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Post by dirtclod on Jul 9, 2023 22:56:30 GMT
Top 24
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jul 10, 2023 8:56:22 GMT
I mean, law of averages says 14th-16th doesn't it?
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Post by boothenender on Jul 10, 2023 13:35:20 GMT
20th... The very best i can hope for, going by the current state of our piss poor squad. Next season is going to be painful for all of us unless AN works a miracle.
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Post by pavel on Jul 10, 2023 13:54:51 GMT
Impossible to make a forecast at the moment when we have no idea what the make up of the team will look like.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 10, 2023 14:22:57 GMT
Can't decide between 3rd and 5th - will let you know after Christmas!
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 12, 2023 9:40:47 GMT
We'll walk this tinpot league (take 6).
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Post by nott1 on Jul 12, 2023 11:23:07 GMT
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Post by iamstokie on Jul 12, 2023 11:34:03 GMT
surely it’s still way to early predict ?
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Post by skemstokie on Jul 15, 2023 9:40:16 GMT
Can't decide between 3rd and 5th - will let you know after Christmas! Try 4th?
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 15, 2023 10:58:19 GMT
If we sign good players maybe creep into top half , as we stand 22nd most likely the same as past few years 14-16th
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Post by sticky on Jul 15, 2023 11:07:48 GMT
About 10 points off the play offs, 11-15th
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2023 11:21:59 GMT
The one forecast, I will make, is we won't be ready for August 5 th.
By August 5 th, we will be talking to agents, in several active discussions, chatting to players with various options, including potential deals with teams higher up the league... blah blah
TP was chatting to players , and waiting for apples to drop on the opening day of the season, when we went up ,but he also had the players fit , the system of play nailed down and started with one defeat in the first ten games. He was trying to get good players to join a well organised side , that's rarely beaten, to come and turn one or two draws into wins ...that's a plausible offer .
My concern is that we are not going to have eleven players bedded in and playing to a solid system by August 5.
Which means in effect AN and Ricky Martin are winging it, because if we don't get the results early doors , players with various offers will go elsewhere.
He's taking real risks to try and get in a bit of extra quality.
I sympathise with him and can see where he is coming from but I think ( although he would never say it for obvious reasons) , he's written this season off and is going for improvement, rather than promotion.
If he succeeds in doing just that and after two transfer Windows, finishes , say 9 th , he will have done a good job.
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Post by southcoaststokie on Jul 15, 2023 11:30:30 GMT
Great day out at Wembley next May 😁
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Post by lordb on Jul 15, 2023 11:35:12 GMT
The one forecast, I will make, is we won't be ready for August 5 th. By August 5 th, we will be talking to agents, in several active discussions, chatting to players with various options, including potential deals with teams higher up the league... blah blah TP was chatting to players , and waiting for apples to drop on the opening day of the season, when we went up ,but he also had the players fit , the system of play nailed down and started with one defeat in the first ten games. He was trying to get good players to join a well organised side , that's rarely beaten, to come and turn one or two draws into wins ...that's a plausible offer . My concern is that we are not going to have eleven players bedded in and playing to a solid system by August 5. Which means in effect AN and Ricky Martin are winging it, because if we don't get the results early doors , players with various offers will go elsewhere. He's taking real risks to try and get in a bit of extra quality. I sympathise with him and can see where he is coming from but I think ( although he would never say it for obvious reasons) , he's written this season off and is going for improvement, rather than promotion. If he succeeds in doing just that and after two transfer Windows, finishes , say 9 th , he will have done a good job. Not one club will have completed their signings by August 5th
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 15, 2023 14:02:27 GMT
Can't decide between 3rd and 5th - will let you know after Christmas! Try 4th? No, the only thing I am certain of is that we will finish in an odd position not an even one!
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Post by iamstokie on Jul 15, 2023 14:09:11 GMT
No, the only thing I am certain of is that we will finish in an odd position not an even one! my ocd i can only deal with even numbers 😂😂😂
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 15, 2023 14:47:39 GMT
Top of the bottom
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Post by skemstokie on Jul 15, 2023 14:58:33 GMT
No, the only thing I am certain of is that we will finish in an odd position not an even one! So why don`t you go for number one, be positive
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Post by peterthornesboots on Jul 15, 2023 15:02:59 GMT
Could be anything at present. If we went into the season with the squad as it is now, without any more additions, we'd be relegated by Christmas. However, we'll surely sign a few before the end of August. If we finish in the top 10 I'll be happy. Same here. We will have had such a massive turnover in players over the summer that it would be a minor miracle of every new arrival paid off and all of the players managed to gell. Furthermore, I think that the league this year will be far tougher than last season. Bearing in mind we have not finished in the top half since relegation, I cannot see us getting anywhere near the play-offs.
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Post by matelot1996 on Jul 15, 2023 20:15:58 GMT
Tough league. Top 2 places already taken I feel. We will do well to get into Top 10. So, considering we are Stoke, a solid 20th.
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Post by blackpoolred on Jul 16, 2023 5:26:14 GMT
Impossible to tell a the moment. First time I have been on for a while or had a look what is going on with the squad, looks like we barely have 11 first team players. We need at least 5 viable central defenders in the squad - we currently have 1, we desperately need some height in both boxes - lack of it was costing us, some wing-backs, a decent striker, some creativity in midfield. We need as many in as we can get before early August so the manager has a fighting chance, looks like we wont be anywhere near. It could be a disastrous start if we don't improve numbers significantly in the next few weeks. Quality and quantity needed in vast numbers - things need to change dramatically otherwise we will be in a fight again - as it stands Once again we seem to have some optimistic fans, pre-season, looking at the predictions on here That always baffles me non more so than this pre-season where with a few weeks to go we barely have a first 11
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Post by telfordstokie on Jul 16, 2023 12:25:11 GMT
Think the table in this tweet on squad values says a lot about what we can expect this year. Right now we are seventh bottom in the division for squad value and also have the second lowest number of players (only Wednesday below us). Sure we will add plenty more in the next three weeks but we look miles behind the top half let alone the top three right now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2023 12:59:55 GMT
Nope still impossible to even hazard a guess as to where we’ll finish 🤣🤣
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2023 13:01:24 GMT
Think the table in this tweet on squad values says a lot about what we can expect this year. Right now we are seventh bottom in the division for squad value and also have the second lowest number of players (only Wednesday below us). Sure we will add plenty more in the next three weeks but we look miles behind the top half let alone the top three right now. That’s interesting. Struggling to see how we’d get 32m from the first team squad mind and if we can we should do it 🤣
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Post by crouchbot on Jul 16, 2023 13:08:47 GMT
Impossible to predict. If the season started tomorrow, or more appropriately, if the window closed tomorrow. We’re in the bottom 3. Thankfully neither the season starting, nor the window closing happens tomorrow.
However, what I will say is with each passing day the likelihood of us having a crap start becomes more of an issue, and we all know what can happen when things start to snowball like that. I dare say in three weeks time we’ll know where we are.
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Post by wilcopotter on Jul 16, 2023 13:21:30 GMT
Bit of a mad thread really because you can’t tell at this stage. That said, based on that showing yesterday it don’t look great, but there’s a bit of water to go under the bridge yet.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 16, 2023 13:26:20 GMT
Bit of a mad thread really because you can’t tell at this stage. That said, based on that showing yesterday it don’t look great, but there’s a bit of water to go under the bridge yet. But what does that game yesterday actually mean? Even in terms of fitness? At most you’d hope Wilmot, Laurent, Brown and Campbell are going to start the first game of the season.
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Post by innocentbystander on May 4, 2024 14:42:21 GMT
Reviving this to show what a bunch of optimists we are/were. Some interesting theories, the expenditure table was pretty accurate.
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Post by wakeypotter on May 5, 2024 8:41:15 GMT
Very nearly mate you were 7 minutes away from getting it right 👍
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Post by mickstupp on May 5, 2024 8:54:22 GMT
Very nearly mate you were 7 minutes away from getting it right 👍 Close but no cigar mate. Next season? 9th.
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