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Post by foster on Aug 18, 2023 10:09:13 GMT
So I just saw this article about a trans man-to-woman who's been banned from women's' Chess events. www.bbc.com/news/world-66538328I can understand that when a sport is physical that you should separate the males from the females, but when it's about intellect, such as Chess, then what's the reason for having separate categories? It's like separating men and women for Poker, Wordle or Sqword. It doesn't make sense, unless there is some evidence to suggest that Men are inherently more intelligent than women? Or that Woman are more intelligent than Men. |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 18, 2023 10:20:52 GMT
No idea.
However I do know that 'clevererer' isn't a word that would be acceptable from either a man or a woman in Scrabble.
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Post by flea79 on Aug 18, 2023 10:24:20 GMT
what a can of worms too open this is!
but i guess they maybe split them as the male and female brain process data and use logic in different ways due to hormones in the body
could be utter codswallop and im sure somebody much more intelligent and learned than me will tell me why what i have written is rubbish!
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Post by tuum on Aug 18, 2023 10:24:27 GMT
It does seem a strange decision. Is it to do with the fact that men and women have different skill sets. So, men have better logical, spatial reasoning skills but women are better at multi-tasking.
I know there was some discussions on this 20yrs ago but not sure if these ideas/theories have been debunked by now.
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Post by phileetin on Aug 18, 2023 10:47:05 GMT
Don't know if there are any women posting on the oatcake ? ( Seymoor Beaver perhaps ? ) but if not , it might be an indicator of their superior intellect .
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Post by gawa on Aug 18, 2023 10:50:47 GMT
Men
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 18, 2023 11:08:40 GMT
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Post by foster on Aug 18, 2023 11:12:49 GMT
No idea. However I do know that 'clevererer' isn't a word that would be acceptable from either a man or a woman in Scrabble. I think this is a whoosh mate  |
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Post by lordb on Aug 18, 2023 11:24:09 GMT
Don't know but do know who is right
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Post by elystokie on Aug 18, 2023 11:28:04 GMT
So I just saw this article about a trans man-to-woman who's been banned from women's' Chess events. www.bbc.com/news/world-66538328I can understand that when a sport is physical that you should separate the males from the females, but when it's about intellect, such as Chess, then what's the reason for having separate categories? It's like separating men and women for Poker, Wordle or Sqword. It doesn't make sense, unless there is some evidence to suggest that Men are inherently more intelligent than women? Or that Woman are more intelligent than Men. I sometimes wish they would separate men and women in poker, devious buggers often wear low cut tops which can be a distinct advantage! 😃 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2023 11:32:17 GMT
I’m confused by this and am curious to hear the reasoning behind the decision.
For me it’s pretty fucking clear that biological men have no place in women’s sport.
However, surely games like chess/poker that have 0 athletic element should be open to anyone of any gender/gender identity?
I know in poker they have womens’ events at the WSOP, but they are womens’ events in name only. Men are still allowed to enter (and some do especially people chasing ranking points for player of the series, or protesting a “womens’ only” event) there’s no official restriction on entry. The idea is that it provides a less intimidating atmosphere for women to play a live tournament, and IIRC there were plenty of female poker pros supporting the men entering the ladies’ tournament.
Maybe it’s a similar idea with womens’ events in chess? But it should be the same as poker where it’s in name only, therefore anyone can play in actuality.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 18, 2023 11:36:35 GMT
Men usually
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Post by noustie on Aug 18, 2023 12:18:43 GMT
Chess would be a completely different game if you could suddenly say your King was now identifying as a Queen and could suddenly fuck off diagonally to the other side of the board.
Don't think it matters if you've a cock or vadge to be good at chess but how much fish you eat - Iceland are fucking mint at both!
Would imagine it must be pretty intimidating sitting one v one especially depending how it's hosted - are they online games, do you agree to play at a certain time/place in early rounds, etc. If women think it'll increase participation if they're afforded a female only tournament then that should be respected. Just open up a third open section or just have the blokes as open as that's where the money will be anyway.
Chess Grandmasters apparently get USD2,500-USD3,500 a month so obviously not that fucking clever or they'd have learnt to become a plumber and charge a fucking fortune for 'homers'
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 18, 2023 12:45:46 GMT
Don't know but do know who is right 😎 |
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Post by werrington on Aug 18, 2023 12:48:32 GMT
I spend a fortune watching Stoke and the wife doesn’t
The answer is in there somewhere 😊
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Post by swampmongrel on Aug 18, 2023 13:10:07 GMT
Think men are more likely to have the personality type that means they’re able and willing to obsess over things like chess poker etc.
I think women, generally, can’t be arsed/are busy doing better more interesting things.
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Post by swampmongrel on Aug 18, 2023 13:11:31 GMT
Think men are more likely to have the personality type that means they’re able and willing to obsess over things like chess poker etc. I think women, generally, can’t be arsed/are busy doing better more interesting things. Check rates of diagnoses for autism between the sexes. |
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Post by musik on Aug 18, 2023 16:02:10 GMT
There is always a difference. You can practically look anywhere on the body, so why shouldn't the brain be different too?
Thank God for the differences!
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 18, 2023 19:17:45 GMT
There's no logic to this strange decision. It stinks of idiots jumping on the homophobic/gender identity bandwagon. There's no doubt that women's brains are different but it doesn't seem to stop some women from running large multinational companies and many other things that require the same skill sets that men have... pilots of highly complicated fighter planes and commercial aircraft for instance. One thing is certain; women know how men's brains work but men haven't got a clue how a woman's does.  OS. |
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Post by andystokey on Aug 18, 2023 19:22:33 GMT
So I just saw this article about a trans man-to-woman who's been banned from women's' Chess events. www.bbc.com/news/world-66538328I can understand that when a sport is physical that you should separate the males from the females, but when it's about intellect, such as Chess, then what's the reason for having separate categories? It's like separating men and women for Poker, Wordle or Sqword. It doesn't make sense, unless there is some evidence to suggest that Men are inherently more intelligent than women? Or that Woman are more intelligent than Men. The serious answer is it's not separate. The world championship is open to both sexes. The Women's Championship is just a separate restricted entry event like a Juniors event. theconversation.com/why-theres-a-separate-world-chess-championship-for-women-129293 |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 18, 2023 19:48:16 GMT
Men, except on saturdays between 3 and 5pm 🤣🤣
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Aug 18, 2023 21:08:52 GMT
Women don't need to be more clever, they just need to wear a plunging neckline when sitting across from me.
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 19, 2023 8:12:04 GMT
Think men are more likely to have the personality type that means they’re able and willing to obsess over things like chess poker etc. I think women, generally, can’t be arsed/are busy doing better more interesting things. Check rates of diagnoses for autism between the sexes. But there are significant recent findings that show autism is missed in women and often not diagnosed until their teens/later. Perhaps it just goes undetected unlike in young boys? Is there a link between autism and chess ability? |
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Post by thevoid on Aug 19, 2023 8:36:06 GMT
Check rates of diagnoses for autism between the sexes. But there are significant recent findings that show autism is missed in women and often not diagnosed until their teens/later. Perhaps it just goes undetected unlike in young boys? Is there a link between autism and chess ability? Why don't you check, mate? |
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Post by marylandstoke on Aug 19, 2023 21:49:46 GMT
So I just saw this article about a trans man-to-woman who's been banned from women's' Chess events. www.bbc.com/news/world-66538328I can understand that when a sport is physical that you should separate the males from the females, but when it's about intellect, such as Chess, then what's the reason for having separate categories? It's like separating men and women for Poker, Wordle or Sqword. It doesn't make sense, unless there is some evidence to suggest that Men are inherently more intelligent than women? Or that Woman are more intelligent than Men. I sometimes wish they would separate men and women in poker, devious buggers often wear low cut tops which can be a distinct advantage! 😃 Play’ em at their own Ely. Rack those moobs out and make them ask if your bluffing. |
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Post by elystokie on Aug 19, 2023 21:57:49 GMT
I sometimes wish they would separate men and women in poker, devious buggers often wear low cut tops which can be a distinct advantage! 😃 Play’ em at their own Ely. Rack those moobs out and make them ask if your bluffing. I'm not sure it would have the same effect mate 😄 |
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