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Post by jwhpotter on Jul 22, 2023 15:58:52 GMT
Today just proves how much work we still need to do (if we needed any!)
Team VS Rotherham…
New keeper
Hoever Wilmot New CB New LB
Laurent Pearson DJ (if fit) we need another CAM either way
Campbell New ST Chiouinho
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Post by lordb on Jul 22, 2023 16:00:53 GMT
No, 6 weeks
2 weeks to get defence in shape for sure
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 22, 2023 16:03:23 GMT
No, 6 weeks 2 weeks to get defence in shape for sure Yeah I think that’s the key. Always need a strong defence. Ours (inc keeper) is weak as piss at the moment. Ideally only Wilmot starts out of that back 5 and maybe not even him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2023 16:06:27 GMT
Today just proves how much work we still need to do (if we needed any!) Team VS Rotherham… New keeper Hoever Wilmot New CB New LB Laurent Pearson DJ (if fit) we need another CAM either way Campbell New ST Chiouinho Did Rose come on today? If so, how did he do? |
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Post by jwhpotter on Jul 22, 2023 16:08:39 GMT
No, 6 weeks 2 weeks to get defence in shape for sure Yea I get that but I mean we need a much stronger starting 11 in 2 weeks time |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 22, 2023 16:10:53 GMT
Understatement of the century that
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Post by andystokey on Jul 22, 2023 16:11:04 GMT
Today just proves how much work we still need to do (if we needed any!) Team VS Rotherham… New keeper Hoever Wilmot New CB New LB Laurent Pearson DJ (if fit) we need another CAM either way Campbell New ST Chiouinho Did Rose come on today? If so, how did he do? He had nothing to defend in the last 30mins his passing was simple but tidy. |
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Post by wuzza on Jul 22, 2023 16:14:17 GMT
Get no where without a strong defence and a world where Wilmot is your best defender is not a happy one.
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Post by gingerninja on Jul 22, 2023 16:17:55 GMT
Highlights exactly why we struggled last season, loads of the ball, but never really looked like scoring😳
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Post by Trouserdog on Jul 22, 2023 16:22:29 GMT
GK: We simply have to get a competent one in. Hopefully, Travers is a done deal. Bonham is crap, so we could probably do with a decent back-up as well. God knows why we've renewed Fielding's contract. He must be great at making tea or something?
RB: Hoever is a great addition. Sounds like Edwards hasn't impressed at all in pre-season. Hopefully the lad from Colchester is still an option.
CB: We're desperate here. I don't think Wilmot is up to it, but is an OK back-up. Taylor not ready yet- needs a loan. Rose doesn't sound like the sort of dominant CB we need. I'm still hoping we get Tuanzebe in and he's fit enough to make a decent contribution. Even if Bayram joins I'm worried how weak we look here.
LB: Stevens is back-up at best. I don't want to see Tymon at all in a back 4. Another position we're desperate in.
CDM: Pearson is a good signing. Thompson as back-up isn't really good enough, but he'll have to do for now.
CM: Laurent and Johnson are probably OK for a mid-table side, but Lewis Baker is done here and Sparrow is nowhere near good enough. Would still like to see at least one really good CM come in.
RW: Campbell is hit and miss, but has to start. Brown's limited but will run his legs off, so has a role to play.
LW: The two Portuguese lads could be anything. Got to trust the club have scouted them properly and hope for the best.
CF: Gayle is useless, while Tezgel may only play a bit-part this year. We still need a proper target man-type and probably a back-up as well.
Essential: GK (first choice), CB (first choice), LB (first choice), CM (first choice), CF (first choice)
Useful: GK (back-up), RB (back-up), CF (back-up)
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Jul 22, 2023 16:29:07 GMT
As things stand after today we are going to struggle to stay above the bottom 3 with that defense.
Alex Neil needs to pull off some astute transfers/loans within the next 2 weeks.
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Post by stokemark on Jul 22, 2023 16:29:40 GMT
GK: We simply have to get a competent one in. Hopefully, Travers is a done deal. Bonham is crap, so we could probably do with a decent back-up as well. God knows why we've renewed Fielding's contract. He must be great at making tea or something? RB: Hoever is a great addition. Sounds like Edwards hasn't impressed at all in pre-season. Hopefully the lad from Colchester is still an option. CB: We're desperate here. I don't think Wilmot is up to it, but is an OK back-up. Taylor not ready yet- needs a loan. Rose doesn't sound like the sort of dominant CB we need. I'm still hoping we get Tuanzebe in and he's fit enough to make a decent contribution. Even if Bayram joins I'm worried how weak we look here. LB: Stevens is back-up at best. I don't want to see Tymon at all in a back 4. Another position we're desperate in. CDM: Pearson is a good signing. Thompson as back-up isn't really good enough, but he'll have to do for now. CM: Laurent and Johnson are probably OK for a mid-table side, but Lewis Baker is done here and Sparrow is nowhere near good enough. Would still like to see at least one really good CM come in. RW: Campbell is hit and miss, but has to start. Brown's limited but will run his legs off, so has a role to play. LW: The two Portuguese lads could be anything. Got to trust the club have scouted them properly and hope for the best. CF: Gayle is useless, while Tezgel may only play a bit-part this year. We still need a proper target man-type and probably a back-up as well. Essential: GK (first choice), CB (first choice), LB (first choice), CM (first choice), CF (first choice) Useful: GK (back-up), RB (back-up), CF (back-up) Great summary 'Spine' of the team effectively |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 22, 2023 16:30:11 GMT
After today's game I really hope we don't see Edwards, Tymon, Thompson and Stevens in our starting line up against Rotherham! Edwards and Stevens both look too slow to be fullbacks, Tymon looks like he is about to be electrocuted every time he receives the ball. He needs to calm down and try to make more decisions right, because right now it looks like he has no idea of what he is doing! With Thompson on the other hand it goes too slowly, and it seems like he is waiting for the oponents to get behind the ball every time. A lot of the others weren't very impressive either, and of course it's just a friendly but stil .... Johnson looked our best player by far the few minutes he played, but got injured of course! Still a lot of work to be done before the Rotherham game!  |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 22, 2023 16:32:09 GMT
What did AN have to say?
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Post by andystokey on Jul 22, 2023 16:32:37 GMT
GK: We simply have to get a competent one in. Hopefully, Travers is a done deal. Bonham is crap, so we could probably do with a decent back-up as well. God knows why we've renewed Fielding's contract. He must be great at making tea or something? RB: Hoever is a great addition. Sounds like Edwards hasn't impressed at all in pre-season. Hopefully the lad from Colchester is still an option. CB: We're desperate here. I don't think Wilmot is up to it, but is an OK back-up. Taylor not ready yet- needs a loan. Rose doesn't sound like the sort of dominant CB we need. I'm still hoping we get Tuanzebe in and he's fit enough to make a decent contribution. Even if Bayram joins I'm worried how weak we look here. LB: Stevens is back-up at best. I don't want to see Tymon at all in a back 4. Another position we're desperate in. CDM: Pearson is a good signing. Thompson as back-up isn't really good enough, but he'll have to do for now. CM: Laurent and Johnson are probably OK for a mid-table side, but Lewis Baker is done here and Sparrow is nowhere near good enough. Would still like to see at least one really good CM come in. RW: Campbell is hit and miss, but has to start. Brown's limited but will run his legs off, so has a role to play. LW: The two Portuguese lads could be anything. Got to trust the club have scouted them properly and hope for the best. CF: Gayle is useless, while Tezgel may only play a bit-part this year. We still need a proper target man-type and probably a back-up as well. Essential: GK (first choice), CB (first choice), LB (first choice), CM (first choice), CF (first choice) Useful: GK (back-up), RB (back-up), CF (back-up) That's just about where I am too. With the added problem that 2 or 3 you mentioned will leave. I'm assuming the main transfer money we need to spend is on those key positions. GK £2m, CF £6m, CB £3m, LB £2m |
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Post by pavel on Jul 22, 2023 16:36:26 GMT
GK: We simply have to get a competent one in. Hopefully, Travers is a done deal. Bonham is crap, so we could probably do with a decent back-up as well. God knows why we've renewed Fielding's contract. He must be great at making tea or something? RB: Hoever is a great addition. Sounds like Edwards hasn't impressed at all in pre-season. Hopefully the lad from Colchester is still an option. CB: We're desperate here. I don't think Wilmot is up to it, but is an OK back-up. Taylor not ready yet- needs a loan. Rose doesn't sound like the sort of dominant CB we need. I'm still hoping we get Tuanzebe in and he's fit enough to make a decent contribution. Even if Bayram joins I'm worried how weak we look here. LB: Stevens is back-up at best. I don't want to see Tymon at all in a back 4. Another position we're desperate in. CDM: Pearson is a good signing. Thompson as back-up isn't really good enough, but he'll have to do for now. CM: Laurent and Johnson are probably OK for a mid-table side, but Lewis Baker is done here and Sparrow is nowhere near good enough. Would still like to see at least one really good CM come in. RW: Campbell is hit and miss, but has to start. Brown's limited but will run his legs off, so has a role to play. LW: The two Portuguese lads could be anything. Got to trust the club have scouted them properly and hope for the best. CF: Gayle is useless, while Tezgel may only play a bit-part this year. We still need a proper target man-type and probably a back-up as well. Essential: GK (first choice), CB (first choice), LB (first choice), CM (first choice), CF (first choice) Useful: GK (back-up), RB (back-up), CF (back-up) Can’t argue with that, think Wilmot will be OK as first choice but he’ll need a really good dominant CB with him. I actually think your back ups are essential, it a hard long season and we need depth , where we just have mediocrity at the moment, would like 2 more midfielders in, if possible. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 22, 2023 16:36:42 GMT
After today's game I really hope we don't see Edwards, Tymon, Thompson and Stevens in our starting line up against Rotherham! Edwards and Stevens both look too slow to be fullbacks, Tymon looks like he is about to be electrocuted every time he receives the ball. He needs to calm down and try to make more decisions right, because right now it looks like he has no idea of what he is doing! With Thompson on the other hand it goes too slowly, and it seems like he is waiting for the oponents to get behind the ball every time. A lot of the others weren't very impressive either, and of course it's just a friendly but stil .... Johnson looked our best player by far the few minutes he played, but got injured of course! Still a lot of work to be done before the Rotherham game! I knew Neil saying Johnson rarely misses games would jinx him. Any idea what happened? |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 22, 2023 16:38:13 GMT
I’m sorry but anyone who still thinks Wilmot is anywhere near good enough is simply wrong.
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Post by andystokey on Jul 22, 2023 16:41:49 GMT
After today's game I really hope we don't see Edwards, Tymon, Thompson and Stevens in our starting line up against Rotherham! Edwards and Stevens both look too slow to be fullbacks, Tymon looks like he is about to be electrocuted every time he receives the ball. He needs to calm down and try to make more decisions right, because right now it looks like he has no idea of what he is doing! With Thompson on the other hand it goes too slowly, and it seems like he is waiting for the oponents to get behind the ball every time. A lot of the others weren't very impressive either, and of course it's just a friendly but stil .... Johnson looked our best player by far the few minutes he played, but got injured of course! Still a lot of work to be done before the Rotherham game! I knew Neil saying Johnson rarely misses games would jinx him. Any idea what happened? Unnecessary tackle on the touchline at halfway. Looked like one of those where the bottom of the opponents boot hit soft tissue or an ankle. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 22, 2023 16:42:29 GMT
After today's game I really hope we don't see Edwards, Tymon, Thompson and Stevens in our starting line up against Rotherham! Edwards and Stevens both look too slow to be fullbacks, Tymon looks like he is about to be electrocuted every time he receives the ball. He needs to calm down and try to make more decisions right, because right now it looks like he has no idea of what he is doing! With Thompson on the other hand it goes too slowly, and it seems like he is waiting for the oponents to get behind the ball every time. A lot of the others weren't very impressive either, and of course it's just a friendly but stil .... Johnson looked our best player by far the few minutes he played, but got injured of course! Still a lot of work to be done before the Rotherham game! I knew Neil saying Johnson rarely misses games would jinx him. Any idea what happened? Seemed like a knock, but I really couldn't see the whole incident. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 22, 2023 16:45:45 GMT
I’m sorry but anyone who still thinks Wilmot is anywhere near good enough is simply wrong. He needs a big lump next to him not a young lad with two left feet. He was absolutely fine alongside Tuanzebe |
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Post by philb on Jul 22, 2023 16:46:55 GMT
GK: We simply have to get a competent one in. Hopefully, Travers is a done deal. Bonham is crap, so we could probably do with a decent back-up as well. God knows why we've renewed Fielding's contract. He must be great at making tea or something? RB: Hoever is a great addition. Sounds like Edwards hasn't impressed at all in pre-season. Hopefully the lad from Colchester is still an option. CB: We're desperate here. I don't think Wilmot is up to it, but is an OK back-up. Taylor not ready yet- needs a loan. Rose doesn't sound like the sort of dominant CB we need. I'm still hoping we get Tuanzebe in and he's fit enough to make a decent contribution. Even if Bayram joins I'm worried how weak we look here. LB: Stevens is back-up at best. I don't want to see Tymon at all in a back 4. Another position we're desperate in. CDM: Pearson is a good signing. Thompson as back-up isn't really good enough, but he'll have to do for now. CM: Laurent and Johnson are probably OK for a mid-table side, but Lewis Baker is done here and Sparrow is nowhere near good enough. Would still like to see at least one really good CM come in. RW: Campbell is hit and miss, but has to start. Brown's limited but will run his legs off, so has a role to play. LW: The two Portuguese lads could be anything. Got to trust the club have scouted them properly and hope for the best. CF: Gayle is useless, while Tezgel may only play a bit-part this year. We still need a proper target man-type and probably a back-up as well. Essential: GK (first choice), CB (first choice), LB (first choice), CM (first choice), CF (first choice) Useful: GK (back-up), RB (back-up), CF (back-up) With regards to CDM I hope that come kick off Thompson isn’t 2nd choice for that role. He was awful today. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 22, 2023 16:46:56 GMT
No, 6 weeks 2 weeks to get defence in shape for sure Yeah I think that’s the key. Always need a strong defence. Ours (inc keeper) is weak as piss at the moment. Ideally only Wilmot starts out of that back 5 and maybe not even him. Ideally Wilmots on the bench, he's just as weak as the others, it won't happen mind. |
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Post by philb on Jul 22, 2023 16:48:57 GMT
I knew Neil saying Johnson rarely misses games would jinx him. Any idea what happened? Seemed like a knock, but I really couldn't see the whole incident. Got taken out after the ball had gone by the sideline. Late tackle that the ref let go. Hope it’s not serious🤞 |
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Post by leegthestokie90 on Jul 22, 2023 16:49:59 GMT
I’m sorry but anyone who still thinks Wilmot is anywhere near good enough is simply wrong. spot on mate good bench player but need better campbell and brown can go too |
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Post by philb on Jul 22, 2023 16:51:48 GMT
Yeah I think that’s the key. Always need a strong defence. Ours (inc keeper) is weak as piss at the moment. Ideally only Wilmot starts out of that back 5 and maybe not even him. Ideally Wilmots on the bench, he's just as weak as the others, it won't happen mind. Unless we get another 2 centre halves before next Saturday but one he’ll definitely be starting the season as first choice. |
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Post by Gods on Jul 22, 2023 16:52:10 GMT
I don't know but he would lick his own balls if he could. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 22, 2023 17:00:16 GMT
Highlights exactly why we struggled last season, loads of the ball, but never really looked like scoring😳 This is Stoke for a while now, no ability to break teams down and way too easy to score against, that summed today up also. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 22, 2023 17:06:41 GMT
GK: We simply have to get a competent one in. Hopefully, Travers is a done deal. Bonham is crap, so we could probably do with a decent back-up as well. God knows why we've renewed Fielding's contract. He must be great at making tea or something? RB: Hoever is a great addition. Sounds like Edwards hasn't impressed at all in pre-season. Hopefully the lad from Colchester is still an option. CB: We're desperate here. I don't think Wilmot is up to it, but is an OK back-up. Taylor not ready yet- needs a loan. Rose doesn't sound like the sort of dominant CB we need. I'm still hoping we get Tuanzebe in and he's fit enough to make a decent contribution. Even if Bayram joins I'm worried how weak we look here. LB: Stevens is back-up at best. I don't want to see Tymon at all in a back 4. Another position we're desperate in. CDM: Pearson is a good signing. Thompson as back-up isn't really good enough, but he'll have to do for now. CM: Laurent and Johnson are probably OK for a mid-table side, but Lewis Baker is done here and Sparrow is nowhere near good enough. Would still like to see at least one really good CM come in. RW: Campbell is hit and miss, but has to start. Brown's limited but will run his legs off, so has a role to play. LW: The two Portuguese lads could be anything. Got to trust the club have scouted them properly and hope for the best. CF: Gayle is useless, while Tezgel may only play a bit-part this year. We still need a proper target man-type and probably a back-up as well. Essential: GK (first choice), CB (first choice), LB (first choice), CM (first choice), CF (first choice) Useful: GK (back-up), RB (back-up), CF (back-up) With regards to CDM I hope that come kick off Thompson isn’t 2nd choice for that role. He was awful today. I’m not sure what he does well but he’s no DM. I’d rather we’d have kept Cousens |
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Post by philb on Jul 22, 2023 17:08:57 GMT
With regards to CDM I hope that come kick off Thompson isn’t 2nd choice for that role. He was awful today. I’m not sure what he does well but he’s no DM. I’d rather we’d have kept Cousens Being a bang average footballer. That’s what he does well at. |
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