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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 26, 2024 10:08:48 GMT
One thing I will say is he plays in a similar position as Whittaker at Plymouth and he’s struggled previously n Schumacher worked wonders with him, Perhaps he feels he can do the same with Campbell, who knows🔴⚪️ Hmmm. Maybe. Hope you're right 👍
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Post by ParaPsych on Apr 26, 2024 10:10:03 GMT
Sorry to keep harping on but what do you think Fuller's record for us was? It was 43 in 182 appearances or 1 goal every 4.2 games. Not a whole lot better although in his defence he did play at least two thirds of those games in the Premier. Until this season though Campbell's scoring record hasn't been bad. But what I saw, last Saturday was a player whose confidence is completely shot. He would have scored at least two when he was full of confidence. If SS can get his confidence back up I think he's probably better than anyone we could sign. And yes I have thought he's looked totally ineffective this season but I have always said that hasn't been because he doesn't care for the club. In the Championship: Fuller: 204 Appearances, 52 Goals, 23 assists Campbell: 140 Appearances, 29 goals, 16 assists Fuller was a much better player imo. Fuller has scored 78 in 260 at Championship level. Have you missed out his Preston days, before it was called the Championship? It's a way better rate than Campbell's, and it's brought down somewhat by the 3 years he had in the Championship as an old man. If you take those 3 off it's 63 in 164. He's a stratospherically better player than Campbell. And even through goal scoring wasn't the main strength of his game, he was also a much much better goal scorer. I'm amazed this is even getting discussed.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Apr 26, 2024 10:29:14 GMT
Amazed but surely not surprised Para! Some people have selective memories or are probably too young to remember Ricardo in his pomp.
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Post by Los Alfareros on Apr 26, 2024 10:29:23 GMT
Ty is soooo much more effective coming in off the left or right hand hand side, he struggles at centre forward and it has been shown time and time again. I want him to stay, he has real pace, can beat a man and he has got the scoring touch albeit he has not fired this season. I would like to see him and Million on either side with a decent number 9 and Junho as the 10 behind. Lovely stuff.
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Post by acstokie on Apr 26, 2024 10:29:56 GMT
Sorry to keep harping on but what do you think Fuller's record for us was? It was 43 in 182 appearances or 1 goal every 4.2 games. Not a whole lot better although in his defence he did play at least two thirds of those games in the Premier. Until this season though Campbell's scoring record hasn't been bad. But what I saw, last Saturday was a player whose confidence is completely shot. He would have scored at least two when he was full of confidence. If SS can get his confidence back up I think he's probably better than anyone we could sign. And yes I have thought he's looked totally ineffective this season but I have always said that hasn't been because he doesn't care for the club. In the Championship: Fuller: 204 Appearances, 52 Goals, 23 assists Campbell: 140 Appearances, 29 goals, 16 assists Fuller was a much better player imo. Of course Fuller was way better but the stats here are misleading as if you break the minutes down to full 90 minutes, it would mean Fuller played 152 full games and Campbell 84. That makes the numbers fairly comparable.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 26, 2024 10:34:00 GMT
Tend to agree but this young hungry player term gets over used on here but no one seems to know who they are. The championship can be tough for young talent, is ok scoring goals in an U21 side for fun but no so easy against an experienced centre back at this level as Delap found out when he tried to tangle with them week after week. That's a fair point to be honest. I'm tempted to let Campbell go as I think he's not going to reach his potential after that injury. However I suppose there is a chance he'll eventually get up to speed. I could be convinced to offer him another deal if the terms were not daft.....maybe. Am changing my mind quicker than Feltz eats her next footlong Subway sandwich with extra Lurpak Can see an argument for both. At a push, let him go
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 26, 2024 10:37:12 GMT
That's a fair point to be honest. I'm tempted to let Campbell go as I think he's not going to reach his potential after that injury. However I suppose there is a chance he'll eventually get up to speed. I could be convinced to offer him another deal if the terms were not daft.....maybe. Am changing my mind quicker than Feltz eats her next footlong Subway sandwich with extra Lurpak Can see an argument for both. At a push, let him go Fuck it, keep him. Mostly so he doesn't tip up at the Brit with some other team and stick a hat trick past us a la Peter Thorne style. Campbell cupping his ears in front of the Boothen end would be way more than I could take 😆
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 26, 2024 10:40:03 GMT
Am changing my mind quicker than Feltz eats her next footlong Subway sandwich with extra Lurpak Can see an argument for both. At a push, let him go Fuck it, keep him. Mostly so he doesn't tip up at the Brit with some other team and stick a hat trick past us a la Peter Thorne style. Campbell cupping his ears in front of the Boothen end would be way more than I could take 😆 Am starting to think that way... not the hat trick bit as he'd be too tired to cup his ear after 63 minutes
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Post by anchorman on Apr 26, 2024 10:41:17 GMT
In the Championship: Fuller: 204 Appearances, 52 Goals, 23 assists Campbell: 140 Appearances, 29 goals, 16 assists Fuller was a much better player imo. Fuller has scored 78 in 260 at Championship level. Have you missed out his Preston days, before it was called the Championship? It's a way better rate than Campbell's, and it's brought down somewhat by the 3 years he had in the Championship as an old man. If you take those 3 off it's 63 in 164. He's a stratospherically better player than Campbell. And even through goal scoring wasn't the main strength of his game, he was also a much much better goal scorer. I'm amazed this is even getting discussed. I’ve said for a while now that Campbell should be made to watch footage of Ric to educate him about what City’s No10 should be. No discussion to be had But hopefully there is in the future.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 26, 2024 10:51:44 GMT
He had 7 goals and 7 assists in 19 appearances before his injury. He looked a real player. Newcastle apparently gearing up a £25m bid in the Jan window. He then spent the best part of a year on the sidelines. He's been back for just over 2 years now with lots of niggling injuries. He hasn't performed in that period, but who has? We have been shit to a man. He has in that time been the only player with a bit of a spark about him. Someone who can do something. Has it worked? No. But he's 24. He's absolutely worth a 2 year deal. Get him back to his 2020 form and we are laughing. Nothing to suggest he is a total write off yet. On that logic we should be giving Wesley more time. Get him back to his 2019 form and we are laughing. Age is against Wes getting back.
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 26, 2024 11:33:41 GMT
Arnie was 3 times the player Fuller was n I loved Fuller🔴⚪️ True or not you just can't say that. Wash thee mouth out yee heathen 😆 😂😂😂 ooooh I’m expecting get lynched🔴⚪️
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Post by nott1 on Apr 26, 2024 11:36:30 GMT
I hope he bucks his ideas up and he becomes a good player......won't be holding my breath for much longer it's already been 10 years and theoretically I'm already dead!
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 26, 2024 12:24:16 GMT
I hope he bucks his ideas up and he becomes a good player......won't be holding my breath for much longer it's already been 10 years and theoretically I'm already dead! 😂😂😂
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Apr 26, 2024 14:03:44 GMT
Ty is soooo much more effective coming in off the left or right hand hand side, he struggles at centre forward and it has been shown time and time again. I want him to stay, he has real pace, can beat a man and he has got the scoring touch albeit he has not fired this season. I would like to see him and Million on either side with a decent number 9 and Junho as the 10 behind. Lovely stuff. There was an article a couple of months back that said Campbell told Schumacher his favoured position was as a central striker and that's how Schumacher was going to play him the rest of the season. You are right in that he scores more goals cutting in from the side but he just doesn't contribute to the team in the same way others do who are playing in that position. Campbell's main strength is finishing so I can see why Schumacher has given him a position where he only has one job. Problem is he isn't got the movement or physical presence to be that effective. As to building a game plan to accommodate a particular player that's really park football where you happen to have a player in a different class to everyone else in the league. Campbell really isn't in that category.
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Post by a on Apr 26, 2024 14:14:33 GMT
In the Championship: Fuller: 204 Appearances, 52 Goals, 23 assists Campbell: 140 Appearances, 29 goals, 16 assists Fuller was a much better player imo. Fuller has scored 78 in 260 at Championship level. Have you missed out his Preston days, before it was called the Championship? It's a way better rate than Campbell's, and it's brought down somewhat by the 3 years he had in the Championship as an old man. If you take those 3 off it's 63 in 164. He's a stratospherically better player than Campbell. And even through goal scoring wasn't the main strength of his game, he was also a much much better goal scorer. I'm amazed this is even getting discussed. Yes sorry it’s only ‘championship’ stats, you’re completely right, his record including Preston is better still
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Post by a on Apr 26, 2024 14:15:14 GMT
On that logic we should be giving Wesley more time. Get him back to his 2019 form and we are laughing. Age is against Wes getting back. 27 isn’t old though. Also depends on the type and severity of the injury.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 26, 2024 14:19:52 GMT
In the Championship: Fuller: 204 Appearances, 52 Goals, 23 assists Campbell: 140 Appearances, 29 goals, 16 assists Fuller was a much better player imo. Fuller has scored 78 in 260 at Championship level. Have you missed out his Preston days, before it was called the Championship? It's a way better rate than Campbell's, and it's brought down somewhat by the 3 years he had in the Championship as an old man. If you take those 3 off it's 63 in 164. He's a stratospherically better player than Campbell. And even through goal scoring wasn't the main strength of his game, he was also a much much better goal scorer. I'm amazed this is even getting discussed. Comparing any of our current players to Ricardo fuller is blasphemous and should result in the harshest of consequences.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 26, 2024 14:26:36 GMT
If he does sign, there needs to be some serious fitness work done over the summer.
I don't buy these accusations that Campbell is lazy, but what I do find bizarre is just how much he's blowing out of his arse after a couple of explosive runs in a short space of time. I don't know if he's done too much upper body work in the gym or what, but we need him playing 90 minutes week in week out when called upon and to be in the game and not doing the double teapot on the halfway line.......
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Post by RF10 on Apr 26, 2024 14:37:23 GMT
Am I imagining things or is Campbell being compared to Ricardo? You'd find a closer match comparing Pericard to Zlatan.
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 26, 2024 14:39:04 GMT
Comparing Campbell to Ricardo is like comparing a Dacia to a Rolls Royce...!
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 26, 2024 14:45:19 GMT
Fuller on his day was an attack on his own, we haven't seen many players like him since. Arnie possibly the closest one I think. Arnie was 3 times the player Fuller was n I loved Fuller🔴⚪️ I loved Arnie, but Fuller had this magic like nobody else in our kit for the last 30 years in my opinon!
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Post by anchorman on Apr 26, 2024 15:04:10 GMT
Age is against Wes getting back. 27 isn’t old though. Also depends on the type and severity of the injury. Talking to a physio re TC’s injury and it can take 3?years apparently to get back to where you were pre injury. That said, he also thinks Tye is overweight & unfit…plenty of work to do in the summer!
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Post by skiptomylou on Apr 26, 2024 16:52:10 GMT
I'm probably in the minority here but I'd try playing Campbell ( if he stays ) at No9 with a 3 of bae, mmaee ( if he stays too ) million as the 3 behind.
I think mmaee is more intelligent, football wise, than people give him credit for.
The problem is can we press well enough with Campbell and mmaee in the same team?
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Post by thornestein on Apr 26, 2024 16:55:20 GMT
I'm probably in the minority here but I'd try playing Campbell ( if he stays ) at No9 with a 3 of bae, mmaee ( if he stays too ) million as the 3 behind. I think mmaee is more intelligent, football wise, than people give him credit for. The problem is can we press well enough with Campbell and mmaee in the same team? that sounds awful front 4 🤦♂️
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Post by stantheman on Apr 26, 2024 17:10:56 GMT
34 career goals for us in 162 games (1 goal every 4.8 games). Never the same player after his injury because he lost his only asset….his pace. Time to move on and find someone better Sorry to keep harping on but what do you think Fuller's record for us was? It was 43 in 182 appearances or 1 goal every 4.2 games. Not a whole lot better although in his defence he did play at least two thirds of those games in the Premier. Until this season though Campbell's scoring record hasn't been bad. But what I saw, last Saturday was a player whose confidence is completely shot. He would have scored at least two when he was full of confidence. If SS can get his confidence back up I think he's probably better than anyone we could sign. And yes I have thought he's looked totally ineffective this season but I have always said that hasn't been because he doesn't care for the club. RF10 and Campbell shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence......
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Post by stokief on Apr 26, 2024 17:59:34 GMT
Ric was the true Maverick and although I'm sure he was terribly frustrating sometimes you knew and so did the team and management that he could conjur something special from nothing. As I thnk, Liam Lawrence once said something like you never really knew what Ric was going to do next and neither did Ric half the time until he did it but you forgave him the foibles because of what he could do. I like Ty and think he could be re-ignited played in the right way and with encouragement and don't mind if he stays at all..but Ric he aint
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Post by a on Apr 26, 2024 19:23:06 GMT
Sorry to keep harping on but what do you think Fuller's record for us was? It was 43 in 182 appearances or 1 goal every 4.2 games. Not a whole lot better although in his defence he did play at least two thirds of those games in the Premier. Until this season though Campbell's scoring record hasn't been bad. But what I saw, last Saturday was a player whose confidence is completely shot. He would have scored at least two when he was full of confidence. If SS can get his confidence back up I think he's probably better than anyone we could sign. And yes I have thought he's looked totally ineffective this season but I have always said that hasn't been because he doesn't care for the club. RF10 and Campbell shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence...... Unless the sentence is “what I’d give to swap Campbell for prime Fuller!”
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 26, 2024 19:56:10 GMT
Fuller has scored 78 in 260 at Championship level. Have you missed out his Preston days, before it was called the Championship? It's a way better rate than Campbell's, and it's brought down somewhat by the 3 years he had in the Championship as an old man. If you take those 3 off it's 63 in 164. He's a stratospherically better player than Campbell. And even through goal scoring wasn't the main strength of his game, he was also a much much better goal scorer. I'm amazed this is even getting discussed. Comparing any of our current players to Ricardo fuller is blasphemous and should result in the harshest of consequences. Let alone one who has scored 1 in 21 and can't trap a fart.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 26, 2024 19:58:51 GMT
If he does sign, there needs to be some serious fitness work done over the summer. I don't buy these accusations that Campbell is lazy, but what I do find bizarre is just how much he's blowing out of his arse after a couple of explosive runs in a short space of time. I don't know if he's done too much upper body work in the gym or what, but we need him playing 90 minutes week in week out when called upon and to be in the game and not doing the double teapot on the halfway line....... So once we've sorted out his fitness, how do we go about making him a competent footballer who can consistently perform in the Championship with skill, creativity, ball control and goals?
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Post by lordb on Apr 26, 2024 20:47:25 GMT
If he does sign, there needs to be some serious fitness work done over the summer. I don't buy these accusations that Campbell is lazy, but what I do find bizarre is just how much he's blowing out of his arse after a couple of explosive runs in a short space of time. I don't know if he's done too much upper body work in the gym or what, but we need him playing 90 minutes week in week out when called upon and to be in the game and not doing the double teapot on the halfway line....... So once we've sorted out his fitness, how do we go about making him a competent footballer who can consistently perform in the Championship with skill, creativity, ball control and goals? Play him down the middle make chances He sure owes us some goals but he's got it in him to do miles better than this season 10+ league goals, he can get that
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