:03:00 GMT
Taking Bellingham off was a mistake, lost all impetus, he was the one who was moving them about. That said, neither Foden or Rashford did anything - particularly Foden. One of those games, can't win them all. But how come this is happening when we have one of the greatest squads of all time..........some say?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 9, 2023 18:03:33 GMT
Ukraine celebrating like it's a win 😂 Big result for them.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 9, 2023 18:04:44 GMT
Will we even beat Scotland?
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Post by Mystic Stokie on Sept 9, 2023 18:06:52 GMT
Taking Bellingham off was a mistake, lost all impetus, he was the one who was moving them about. That said, neither Foden or Rashford did anything - particularly Foden. One of those games, can't win them all. But how come this is happening when we have one of the greatest squads of all time..........some say? Shite manager.
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 9, 2023 18:07:12 GMT
Southgate is shite, Joe Cole and his arse licking pisses me off too. We need more honesty from ex players and FFS call Southgate out.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 9, 2023 18:08:36 GMT
But how come this is happening when we have one of the greatest squads of all time..........some say? Shite manager. He wasn't playing and could only watch! Don't tell me this was his plan.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 9, 2023 18:10:37 GMT
Southgate is shite, Joe Cole and his arse licking pisses me off too. We need more honesty from ex players and FFS call Southgate out. We need more from current players!
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 9, 2023 18:12:39 GMT
He wasn't playing and could only watch! Don't tell me this was his plan. Henderson is semi retired, Maguire has been retired for over a season and his tactics are non existent. It's poor management. He promised to only play players who played regularly and in form, he's doing neither. Southgate keeps the opposition in the game with his dull football.
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Post by thisisouryear on Sept 9, 2023 18:14:01 GMT
Southgate is shite, Joe Cole and his arse licking pisses me off too. We need more honesty from ex players and FFS call Southgate out. We need more from current players! It's not the players, it's Southgate. He would struggle to hold a job in the Championship.
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Post by werrington on Sept 9, 2023 18:14:45 GMT
Ukraine love and fawn in now on C4
Fuck off
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 9, 2023 18:15:02 GMT
A point there is fine.
More sense of self-entitlement from England fans. Any country would be fine with a point there.
We've got a decent squad ok, but we've had fantastic players with bigger reputations before and not won anything.
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Post by peterpan1 on Sept 9, 2023 18:16:09 GMT
England......Great squad, wank manager. Great? Have you been watching? I did waste 2hrs of my life watching yet again. I still maintain they have the best squad in depth in my 40yrs of watching England. We just need a proper manager to actually win something.
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Post by Billy the kid on Sept 9, 2023 18:16:10 GMT
Over all that was a snoozefest.
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Post by BuzzB on Sept 9, 2023 18:20:36 GMT
I think we can forgive a poor one, got a point away so not disastrous. Bear in mind how good we have been recently, especially in Italy, just move on. The sweaties will be after us on Tuesday, I half expect a few "withdrawals" over the weekend, who planned this friendly ffs!
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 9, 2023 18:23:46 GMT
A point there is fine. More sense of self-entitlement from England fans. Any country would be fine with a point there. We've got a decent squad ok, but we've had fantastic players with bigger reputations before and not won anything. Agree, just reading the hysterical comments on the BBC and you'd think we'd lost the game 4-0. People need to get a grip I think.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 9, 2023 18:25:47 GMT
International football - complete corrupt wank fest - that is all ....
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 9, 2023 18:29:25 GMT
When managers say “we controlled the game” it infuriates the life out of me😡As we all know as Stoke fans you can have all the possession in the world but if you don’t create anything it means fuck all
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 9, 2023 18:30:49 GMT
Ukraine celebrating like it's a win 😂 Like we used to celebrate when we drew with one of the big boys you mean?
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Post by onepara on Sept 9, 2023 18:34:32 GMT
Scotland are playing well, so we will need to up our game. They'll be fired up. As they always are against us. Friendly or not.
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Post by maine on Sept 9, 2023 18:40:42 GMT
It was a reasonable result against a justifiably motivated team. Gareth Southgate should probably put McGuire and Henderson out to grass now, especially as there are younger and better alternatives.
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Post by tigermoth on Sept 9, 2023 18:41:04 GMT
Ukraine celebrating like it's a win 😂 Like we used to celebrate when we drew with one of the big boys you mean? Ye just like that.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 9, 2023 18:45:48 GMT
When managers say “we controlled the game” it infuriates the life out of me😡As we all know as Stoke fans you can have all the possession in the world but if you don’t create anything it means fuck all Controlled it that well we went a goal down 😄
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 9, 2023 18:53:43 GMT
Haven't been able to watch today. Fair result?
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Post by lordb on Sept 9, 2023 18:56:13 GMT
Fair result England well below par It was really hot and the play far too slow thought our average players, Guehi, Henderson, Maguire did fine whereas our exciting talent, Bellingham, Saka were well off it Shocked how bad Bellingham was but there you go
On the upside there were thousands of beautiful women at the game
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