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Post by musik on Aug 20, 2023 12:12:24 GMT
Nations League for Women football coming up, it starts next month.
In England's group England, Belgium, The Netherlands and Scotland.
In Sweden's group Italy, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland.
Since you have to WIN the group to have a chance to reach the football tournament in the Olympics in Paris in France in 2024, you realise how many nations being left out next summer.
Sweden against Spain 22nd Sep 🇸🇪
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 20, 2023 12:34:36 GMT
Surely England can’t play in the Olympics?
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Post by musik on Aug 20, 2023 12:40:29 GMT
Surely England can’t play in the Olympics? They just mumbled something during the crowd noise about that, didn't hear what ... Hmm. If not, then the Nations League won't mean much to England, I guess. Practically nothing at stake. 🤔 |
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Post by Gaz on Aug 21, 2023 19:03:20 GMT
They were discussing this before the World Cup finals and it seems that the UEFA Women's Nations League is the qualifying tournament for the 2024 Olympics, with the finalists qualifying, as well as France as hosts.
But as England, Scotland and Wales are not IOC members, Team GB will qualify if England make it to the final, whatever happens to Scotland and Wales. A bit iffy when Team GB won't be the same team that qualifies - unless Helge picks the England team lock stock and barrel.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 21, 2023 19:04:58 GMT
They were discussing this before the World Cup finals and it seem that the UEFA Women's Nations League is the qualifying tournament for the 2024 Olympics, with the finalists qualifying, as well as France as hosts. But as England, Scotland and Wales are not IOC members, Team GB will qualify if England make it to the final, whatever happens to Scotland and Wales. A bit iffy when Team GB won't be the same team that qualifies - unless Helge picks the England team lock stock and barrel. Let’s face it, just like the men’s side, no one is picking from those shithole backwater countries any time soon unless a quota needs filling😉 |
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Post by Robo10 on Aug 21, 2023 19:08:06 GMT
They were discussing this before the World Cup finals and it seems that the UEFA Women's Nations League is the qualifying tournament for the 2024 Olympics, with the finalists qualifying, as well as France as hosts. But as England, Scotland and Wales are not IOC members, Team GB will qualify if England make it to the final, whatever happens to Scotland and Wales. A bit iffy when Team GB won't be the same team that qualifies - unless Helge picks the England team lock stock and barrel. I never understand why they dont do have a home nations quali tournament for mens and womens olympics U23s mens and full womens Eng/Sco/Wal/NI round robin, top teams represent Team GB at the tournament. (Would in most cases be England you would think but shocks do happen) |
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Post by noustie on Aug 21, 2023 19:14:34 GMT
Think it works as qualification for the Euros too - some bat shit mental playoff format awaits.
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Post by Gaz on Aug 21, 2023 19:19:44 GMT
I never understand why they dont do have a home nations quali tournament for mens and womens olympics U23s mens and full womens Eng/Sco/Wal/NI round robin, top teams represent Team GB at the tournament. (Would in most cases be England you would think but shocks do happen) I'd actually be in favour of that over the Olympic footie itself. Grew up with the Home Internationals. |
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Post by musik on Aug 21, 2023 22:44:49 GMT
They were discussing this before the World Cup finals and it seems that the UEFA Women's Nations League is the qualifying tournament for the 2024 Olympics, with the finalists qualifying, as well as France as hosts. But as England, Scotland and Wales are not IOC members, Team GB will qualify if England make it to the final, whatever happens to Scotland and Wales. A bit iffy when Team GB won't be the same team that qualifies - unless Helge picks the England team lock stock and barrel. So Spain are qualified. Lucky for Sweden. 👍 |
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Post by Veritas on Aug 22, 2023 8:07:58 GMT
I never understand why they dont do have a home nations quali tournament for mens and womens olympics U23s mens and full womens Eng/Sco/Wal/NI round robin, top teams represent Team GB at the tournament. (Would in most cases be England you would think but shocks do happen) I'd actually be in favour of that over the Olympic footie itself. Grew up with the Home Internationals. I also grew up with the home internationals and they were mostly crap. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 22, 2023 8:10:41 GMT
I'd actually be in favour of that over the Olympic footie itself. Grew up with the Home Internationals. I also grew up with the home internationals and they were mostly crap. They really were, yes. Those who go on re Harry Kane scoring v poor opposition should look at the amount of Jimmy Greaves goals in the Home Internationals, a high %age of them. |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 22, 2023 8:18:33 GMT
They were discussing this before the World Cup finals and it seems that the UEFA Women's Nations League is the qualifying tournament for the 2024 Olympics, with the finalists qualifying, as well as France as hosts. But as England, Scotland and Wales are not IOC members, Team GB will qualify if England make it to the final, whatever happens to Scotland and Wales. A bit iffy when Team GB won't be the same team that qualifies - unless Helge picks the England team lock stock and barrel. I never understand why they dont do have a home nations quali tournament for mens and womens olympics U23s mens and full womens Eng/Sco/Wal/NI round robin, top teams represent Team GB at the tournament. (Would in most cases be England you would think but shocks do happen) Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have historically been reluctant to do anything which might bring into question their status as independent football nations and their privileged status on the International Board |
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 22, 2023 8:22:03 GMT
I also grew up with the home internationals and they were mostly crap. They really were, yes. Those who go on re Harry Kane scoring v poor opposition should look at the amount of Jimmy Greaves goals in the Home Internationals, a high %age of them. But they also look at Greaves’ stats before he became ill in 1965. Up until that point his scoring rates in all competitions were (and still are) up with the best of all time. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Aug 22, 2023 8:33:19 GMT
They really were, yes. Those who go on re Harry Kane scoring v poor opposition should look at the amount of Jimmy Greaves goals in the Home Internationals, a high %age of them. But they also look at Greaves’ stats before he became ill in 1965. Up until that point his scoring rates in all competitions were (and still are) up with the best of all time. For sure but this cliche that England only played top opposition then and Kane scored v poor nations we often hear. No doubting Greaves was an incredible goalscorer also |
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Post by Robo10 on Aug 22, 2023 8:52:56 GMT
I never understand why they dont do have a home nations quali tournament for mens and womens olympics U23s mens and full womens Eng/Sco/Wal/NI round robin, top teams represent Team GB at the tournament. (Would in most cases be England you would think but shocks do happen) Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have historically been reluctant to do anything which might bring into question their status as independent football nations and their privileged status on the International Board Thats why you have a tournament to determine who goes to the 'finals' - all independent, no discussion on 'mixed' mens teams that may weaken the home countries positions on the IFAB and UEFA/FIFA boards (which is the main opposition/fear of a TeamGB side) - I think currently the home nations occupy about 4 of the 8 seats on the IFAB board (which I am sure must irritate other countries) - FIFA has the other 4 (Home nations therefore get 4 votes, and FIFA has 4 votes - its quite protectionist/outdated!) As long as its clear (ie ENGLAND u23s are representing TEAM GB as winners of the home nations tournament) then I dont see an issue Mixing the (mens) teams up has all sorts of football politics at its core - but somehow they dont seem arsed about the women doing it. Be the same male dominated old protectionist money spinner/expenses racquet as other organising committees...(allegedly) |
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Post by noustie on Aug 22, 2023 10:05:12 GMT
I never understand why they dont do have a home nations quali tournament for mens and womens olympics U23s mens and full womens Eng/Sco/Wal/NI round robin, top teams represent Team GB at the tournament. (Would in most cases be England you would think but shocks do happen) Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have historically been reluctant to do anything which might bring into question their status as independent football nations and their privileged status on the International Board To be honest mate it really pisses me off now. There’ll be Scottish lads who want to play in it and Scottish lads who’re not really bothered but they accept the political fallout would be huge so leave that can of worms well alone. For some of them at u23 it could even be forgoing the biggest international competition they’ve a chance of qualifying for. In terms of the ladies I can understand Kim Little for the London Olympics given Scotland were pretty crap at that point nowhere near qualifying for stuff. Fast forward just 5 years though and we qualified for a Euros and a WC and really should be qualifying for at least the Euros going forward which are surely two competitions of higher ranking in the football world, for us anyway, than the Olympics. Plus if they want equality they can’t pick n choose surely – if the blokes can’t play in the Olympics then they can’t play in the Olympics surely especially when the Scottish players who’d even sniff a call-up are already professional or will be professional by then (Weir/Cuthbert/Watson). |
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Post by spiderpuss on Aug 22, 2023 10:24:15 GMT
Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have historically been reluctant to do anything which might bring into question their status as independent football nations and their privileged status on the International Board To be honest mate it really pisses me off now. There’ll be Scottish lads who want to play in it and Scottish lads who’re not really bothered but they accept the political fallout would be huge so leave that can of worms well alone. For some of them at u23 it could even be forgoing the biggest international competition they’ve a chance of qualifying for. In terms of the ladies I can understand Kim Little for the London Olympics given Scotland were pretty crap at that point nowhere near qualifying for stuff. Fast forward just 5 years though and we qualified for a Euros and a WC and really should be qualifying for at least the Euros going forward which are surely two competitions of higher ranking in the football world, for us anyway, than the Olympics. Plus if they want equality they can’t pick n choose surely – if the blokes can’t play in the Olympics then they can’t play in the Olympics surely especially when the Scottish players who’d even sniff a call-up are already professional or will be professional by then (Weir/Cuthbert/Watson). I view football at the Olympics a bit like the commonwealth games. It's a side line off-shoot thing that will probably be consigned to the bin eventually. |
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Post by noustie on Aug 22, 2023 11:02:46 GMT
To be honest mate it really pisses me off now. There’ll be Scottish lads who want to play in it and Scottish lads who’re not really bothered but they accept the political fallout would be huge so leave that can of worms well alone. For some of them at u23 it could even be forgoing the biggest international competition they’ve a chance of qualifying for. In terms of the ladies I can understand Kim Little for the London Olympics given Scotland were pretty crap at that point nowhere near qualifying for stuff. Fast forward just 5 years though and we qualified for a Euros and a WC and really should be qualifying for at least the Euros going forward which are surely two competitions of higher ranking in the football world, for us anyway, than the Olympics. Plus if they want equality they can’t pick n choose surely – if the blokes can’t play in the Olympics then they can’t play in the Olympics surely especially when the Scottish players who’d even sniff a call-up are already professional or will be professional by then (Weir/Cuthbert/Watson). I view football at the Olympics a bit like the commonwealth games. It's a side line off-shoot thing that will probably be consigned to the bin eventually. Football including the women now, tennis and golf should be nowhere near the Olympics for me and apart from Murray in 2012 haven't watched any of it - much prefer the niche events that get no coverage in-between really. |
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Post by Robo10 on Aug 22, 2023 11:21:15 GMT
I view football at the Olympics a bit like the commonwealth games. It's a side line off-shoot thing that will probably be consigned to the bin eventually. Football including the women now, tennis and golf should be nowhere near the Olympics for me and apart from Murray in 2012 haven't watched any of it - much prefer the niche events that get no coverage in-between really. Couldnt agree more. Basketball, Ice Hockey, Football, Tennis, Golf - all full of professionals taking the shine from lesser know (but equally ace) athletes Even Cycling to a degree is professional sports folk but we win a stack of golds in that so it can stay :-D I love watching the Archery, the Canoeing, Shooting, Track n Field, I remember watching the mixed triathlon relay at the last one, flicking it on meaning to watch for 5 mins and was still glued to the telly 90 mins later at 1am! |
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Post by noustie on Aug 22, 2023 11:31:28 GMT
Football including the women now, tennis and golf should be nowhere near the Olympics for me and apart from Murray in 2012 haven't watched any of it - much prefer the niche events that get no coverage in-between really. Couldnt agree more. Basketball, Ice Hockey, Football, Tennis, Golf - all full of professionals taking the shine from lesser know (but equally ace) athletes Even Cycling to a degree is professional sports folk but we win a stack of golds in that so it can stay :-D I love watching the Archery, the Canoeing, Shooting, Track n Field, I remember watching the mixed triathlon relay at the last one, flicking it on meaning to watch for 5 mins and was still glued to the telly 90 mins later at 1am! Think it was handball and speed climbing for me - absolutely mesmerized by both the blokes and women going up a wall quicker than Adam West's Batman even through theirs was vertical rather than horizontal! |
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