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Post by bertiestan on Aug 24, 2023 14:02:42 GMT
Watched the first two episodes last night...gifton is a bit of a diamond really..top man!!!
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Post by HarryTheHat on Aug 24, 2023 17:14:11 GMT
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Post by potterpanzera on Aug 25, 2023 8:02:27 GMT
Watched the first two episodes last night...gifton is a bit of a diamond really..top man!!! He's a softy. Never actually realised the extent of his injury. Glad we got two good seasons from him.
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Post by newsteadst3 on Aug 25, 2023 11:28:45 GMT
Watched the first two episodes last night...gifton is a bit of a diamond really..top man!!! He's a softy. Never actually realised the extent of his injury. Glad we got two good seasons from him. Yeah he did alright I thought, did better for us than some of those just before him or around that time, ie Tommy Mooney ,Mark Goodfellow, Paul Connor and Lighthorne.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 25, 2023 11:59:11 GMT
Binge watched the whole series last night. Enjoyable, easy watching and interesting. It’s advertised as Series 1, will there be more?
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 31, 2023 16:17:40 GMT
Having finished this series now I can only say how happy I'd be if we offered Gifton a role in the youth set-up. The way he communicates with the young men on this series is brilliant- firm when he needs to be, but really approachable as well.
Comes across as a genuine, lovely bloke who wants all the young lads he works with to do well.
Without giving any spoilers away, what this show also highlights is just how hard it is to break into the professional game once you get over a certain age. A lot of the players on the show are early 20s and would probably be better off getting a job, going into semi-pro football and trying to work their way back into the professional game that way rather than chasing a dream that, for most, will simply never happen.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 31, 2023 16:53:58 GMT
He was in the corporates at Burnley last season (think they get players in who’ve played for both). Didnt speak to him personally but he seemed a decent fella. Didnt seem too interested in the game mind
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 5, 2023 22:39:21 GMT
Binge watched the whole series last night. Enjoyable, easy watching and interesting. It’s advertised as Series 1, will there be more? I agree. I was fascinated by the whole series, and would recommend it to any football fan. GNW comes over very well. One of the lads was also discarded by Stoke. You can catch it all on i-player.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 5, 2023 22:44:48 GMT
Having finished this series now I can only say how happy I'd be if we offered Gifton a role in the youth set-up. The way he communicates with the young men on this series is brilliant- firm when he needs to be, but really approachable as well. Comes across as a genuine, lovely bloke who wants all the young lads he works with to do well. Without giving any spoilers away, what this show also highlights is just how hard it is to break into the professional game once you get over a certain age. A lot of the players on the show are early 20s and would probably be better off getting a job, going into semi-pro football and trying to work their way back into the professional game that way rather than chasing a dream that, for most, will simply never happen. All of them had been either pro footballers or were discarded by academies. So they were living the dream and had it taken away - sometimes due to their own failings. You can understand their desire, even determination, to get back, and GNWs camp must have seemed a great opportunity to do so.
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Post by potterpanzera on Sept 6, 2023 7:30:54 GMT
Binge watched the whole series last night. Enjoyable, easy watching and interesting. It’s advertised as Series 1, will there be more? I agree. I was fascinated by the whole series, and would recommend it to any football fan. GNW comes over very well. One of the lads was also discarded by Stoke. You can catch it all on i-player. I thought the Matlock offer seemed pretty good. Certainly surprised at how much potential interest Gifton and the programme team managed to generate for all the players. Hopefully they get another season.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Sept 6, 2023 8:10:24 GMT
Anyone recall him playing in a front three with Asaba and Akinbiyi away at Cov? Classic TP set up.
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Post by potterpanzera on Sept 6, 2023 8:41:23 GMT
Anyone recall him playing in a front three with Asaba and Akinbiyi away at Cov? Classic TP set up. Seen a few clips featuring Akinbiyi recently & I had forgotten how proficient he was with his feet despite being known for his physical presence. Always happy to see a player who enjoys holding up play, leaning into defenders. Wesley perhaps resuming the role.
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Sept 6, 2023 11:57:26 GMT
Having finished this series now I can only say how happy I'd be if we offered Gifton a role in the youth set-up. The way he communicates with the young men on this series is brilliant- firm when he needs to be, but really approachable as well. Comes across as a genuine, lovely bloke who wants all the young lads he works with to do well. Without giving any spoilers away, what this show also highlights is just how hard it is to break into the professional game once you get over a certain age. A lot of the players on the show are early 20s and would probably be better off getting a job, going into semi-pro football and trying to work their way back into the professional game that way rather than chasing a dream that, for most, will simply never happen. I fully intend watching the series, but just curious - has GNW's set-up got some kind of promised route back to pro-football for anyone who's successful or is it just reliant on its own success? In other words, what's the incentive for some of the players that attend it - or is it just another roll of the dice?
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 6, 2023 18:34:37 GMT
Having finished this series now I can only say how happy I'd be if we offered Gifton a role in the youth set-up. The way he communicates with the young men on this series is brilliant- firm when he needs to be, but really approachable as well. Comes across as a genuine, lovely bloke who wants all the young lads he works with to do well. Without giving any spoilers away, what this show also highlights is just how hard it is to break into the professional game once you get over a certain age. A lot of the players on the show are early 20s and would probably be better off getting a job, going into semi-pro football and trying to work their way back into the professional game that way rather than chasing a dream that, for most, will simply never happen. I fully intend watching the series, but just curious - has GNW's set-up got some kind of promised route back to pro-football for anyone who's successful or is it just reliant on its own success? In other words, what's the incentive for some of the players that attend it - or is it just another roll of the dice? No promises at all. They played 7 games in the month, which were watched by scouts from pro clubs. If the scouts liked what they saw, players were offered a trial or in a couple of cases a contract. The incentive was that they were watched by scouts - at least those that were selected to play by GNW or were on the bench and came on, were. It was competitive and getting into the team on the pitch was the first necessity. Many of them saw it as their last opportunity to get back into the pro game.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 6, 2023 20:13:06 GMT
Just watching it now. Gifton comes across brilliantly.
Noticed he manages Real Kashmir in India. Hes unbeaten in his 8 games.
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Post by cvillestokie on Sept 6, 2023 22:05:03 GMT
I fully intend watching the series, but just curious - has GNW's set-up got some kind of promised route back to pro-football for anyone who's successful or is it just reliant on its own success? In other words, what's the incentive for some of the players that attend it - or is it just another roll of the dice? No promises at all. They played 7 games in the month, which were watched by scouts from pro clubs. If the scouts liked what they saw, players were offered a trial or in a couple of cases a contract. The incentive was that they were watched by scouts - at least those that were selected to play by GNW or were on the bench and came on, were. It was competitive and getting into the team on the pitch was the first necessity. Many of them saw it as their last opportunity to get back into the pro game. Most teams have an U21’s system etc. Can a player that’s fallen out of one not simply badger every single U21s academy for a trial on a weekly basis until someone gives them a shot?
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 6, 2023 22:14:06 GMT
No promises at all. They played 7 games in the month, which were watched by scouts from pro clubs. If the scouts liked what they saw, players were offered a trial or in a couple of cases a contract. The incentive was that they were watched by scouts - at least those that were selected to play by GNW or were on the bench and came on, were. It was competitive and getting into the team on the pitch was the first necessity. Many of them saw it as their last opportunity to get back into the pro game. Most teams have an U21’s system etc. Can a player who’s fell out of one not simply badger every single U21s academy for a trial on a weekly basis until someone gives them a shot? I'm no expert but it does seem very competitive and I wouldn't be surprised if they all get large numbers of such approaches. If a player gets GNW's support it must be a very big help. Also, he helped them to identify and tackle the problems and issues which led them to be discarded in the first place. I agree with others that he looks really good at doing that.
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