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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 12, 2023 9:28:57 GMT
If we do have the money to pay decent wages,what other attributes do we have to convince players to join Stoke City,especially since we have been a bottom half Championship club these last 4 seasons?
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 12, 2023 9:30:19 GMT
"Take your pick of the lockers"
"Take your pick of the squad numbers"
"Take your pick of the car park spaces except one"
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Post by cdf on Jul 12, 2023 9:38:08 GMT
Location is a great selling point
Get to various other parts of the country quickly
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 12, 2023 10:01:19 GMT
I think that the club needs a season of progress to convince more ambitious players to come here. To the outside world, we are a club that has been underachieving for years with a disgruntled fan base and a new management team still to really make its mark. Beyond the first team, there is an impression of turmoil on the football side with a wholesale change in the coaching and academy setup ( Owen now also going).
This might explain why Neil is having to look at players he knows or who know him to build belief in others . I suspect it might take a few windows and progress up the league to attract quite a few players .
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 12, 2023 10:05:13 GMT
The Championship is all about scouting. Barnsley, Huddersfield, Luton have all made the play offs in recent seasons. Brentford's rise, Sheffield United going up in back to back seasons, it's all about unearthing the gems others haven't found or won't gamble on.
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Post by jascfc on Jul 12, 2023 10:10:36 GMT
Good facilities & stadium.
Great location (can live in Cheshire/Manchester) and good transport links to places like London via train station aswell as being right next to the M6.
One of the “bigger” teams in the league with a lot of tradition.
A sizeable fan base that will travel to support them (and then probably slag them off constantly)
Baffles me how Stoke fans play down how attractive this club can be to potential signings, think of the big name signings we’ve made.
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 12, 2023 10:11:05 GMT
The Championship is all about scouting. Barnsley, Huddersfield, Luton have all made the play offs in recent seasons. Brentford's rise, Sheffield United going up in back to back seasons, it's all about unearthing the gems others haven't found or won't gamble on. Tough when you fish in a very small pond |
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 12, 2023 10:14:28 GMT
Good facilities & stadium. Great location (can live in Cheshire/Manchester) and good transport links to places like London via train station aswell as being right next to the M6. One of the “bigger” teams in the league with a lot of tradition. A sizeable fan base that will travel to support them (and then probably slag them off constantly) Baffles me how Stoke fans play down how attractive this club can be to potential signings, think of the big name signings we’ve made. Agree with location. I'm sure most players think of money, location and chances of promotion. I doubt they could care less about tradition, fanbase and training ground - they are just shit they spout in the interview after they've signed. |
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Post by wuzza on Jul 12, 2023 10:14:39 GMT
Financial security must be a big issue for Championship level players - they ain’t ever going to be a position that they are checking their bank account at the end of the month.
Location is superb for anyone hailing from the Midlands or North West.
There is still a hint of PL status about the place for players of the current generation.
......after that it’s down to the management team to sell their dream.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 12, 2023 10:15:52 GMT
The Championship is all about scouting. Barnsley, Huddersfield, Luton have all made the play offs in recent seasons. Brentford's rise, Sheffield United going up in back to back seasons, it's all about unearthing the gems others haven't found or won't gamble on. Tough when you fish in a very small pond I think we're fishing in a much wider one than previously now tbf. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 12, 2023 11:50:27 GMT
To the outside world, we are a club that has been underachieving for years with a disgruntled fan base and a new management team still to really make its mark. What do you mean to the outside world |
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Post by cousindupree on Jul 12, 2023 11:52:59 GMT
Tough when you fish in a very small pond I think we're fishing in a much wider one than previously now tbf. I hope you are right would be interested to hear why you think that is the case. Our recruitment in the recent past has centred almost entirely on out of contract lists and loans and maybe players the manager knows. We haven't ventured abroad and rarely dipped into lower leagues. All this suggest a poor scouting network, has this improved? I like the sound of the head of recruitment but he is very much a stats guy and what on earth was he doing at Reading? As for the manager and Ricky Martin, they were both fired from Norwich due to poor recruitment. Since then Martin hasn't been involved in recruitment and Neil hasn't really had a project which reuires huge numbers to recruit. I have everything crossed that they can deliver and watch with interest at the uality they are able to bring in. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 12, 2023 12:06:25 GMT
I think we're fishing in a much wider one than previously now tbf. I hope you are right would be interested to hear why you think that is the case. Our recruitment in the recent past has centred almost entirely on out of contract lists and loans and maybe players the manager knows. We haven't ventured abroad and rarely dipped into lower leagues. All this suggest a poor scouting network, has this improved? I like the sound of the head of recruitment but he is very much a stats guy and what on earth was he doing at Reading? As for the manager and Ricky Martin, they were both fired from Norwich due to poor recruitment. Since then Martin hasn't been involved in recruitment and Neil hasn't really had a project which reuires huge numbers to recruit. I have everything crossed that they can deliver and watch with interest at the uality they are able to bring in. The Colchester lad suggests we're prepared to dip into the lower leagues. If the reported interest in the Turkish defender is genuine, and it seems to be, that suggests being prepared to venture abroad. The new Head of Recruitment has found a couple of overseas-based gems in his time as well. |
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 12, 2023 12:10:06 GMT
Oatcakes and unlimited Bet365 account.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 12, 2023 12:36:54 GMT
To the outside world, we are a club that has been underachieving for years with a disgruntled fan base and a new management team still to really make its mark. What do you mean to the outside world Well in this case to prospective players and their representatives , if they are trying to place a player at a club with a chance of promotion , I doubt we are near the top of the list just yet |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 12, 2023 12:39:14 GMT
I hope you are right would be interested to hear why you think that is the case. Our recruitment in the recent past has centred almost entirely on out of contract lists and loans and maybe players the manager knows. We haven't ventured abroad and rarely dipped into lower leagues. All this suggest a poor scouting network, has this improved? I like the sound of the head of recruitment but he is very much a stats guy and what on earth was he doing at Reading? As for the manager and Ricky Martin, they were both fired from Norwich due to poor recruitment. Since then Martin hasn't been involved in recruitment and Neil hasn't really had a project which reuires huge numbers to recruit. I have everything crossed that they can deliver and watch with interest at the uality they are able to bring in. The Colchester lad suggests we're prepared to dip into the lower leagues. If the reported interest in the Turkish defender is genuine, and it seems to be, that suggests being prepared to venture abroad. The new Head of Recruitment has found a couple of overseas-based gems in his time as well. I think the Colchester lad as an example of where we should be looking , for him we are a big step up , also for overseas players looking to break into English football , it will be interesting to see the make up of the squad on 1st September |
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Post by independent on Jul 12, 2023 13:13:17 GMT
Surely there must be some useful players in Europe that we can sign. The wages aren't great over there. The opportunity to display their ability in English football and possibly get a move to the Premier league must be a great selling point. Look at Jota on big money in Saudi League after one season at Celtic. He is joining Benzema and Kante.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 12, 2023 13:15:59 GMT
Good facilities & stadium. Great location (can live in Cheshire/Manchester) and good transport links to places like London via train station aswell as being right next to the M6. One of the “bigger” teams in the league with a lot of tradition. A sizeable fan base that will travel to support them (and then probably slag them off constantly) Baffles me how Stoke fans play down how attractive this club can be to potential signings, think of the big name signings we’ve made. Didn't you realise, any prospective new signings have to live in a flat up Bentilee |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 13:20:01 GMT
If we do have the money to pay decent wages,what other attributes do we have to convince players to join Stoke City,especially since we have been a bottom half Championship club these last 4 seasons? Are any other attributes needed? £££s rule with the possible exception of the eccentric Nick Powell. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Jul 12, 2023 13:21:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2023 13:45:03 GMT
Might swing it for the Turkish lad |
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Post by flea79 on Jul 12, 2023 15:27:36 GMT
oatcakes and that blow up sex doll last seen being carried down the tunnel by the lads for a good old time in the showers!
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Post by hoppo96 on Jul 12, 2023 16:25:52 GMT
Good facilities & stadium. Great location (can live in Cheshire/Manchester) and good transport links to places like London via train station aswell as being right next to the M6. One of the “bigger” teams in the league with a lot of tradition. A sizeable fan base that will travel to support them (and then probably slag them off constantly) Baffles me how Stoke fans play down how attractive this club can be to potential signings, think of the big name signings we’ve made. tbh we could be a very attractive club, we just need to stop telling ourselves we're some humble little club whose natural level is the third tier or whatever |
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Post by generationex on Jul 12, 2023 16:45:38 GMT
Tell them we’re the richest club in the division and we’re prepared to bend the FFP rules like an Arab prince?
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jul 12, 2023 21:01:46 GMT
Apart from wages for me it's:
1. Likelihood of promotion (every player wants a shot at playing in the PL). We are shitting the bed every season on this.
2. Club status (heavily linked to promotion and we are losing our decent PL club reputation by the second).
3. Mates - do they play there
4. Location
4. Jointly with location is training facilities, what the club does for you with meals, fitness etc
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jul 12, 2023 21:02:57 GMT
You need be a professional footballer afford a kebab from there nowadays |
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Post by retrostoke on Jul 12, 2023 21:08:16 GMT
Our manager
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Jul 12, 2023 21:17:20 GMT
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 12, 2023 22:15:52 GMT
Monkey forest.
Annual family pass to water world.
...and if that doesn't entice them, they're not fit to wear the shirt
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Post by whatsashig on Jul 13, 2023 4:05:08 GMT
What have the romans ever done for us
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