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Hoever!
Sept 4, 2023 23:16:05 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 4, 2023 23:16:05 GMT
Scores goals. He’s a right back. He can’t defend. That’s all that matters. Being a good defender isn’t all that matters in right backs anymore though is it? Surely the fact that Alexander-Arnold has won everything you can win at club level playing right back is proof of that. The fact is a lot of the time Hoever has been one of our best attacking options and playing him at right back gets the best out of him in that sense rather than wing back or on the wing. He’s not undroppable and I don’t think anyone is saying he is but in an Alex Neil system with the full backs pushing up high as they were on our best run of games last season, he works pretty well most of the time. He’s been poor for a couple of games this season though and should probably be dropped for Gooch vs Norwich (especially with Hoever going away with the Dutch u21’s) Yes it is. He’s been shit for most of the time he’s been here. His crossing is poor and he scores the odd goal which is great but who cares? He’s a full back. The bread and butter should be defending. Why we ever got him again is beyond me.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 4, 2023 23:16:49 GMT
It’s literally the only argument they have 😂 He’s absolute dogshit. I don’t think he’s dogshit is he? Why have you logged on to the oatcake at midnight to slag off your least favourite player? Bit sad. He absolutely is. What’s it got to with you? Bit sad.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 4, 2023 23:30:38 GMT
He is a dogshit defender to he fair.
We don't have good enough central defenders for this guy to play regularly.
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Hoever!
Sept 5, 2023 0:34:04 GMT
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 5, 2023 0:34:04 GMT
I don’t think he’s dogshit is he? Why have you logged on to the oatcake at midnight to slag off your least favourite player? Bit sad. He absolutely is. What’s it got to with you? Bit sad. I thought you didn’t drink mate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 5, 2023 0:36:42 GMT
He absolutely is. What’s it got to with you? Bit sad. I thought you didn’t drink mate. Jesus wept is that the best you’ve got. How dull.
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Hoever!
Sept 5, 2023 7:10:35 GMT
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 5, 2023 7:10:35 GMT
I thought you didn’t drink mate. Jesus wept is that the best you’ve got. How dull. Slurring your words.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2023 10:54:33 GMT
Okay , we don't have to do everything the way TP did .
But it is definitely true, that the no nonsense defending of Wilko and Dicko , played it's part in getting us promoted.
The game moves on, but the nature of the championship, means it's quite likely, we are going to need a couple of strong no nonsense full backs to get promotion . That's unlikely to change.
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Post by stoke1989 on Sept 5, 2023 11:02:41 GMT
I don't really dislike him, however, his goals have papered over the cracks massively I believe.
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Post by potterpanzera on Sept 5, 2023 14:59:46 GMT
Didn't seem quite with it vs Preston. Gooch definitely eclipsed (look forward to seeing more of him) but I'd say he still part of the progressive crop that appears to be accumulating. He appears to be one who is perhaps willing to learn from AN - Strong managerial presence championing young talent - & AN does have faith in him it seems as he's started aplenty which is always a healthy sign/ positive for the other youngsters.
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 5, 2023 17:54:50 GMT
Oh no, he’s gone from wonder kid to prick in 4 weeks on The Oatcake, nothing unusual there then.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 5, 2023 18:04:11 GMT
Oh no, he’s gone from wonder kid to prick in 4 weeks on The Oatcake, nothing unusual there then. He was never any good in the first place. That was the real problem.
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Hoever!
Sept 5, 2023 18:14:24 GMT
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 5, 2023 18:14:24 GMT
Oh no, he’s gone from wonder kid to prick in 4 weeks on The Oatcake, nothing unusual there then. Come on he’s been diabolical should be on bench at Norwich
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Sept 5, 2023 18:35:23 GMT
Oh no, he’s gone from wonder kid to prick in 4 weeks on The Oatcake, nothing unusual there then. Come on he’s been diabolical should be on bench at Norwich I don’t think he’s diabolical but I have to say Gooch, who I had never heard of, who looked looked nothing like a player when he came on, transformed us when he replaced him. He looked confident and positive, did simple stuff well. Healthy competition.
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Post by smallthorner on Sept 5, 2023 18:45:55 GMT
We need to persist with Hoever.
Norwich I would go wing backs.
Hoever Mcnally Wilmot Rose Junior
Burger Pearson
DJ
Vidigal Maeee
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Hoever!
Sept 5, 2023 18:48:13 GMT
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Post by wakeypotter on Sept 5, 2023 18:48:13 GMT
Come on he’s been diabolical should be on bench at Norwich I don’t think he’s diabolical but I have to say Gooch, who I had never heard of, who looked looked nothing like a player when he came on, transformed us when he replaced him. He looked confident and positive, did simple stuff well. Healthy competition. Agree with last part but when I have seen hoever he’s been terrible. Gooch was great when he came on, should start at Norwich
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