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Post by bloodtypered on Aug 12, 2023 17:04:46 GMT
We are missing somthing up front at the moment...wesley wiil good in different games (where pace isnt needed)
You can tell ipswich have played together for a long time...they work hard for each other.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 12, 2023 17:05:51 GMT
Could have had Messi and Mbappe on the flanks today and it wouldn’t have mattered.
Our complete lack of midfield lost us that game today.
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Post by bloodtypered on Aug 12, 2023 17:19:11 GMT
Pearson played well ..but he couldnt do laurants work too
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Post by figo85 on Aug 12, 2023 17:22:23 GMT
Where has this Brown love fest come from ? He was terrible most games and average the rest. Can’t dribble, can’t shoot, can’t hold up the ball and gave away stupid fouls in a regular basis. He has gone to Luton as he fits their system.
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Post by mcw on Aug 12, 2023 17:22:32 GMT
Looks a bit like we have spent the summer trying to build a team that can break down teams who sit in, which we did effectively against Rotherham. Conversely this team does not look like it can deal with teams that press us and bully us physically.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 12, 2023 17:38:10 GMT
I think Campbell will thrive along side Wesley,like he did with Fletcher.
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 12, 2023 17:42:12 GMT
Where has this Brown love fest come from ? He was terrible most games and average the rest. Can’t dribble, can’t shoot, can’t hold up the ball and gave away stupid fouls in a regular basis. He has gone to Luton as he fits their system. Stoke fans for you. Runs about a lot, chases lost causes, 'knows the club' = brilliant. Genuine mercurial talent, vision, creativity = lazy. |
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Aug 12, 2023 17:42:17 GMT
I called this thread as soon as we went behind, it was inevitable
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Post by blooter on Aug 12, 2023 17:42:51 GMT
This was a carbon copy of around 30 games last season. Brown and Campbell played in most of them. Don't make out we are shit because he has gone.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 12, 2023 17:43:35 GMT
We still need 4 new signings straight through the spine of the side. As it stands right now, we are miles off competing at the top end of this division.
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 12, 2023 17:44:31 GMT
Sick of hearing about missing brown already
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 12, 2023 17:48:24 GMT
I doubt brown would have made any difference!!! 🙄
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Post by figo85 on Aug 12, 2023 17:48:32 GMT
I called this thread as soon as we went behind, it was inevitable Great username. Have you listened to his paranormal podcast? |
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Post by somersetstokie on Aug 12, 2023 17:49:08 GMT
This was a carbon copy of around 30 games last season. Brown and Campbell played in most of them. Don't make out we are shit because he has gone. Brown is the biggest single loss to the team since Nzonzi!  |
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Post by figo85 on Aug 12, 2023 17:49:13 GMT
I called this thread as soon as we went behind, it was inevitable Great username. Have you listened to his paranormal podcast? |
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Post by karl on Aug 12, 2023 17:51:41 GMT
No we didn't as the issues were in midfield.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 12, 2023 17:56:20 GMT
Why didn't they make the difference last season if they're so good?
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Post by mcw on Aug 12, 2023 17:56:34 GMT
No we didn't as the issues were in midfield. Agree, the midfield three did not get a grip on the game and that meant that the front three were living off scraps. That midfield needs other options as Johnson is very forward looking and not particularly physical, Pearson is good as a mopping up/keep the ball ticking over type player who sits deeper and Laurent is supposed to be a box to box type. The combination of that three today when out of possession was pretty underwhelming. Ipswich easily dominated us and played through us. We need a mean, tall, quick midfield destroyer type to add variety in that area of the field for games like this where physicality is required. |
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Post by philb on Aug 12, 2023 17:57:25 GMT
Did we miss Campbell against Rotherham and West Brom? No and I doubt he’d have made the difference today.
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Post by dirtclod on Aug 12, 2023 17:59:39 GMT
I'm as big a fan of Brown as anyone but he's not the ONLY player out there with a good engine and willingness to work.
(Some of them can even dribble/pass/finish) He's at Luton, we got money, a bit more shopping is called for.
And agree that we either need to grow a spine or recruit one. Liked the look of Wesley - that's a man.
As others have pointed out, we've played like this plenty of times WITH Campbell and Brown.
And Campbell - he still just seems a "coin toss" as to whether or not he will have any impact. (Although he's looked better recently)
To the point of the OP, yes, I think we missed a player of the "up front hustle" type TODAY.
But I also believe that our lackluster midfield play had more to do with us losing than anything else.
Disjointed looking and with Ipswich's pressing - give 'em credit, they came after us.
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Post by greystokie on Aug 12, 2023 18:00:50 GMT
Some people are refusing to acknowledge that Brown wanted to go to Luton, he wasn't forced out. I wonder if those people think he would have been such a wonderful asset to the side if the club had made him remain at Stoke. We may need to find a replacement who has some of Brown's abilities in pressing and running but he only left a couple of days ago and it'll take longer than that to get someone else in.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Aug 12, 2023 18:32:52 GMT
This was a carbon copy of around 30 games last season. Brown and Campbell played in most of them. Don't make out we are shit because he has gone. Brown is the biggest single loss to the team since Nzonzi! Why? Did Nzonzi miss sitters and fall over his own feet too? |
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Post by eriksson74 on Aug 12, 2023 18:52:33 GMT
Good to see a thread that doesn't surprise me as soon as we loose, to call for 2 players that have been a big part of finishing in bottom half for the last few seasons.
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Post by loosestools on Aug 12, 2023 19:04:50 GMT
Brown is no footballing genius with amazing skills, but he was a runner, a harrier who pressed and pressed. Anyone else do that today?
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 12, 2023 19:10:20 GMT
This was a carbon copy of around 30 games last season. Brown and Campbell played in most of them. Don't make out we are shit because he has gone. Brown is the biggest single loss to the team since Nzonzi! I'd put Arnautovic at the top of that list.. definitely not Brown |
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Aug 12, 2023 19:15:25 GMT
No we didn't as the issues were in midfield. Agree, the midfield three did not get a grip on the game and that meant that the front three were living off scraps. That midfield needs other options as Johnson is very forward looking and not particularly physical, Pearson is good as a mopping up/keep the ball ticking over type player who sits deeper and Laurent is supposed to be a box to box type. The combination of that three today when out of possession was pretty underwhelming. Ipswich easily dominated us and played through us. We need a mean, tall, quick midfield destroyer type to add variety in that area of the field for games like this where physicality is required. Sounds like Lewis Baker . |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 12, 2023 19:20:16 GMT
Agree, the midfield three did not get a grip on the game and that meant that the front three were living off scraps. That midfield needs other options as Johnson is very forward looking and not particularly physical, Pearson is good as a mopping up/keep the ball ticking over type player who sits deeper and Laurent is supposed to be a box to box type. The combination of that three today when out of possession was pretty underwhelming. Ipswich easily dominated us and played through us. We need a mean, tall, quick midfield destroyer type to add variety in that area of the field for games like this where physicality is required. Sounds like Lewis Baker . 😂 |
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Post by bloodtypered on Aug 12, 2023 19:22:00 GMT
Where has this Brown love fest come from ? He was terrible most games and average the rest. Can’t dribble, can’t shoot, can’t hold up the ball and gave away stupid fouls in a regular basis. He has gone to Luton as he fits their system. Always said he will run and chase everything and pressurise....he isnt an out and out striker, but he still got goals |
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Post by march4 on Aug 12, 2023 19:26:58 GMT
All the issues were up front.
We are set up for a front led press and there was no such thing thus putting relentless pressure on everyone else.
Just as we did at the start of the transfer window, we urgently need;
1. A streetwise goal scorer to lead the line.
2. A combative, dominant leader at centre back.
And now we need an aggressive wide forward on the right flank who will give adequate support to Hoever - to replace Brown.
Three key signings to turn us into a side capable of promotion.
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Post by kjpt140v on Aug 12, 2023 19:30:26 GMT
Where has this Brown love fest come from ? He was terrible most games and average the rest. Can’t dribble, can’t shoot, can’t hold up the ball and gave away stupid fouls in a regular basis. He has gone to Luton as he fits their system. We didn't value Whelan until he was gone. Brow regular scorer of goals, more consistent than our other strikers. |
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