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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 12, 2023 19:33:52 GMT
Bayern look crap. Maybe no trophy for Kane after all. I still don't know why he went to Bayern, such a strange transfer. 2-0 Leipzig.
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Post by callas12 on Aug 13, 2023 8:38:42 GMT
Bayern look crap. Maybe no trophy for Kane after all. I still don't know why he went to Bayern, such a strange transfer. 2-0 Leipzig. Can only think Levy would only sanction a move if it was to a non Premier League Club & Bayern were the only ones who came in with reasonable terms for Kane & Levy. Saw Shearer sat Smug on MoTD last night realising his Prem scoring record will remain intact & unchallenged for some time to come yet! Huge void for Spurs to fill
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Post by jontimmis on Aug 13, 2023 9:16:11 GMT
It would be quite amusing if they didn’t win anything. Maybe he’s just jinxed.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 13, 2023 12:50:38 GMT
Bayern look crap. Maybe no trophy for Kane after all. I still don't know why he went to Bayern, such a strange transfer. 2-0 Leipzig. Can only think Levy would only sanction a move if it was to a non Premier League Club & Bayern were the only ones who came in with reasonable terms for Kane & Levy. Saw Shearer sat Smug on MoTD last night realising his Prem scoring record will remain intact & unchallenged for some time to come yet! Huge void for Spurs to fill I'm still hoping Kane returns and beats it. He definitely can do it, hopefully he doesn't stay at Bayern long.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Aug 13, 2023 12:52:03 GMT
Bayern look crap. Maybe no trophy for Kane after all. I still don't know why he went to Bayern, such a strange transfer. 2-0 Leipzig. I don't understand the confusion as to why he'd go to a massive European giant who will win trophies and possibly the biggest trophy in Europe too. Great money, great stadium, great teammates. Oh, he might not be able to break a record that is a bullshit fake record in the first place.
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Post by callas12 on Aug 13, 2023 13:15:08 GMT
Can only think Levy would only sanction a move if it was to a non Premier League Club & Bayern were the only ones who came in with reasonable terms for Kane & Levy. Saw Shearer sat Smug on MoTD last night realising his Prem scoring record will remain intact & unchallenged for some time to come yet! Huge void for Spurs to fill I'm still hoping Kane returns and beats it. He definitely can do it, hopefully he doesn't stay at Bayern long. Certainly dropped a big hint he'll be back at some point on his leaving interview didn't he. Be good see him at some stage & to knock the smile off Shearers face though
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 13, 2023 21:07:03 GMT
Bayern look crap. Maybe no trophy for Kane after all. I still don't know why he went to Bayern, such a strange transfer. 2-0 Leipzig. I don't understand the confusion as to why he'd go to a massive European giant who will win trophies and possibly the biggest trophy in Europe too. Great money, great stadium, great teammates. Oh, he might not be able to break a record that is a bullshit fake record in the first place. Winning the Bundesliga is not exactly a feat of strength when you play for Bayern Munich. After last nights showing I don't think the manager will even be around long enough for them to prepare for winning a Champions Leauge. Sure money is great, but when you've earned as much as him in your career then maybe it's a bit silly to go to a club at the peak of your powers because of that and the fact it's a nice stadium? (New Spurs stadium is better) Alan Shearers record is talked about more than the Bundesliga. Call it a "bullshit fake record" (which it isn't) but it's a far superior achievement than winning the league with Bayern.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 13, 2023 21:15:32 GMT
I don't understand the confusion as to why he'd go to a massive European giant who will win trophies and possibly the biggest trophy in Europe too. Great money, great stadium, great teammates. Oh, he might not be able to break a record that is a bullshit fake record in the first place. Winning the Bundesliga is not exactly a feat of strength when you play for Bayern Munich. After last nights showing I don't think the manager will even be around long enough for them to prepare for winning a Champions Leauge. Sure money is great, but when you've earned as much as him in your career then maybe it's a bit silly to go to a club at the peak of your powers because of that and the fact it's a nice stadium? (New Spurs stadium is better) Alan Shearers record is talked about more than the Bundesliga. Call it a "bullshit fake record" (which it isn't) but it's a far superior achievement than winning the league with Bayern. Is Shearer’s record spoken about outside of this country? Not much I’d imagine and it’s barely spoken about here and mainly is because he’s on the BBC and brings it up every two seconds.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 13, 2023 22:18:42 GMT
I don't understand the confusion as to why he'd go to a massive European giant who will win trophies and possibly the biggest trophy in Europe too. Great money, great stadium, great teammates. Oh, he might not be able to break a record that is a bullshit fake record in the first place. Winning the Bundesliga is not exactly a feat of strength when you play for Bayern Munich. After last nights showing I don't think the manager will even be around long enough for them to prepare for winning a Champions Leauge. Sure money is great, but when you've earned as much as him in your career then maybe it's a bit silly to go to a club at the peak of your powers because of that and the fact it's a nice stadium? (New Spurs stadium is better) Alan Shearers record is talked about more than the Bundesliga. Call it a "bullshit fake record" (which it isn't) but it's a far superior achievement than winning the league with Bayern. I think the attendance for the Leipzig pre-season game shows how little that is valued in Germany. Just over 50% of usual attendance. Let's see what happens when the proper stuff kicks in.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Aug 13, 2023 23:49:15 GMT
Bayern look crap. Maybe no trophy for Kane after all. I still don't know why he went to Bayern, such a strange transfer. 2-0 Leipzig. He's joining a team that have been in three Champions League quarter-finals in the last three seasons, and they will be pretty disappointed that they haven't gone further in that time. He's leaving a team that have been in three Champions League/European Cup quarter-finals since the inception of the European Cup in 1955. I've seen a few people bemused that he would leave Spurs for Bayern Munich, and I can't get my head around it. Measure the two teams by almost any marker that has any value in football (whether on or off the pitch) and Bayern are head and shoulders above Spurs.
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Post by idle on Aug 14, 2023 7:46:11 GMT
What? Isn't the DfB pokal kinda like the charity/community shield here? Who cares about that "trophy"? I'd rather win the autoglass!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 14, 2023 7:49:07 GMT
I don't understand the confusion as to why he'd go to a massive European giant who will win trophies and possibly the biggest trophy in Europe too. Great money, great stadium, great teammates. Oh, he might not be able to break a record that is a bullshit fake record in the first place. Winning the Bundesliga is not exactly a feat of strength when you play for Bayern Munich. After last nights showing I don't think the manager will even be around long enough for them to prepare for winning a Champions Leauge. Sure money is great, but when you've earned as much as him in your career then maybe it's a bit silly to go to a club at the peak of your powers because of that and the fact it's a nice stadium? (New Spurs stadium is better) Alan Shearers record is talked about more than the Bundesliga. Call it a "bullshit fake record" (which it isn't) but it's a far superior achievement than winning the league with Bayern. Sorry, are we really saying the 'football was invented in 1992' record is more relevant than playing for actual Bayern Munich, one of the biggest clubs in the world?
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Post by salopstick on Aug 14, 2023 8:11:38 GMT
Winning the Bundesliga is not exactly a feat of strength when you play for Bayern Munich. After last nights showing I don't think the manager will even be around long enough for them to prepare for winning a Champions Leauge. Sure money is great, but when you've earned as much as him in your career then maybe it's a bit silly to go to a club at the peak of your powers because of that and the fact it's a nice stadium? (New Spurs stadium is better) Alan Shearers record is talked about more than the Bundesliga. Call it a "bullshit fake record" (which it isn't) but it's a far superior achievement than winning the league with Bayern. Is Shearer’s record spoken about outside of this country? Not much I’d imagine and it’s barely spoken about here and mainly is because he’s on the BBC and brings it up every two seconds. you want to be your record league scorer in your own league. There was football before 1992 but it is still a good record to have. if he had stayed in the prem he had a good chance of getting close to greaves top flight record. As for shearer he would have loved a trophy with newcastle but i bet he prefers his goal record to his blackburn medal. When kane retires he will always be introduced as spurs/england record goal scorer not as a domestic league and cup winner in Germany
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Post by salopstick on Aug 14, 2023 8:13:26 GMT
Bayern look crap. Maybe no trophy for Kane after all. I still don't know why he went to Bayern, such a strange transfer. 2-0 Leipzig. He's joining a team that have been in three Champions League quarter-finals in the last three seasons, and they will be pretty disappointed that they haven't gone further in that time. He's leaving a team that have been in three Champions League/European Cup quarter-finals since the inception of the European Cup in 1955. I've seen a few people bemused that he would leave Spurs for Bayern Munich, and I can't get my head around it. Measure the two teams by almost any marker that has any value in football (whether on or off the pitch) and Bayern are head and shoulders above Spurs. there is not the suggestion that he stays at spurs long term but next summer he would have had much better options
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Aug 14, 2023 8:49:18 GMT
He's joining a team that have been in three Champions League quarter-finals in the last three seasons, and they will be pretty disappointed that they haven't gone further in that time. He's leaving a team that have been in three Champions League/European Cup quarter-finals since the inception of the European Cup in 1955. I've seen a few people bemused that he would leave Spurs for Bayern Munich, and I can't get my head around it. Measure the two teams by almost any marker that has any value in football (whether on or off the pitch) and Bayern are head and shoulders above Spurs. there is not the suggestion that he stays at spurs long term but next summer he would have had much better options Who are these much better options? Aside from Man City and Real Madrid, which other clubs give you a better chance of having a go at winning the Champions League in, say, the next three years? At a push I'd say you can include Liverpool in that list if you believe last season was a blip. Of course there's no guarantee of him winning it with Bayern, and I'm sure there'll be clubs outside these three that win it in that time period - but if you're giving yourself the best chance of winning a CL then I'd say there is only a couple of better options than Bayern. In terms of off-the-field issues, I'm not sure what his salary is supposed to be at Bayern but you're probably looking at about 10 clubs (+ Saudi Arabia) in world football that could match or offer Bayern's spending power (PSG, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle, Man City, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona + probably one or two others I'm forgetting about).
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Post by nott1 on Aug 14, 2023 8:56:40 GMT
Looking at the headline I thought he was playing Leipzig on his own!
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Post by salopstick on Aug 14, 2023 9:01:24 GMT
there is not the suggestion that he stays at spurs long term but next summer he would have had much better options Who are these much better options? Aside from Man City and Real Madrid, which other clubs give you a better chance of having a go at winning the Champions League in, say, the next three years? At a push I'd say you can include Liverpool in that list if you believe last season was a blip. Of course there's no guarantee of him winning it with Bayern, and I'm sure there'll be clubs outside these three that win it in that time period - but if you're giving yourself the best chance of winning a CL then I'd say there is only a couple of better options than Bayern. In terms of off-the-field issues, I'm not sure what his salary is supposed to be at Bayern but you're probably looking at about 10 clubs (+ Saudi Arabia) in world football that could match or offer Bayern's spending power (PSG, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle, Man City, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona + probably one or two others I'm forgetting about). teddy sheringham, berbatoc and RV Persie are testament to what older strikers can do and achieve at the shit. They are crying out for a kane Matt Le Tissier is regarded as a fabulous player scorer of lots of goals and brilliant goals at that his reputation doesnt suffer from the fact he stayed at southampton. I don't care how many goals he scores at Bayern or what domestic trophies he wins there the next 4 years will be judged purely on wether he wins the champions league, i think it hurts his legacy if they don't. If he moved to a top english club and didn't win a trophy he would still have his records to fall back on. The german league is not as competetive as spain or england, even Italy is more competetive. He's basically moved to a league like scotland only with more cash and a better european pedigree interesting you mention Newcastle. Eventually they will be able to meet FFP and start to spend. The players that win their inevitable first trophy since forever will become club legends. I don't like Howe but he has a good project on his hands there stalling a bit because the cabal of big clubs have made it difficult for new owners to spend big
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Aug 14, 2023 13:17:20 GMT
I don't understand the confusion as to why he'd go to a massive European giant who will win trophies and possibly the biggest trophy in Europe too. Great money, great stadium, great teammates. Oh, he might not be able to break a record that is a bullshit fake record in the first place. Winning the Bundesliga is not exactly a feat of strength when you play for Bayern Munich. After last nights showing I don't think the manager will even be around long enough for them to prepare for winning a Champions Leauge. Sure money is great, but when you've earned as much as him in your career then maybe it's a bit silly to go to a club at the peak of your powers because of that and the fact it's a nice stadium? (New Spurs stadium is better) Alan Shearers record is talked about more than the Bundesliga. Call it a "bullshit fake record" (which it isn't) but it's a far superior achievement than winning the league with Bayern. I agree that winning the league wouldn't be a great feat at Bayern. But is it a better feat than finishing 8th with Spurs... And yes, it is a bullshit record. Shearer is the 4th all time highest scorer in the top flight in England. Kane is 19th I believe. If you think it's okay to reset the clock on records whenever you fancy it then Shearer's "record" will simply be deleted at that time. I bey Greaves thought his record would be hard to beat, I doubt he imagined it would be deleted.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 14, 2023 14:41:30 GMT
Winning the Bundesliga is not exactly a feat of strength when you play for Bayern Munich. After last nights showing I don't think the manager will even be around long enough for them to prepare for winning a Champions Leauge. Sure money is great, but when you've earned as much as him in your career then maybe it's a bit silly to go to a club at the peak of your powers because of that and the fact it's a nice stadium? (New Spurs stadium is better) Alan Shearers record is talked about more than the Bundesliga. Call it a "bullshit fake record" (which it isn't) but it's a far superior achievement than winning the league with Bayern. I agree that winning the league wouldn't be a great feat at Bayern. But is it a better feat than finishing 8th with Spurs... And yes, it is a bullshit record. Shearer is the 4th all time highest scorer in the top flight in England. Kane is 19th I believe. If you think it's okay to reset the clock on records whenever you fancy it then Shearer's "record" will simply be deleted at that time. I bey Greaves thought his record would be hard to beat, I doubt he imagined it would be deleted. if kane had stayed he could get close to greaves
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Aug 14, 2023 15:52:27 GMT
I agree that winning the league wouldn't be a great feat at Bayern. But is it a better feat than finishing 8th with Spurs... And yes, it is a bullshit record. Shearer is the 4th all time highest scorer in the top flight in England. Kane is 19th I believe. If you think it's okay to reset the clock on records whenever you fancy it then Shearer's "record" will simply be deleted at that time. I bey Greaves thought his record would be hard to beat, I doubt he imagined it would be deleted. if kane had stayed he could get close to greaves I think he would have. And that would have been a record and a great achievement at that!
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Aug 14, 2023 15:59:09 GMT
Is Shearer’s record spoken about outside of this country? Not much I’d imagine and it’s barely spoken about here and mainly is because he’s on the BBC and brings it up every two seconds. you want to be your record league scorer in your own league. There was football before 1992 but it is still a good record to have. if he had stayed in the prem he had a good chance of getting close to greaves top flight record. As for shearer he would have loved a trophy with newcastle but i bet he prefers his goal record to his blackburn medal. When kane retires he will always be introduced as spurs/england record goal scorer not as a domestic league and cup winner in Germany He might not always be introduced as a record holder as records get broken. I'm sure he's very proud of his stats, rightly so, but for fans to think that winning trophies and playing in massive games doesn't mean a hell of a lot is just wrong. I think Kane would love to be introduced as "Champions League winner" if he gets that opportunity. I reckon Shearer is delighted that he has Newcastle's record AND a title medal.
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Post by leicspotter on Aug 14, 2023 17:30:22 GMT
Looking at the headline I thought he was playing Leipzig on his own! He'd wear them down by constantly telling them where they were going wrong
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 15, 2023 18:08:31 GMT
Winning the Bundesliga is not exactly a feat of strength when you play for Bayern Munich. After last nights showing I don't think the manager will even be around long enough for them to prepare for winning a Champions Leauge. Sure money is great, but when you've earned as much as him in your career then maybe it's a bit silly to go to a club at the peak of your powers because of that and the fact it's a nice stadium? (New Spurs stadium is better) Alan Shearers record is talked about more than the Bundesliga. Call it a "bullshit fake record" (which it isn't) but it's a far superior achievement than winning the league with Bayern. Is Shearer’s record spoken about outside of this country? Not much I’d imagine and it’s barely spoken about here and mainly is because he’s on the BBC and brings it up every two seconds. To be acknowledge as the leading goalscorer of any top league though surely is better than a league title?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 15, 2023 18:10:53 GMT
Bayern look crap. Maybe no trophy for Kane after all. I still don't know why he went to Bayern, such a strange transfer. 2-0 Leipzig. He's joining a team that have been in three Champions League quarter-finals in the last three seasons, and they will be pretty disappointed that they haven't gone further in that time. He's leaving a team that have been in three Champions League/European Cup quarter-finals since the inception of the European Cup in 1955. I've seen a few people bemused that he would leave Spurs for Bayern Munich, and I can't get my head around it. Measure the two teams by almost any marker that has any value in football (whether on or off the pitch) and Bayern are head and shoulders above Spurs. Nobody is saying that Bayern aren't a bigger club. It's just funny how when it comes to Harry Kane loyalty is never appreciated but stories of other players like Del Piero... Well "They don't make them like him anymore unfortunately!" Bayern is a bigger club, without question. But with Kanes circumstances it is surely the wrong club at this time.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 15, 2023 18:12:02 GMT
Winning the Bundesliga is not exactly a feat of strength when you play for Bayern Munich. After last nights showing I don't think the manager will even be around long enough for them to prepare for winning a Champions Leauge. Sure money is great, but when you've earned as much as him in your career then maybe it's a bit silly to go to a club at the peak of your powers because of that and the fact it's a nice stadium? (New Spurs stadium is better) Alan Shearers record is talked about more than the Bundesliga. Call it a "bullshit fake record" (which it isn't) but it's a far superior achievement than winning the league with Bayern. Sorry, are we really saying the 'football was invented in 1992' record is more relevant than playing for actual Bayern Munich, one of the biggest clubs in the world? Yeah personally. Couldn't give a toss if xyz played for Bayern, there's only ever one league top scorer.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 15, 2023 18:13:20 GMT
Winning the Bundesliga is not exactly a feat of strength when you play for Bayern Munich. After last nights showing I don't think the manager will even be around long enough for them to prepare for winning a Champions Leauge. Sure money is great, but when you've earned as much as him in your career then maybe it's a bit silly to go to a club at the peak of your powers because of that and the fact it's a nice stadium? (New Spurs stadium is better) Alan Shearers record is talked about more than the Bundesliga. Call it a "bullshit fake record" (which it isn't) but it's a far superior achievement than winning the league with Bayern. I agree that winning the league wouldn't be a great feat at Bayern. But is it a better feat than finishing 8th with Spurs... And yes, it is a bullshit record. Shearer is the 4th all time highest scorer in the top flight in England. Kane is 19th I believe. If you think it's okay to reset the clock on records whenever you fancy it then Shearer's "record" will simply be deleted at that time. I bey Greaves thought his record would be hard to beat, I doubt he imagined it would be deleted. But isn't that because the league changed?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 15, 2023 19:05:14 GMT
Sorry, are we really saying the 'football was invented in 1992' record is more relevant than playing for actual Bayern Munich, one of the biggest clubs in the world? Yeah personally. Couldn't give a toss if xyz played for Bayern, there's only ever one league top scorer. Oh, I thought you were saying that’s what people remember generally, rather than just you personally, apologies. I think players want to win things and credit to Kane for going for a different experience late in his career. Don’t think beating Shearer’s pretend record is worth stopping for myself.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 15, 2023 22:15:45 GMT
Yeah personally. Couldn't give a toss if xyz played for Bayern, there's only ever one league top scorer. Oh, I thought you were saying that’s what people remember generally, rather than just you personally, apologies. I think players want to win things and credit to Kane for going for a different experience late in his career. Don’t think beating Shearer’s pretend record is worth stopping for myself. Well it's a personal opinion, but I do feel like people would talk more about a league top scorer than just winning a bundesliga title. If he goes and wins the Champions League fair enough, but I just felt like it was the wrong move for him at this time.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Aug 15, 2023 22:31:35 GMT
I agree that winning the league wouldn't be a great feat at Bayern. But is it a better feat than finishing 8th with Spurs... And yes, it is a bullshit record. Shearer is the 4th all time highest scorer in the top flight in England. Kane is 19th I believe. If you think it's okay to reset the clock on records whenever you fancy it then Shearer's "record" will simply be deleted at that time. I bey Greaves thought his record would be hard to beat, I doubt he imagined it would be deleted. But isn't that because the league changed? No. The name changed. It was, and is still, the top flight of English football. Who administers the league, which TV stations show it and what it is called is irrelevant. I hope you'd feel the same as me if these 3 things change again in the future. It will still be the to division in English football.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 15, 2023 22:36:30 GMT
But isn't that because the league changed? No. The name changed. It was, and is still, the top flight of English football. Who administers the league, which TV stations show it and what it is called is irrelevant. I hope you'd feel the same as me if these 3 things change again in the future. It will still be the to division in English football. It's a Premier League record hence why the records are from the Premier League or Shearer would've been on 280+ I get what you're saying, but the record is what it is and there's no bullshit about it if we're talking just the Premier League right?
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