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Post by werrington on Jul 5, 2023 15:51:35 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 5, 2023 15:53:12 GMT
“Big shake up”. As in continue to devalue. Wank
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Post by BuzzB on Jul 5, 2023 15:55:03 GMT
Scandalous
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Post by wuzza on Jul 5, 2023 15:58:06 GMT
I know it’s a sign of being old and past it but I honestly lose a bit more love for this game with each passing year. It’s like they have set up a committee that sits with the mission of draining the life and soul out of it.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 5, 2023 15:59:26 GMT
There should be a mass boycott Until they reverse their demolition of the worlds first and previously best cup competition
Let the top eight / ten premier teams battle it out on a wank Tuesday evening to see who lifts the once prestigious trophy
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 5, 2023 16:13:18 GMT
What do they mean by "early rounds"? Are they talking about the preliminary rounds? Rounds 1 & 2? They surely don't mean the 3rd/4th rounds? FA Cup third round weekend is one of the most important dates in the footballing year, the lower league teams getting their big day out at a big club, or clubs from the top two tiers getting to play at some lower league ground they haven't been to in donkey's. Surely they're not daft enough to scrap all that?!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 16:17:40 GMT
English football being so popular is an absolute fucking curse. We’ve been shafted for decades now at the behest of the usual fucking suspects. Unfortunately those clubs are so powerful that they hold the entire EFL to ransom by threatening to stop throwing a few crumbs here and there. It’s sickening.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 16:20:50 GMT
What do they mean by "early rounds"? Are they talking about the preliminary rounds? Rounds 1 & 2? They surely don't mean the 3rd/4th rounds? FA Cup third round weekend is one of the most important dates in the footballing year, the lower league teams getting their big day out at a big club, or clubs from the top two tiers getting to play at some lower league ground they haven't been to in donkey's. Surely they're not daft enough to scrap all that?! It has to mean that? Because why would the premiership care about when anything before round 2 is played.
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Post by somersetstokie on Jul 5, 2023 16:27:15 GMT
What do they mean by "early rounds"? Are they talking about the preliminary rounds? Rounds 1 & 2? They surely don't mean the 3rd/4th rounds? FA Cup third round weekend is one of the most important dates in the footballing year, the lower league teams getting their big day out at a big club, or clubs from the top two tiers getting to play at some lower league ground they haven't been to in donkey's. Surely they're not daft enough to scrap all that?! It has to mean that? Because why would the premiership care about when anything before round 2 is played. Do I understand correctly, that the FA Cup winners and finalist no longer get an automatic place in the UEFA Cup or Europa Cup competition the following season?
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Post by cvillestokie on Jul 5, 2023 16:32:42 GMT
There should be a mass boycott Until they reverse their demolition of the worlds first and previously best cup competition Let the top eight / ten premier teams battle it out on a wank Tuesday evening to see who lifts the once prestigious trophy Are we lucky enough to regularly see 8 to 10 different teams with a chance of winning it? It’s mostly just Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City, Man Utd and Liverpool. May as well watch the SPL as watch the latter stages of an English cup.
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Post by leicspotter on Jul 5, 2023 16:34:32 GMT
What do they mean by "early rounds"? Are they talking about the preliminary rounds? Rounds 1 & 2? They surely don't mean the 3rd/4th rounds? FA Cup third round weekend is one of the most important dates in the footballing year, the lower league teams getting their big day out at a big club, or clubs from the top two tiers getting to play at some lower league ground they haven't been to in donkey's. Surely they're not daft enough to scrap all that?! Sadly, I think they are
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 5, 2023 16:36:50 GMT
On the face of it, a fucking awful idea.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jul 5, 2023 16:49:43 GMT
It has to mean that? Because why would the premiership care about when anything before round 2 is played. Do I understand correctly, that the FA Cup winners and finalist no longer get an automatic place in the UEFA Cup or Europa Cup competition the following season? Winners get Europa League don’t they? And runners up get nothing.
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Post by lordb on Jul 5, 2023 17:15:44 GMT
What do they mean by "early rounds"? Are they talking about the preliminary rounds? Rounds 1 & 2? They surely don't mean the 3rd/4th rounds? FA Cup third round weekend is one of the most important dates in the footballing year, the lower league teams getting their big day out at a big club, or clubs from the top two tiers getting to play at some lower league ground they haven't been to in donkey's. Surely they're not daft enough to scrap all that?! It has to mean that? Because why would the premiership care about when anything before round 2 is played. No they mean rounds 3, 4 and probably 5
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 5, 2023 17:20:02 GMT
I think scrapping replays has some merit.
Playing in midweek and the Final mixed in with other fixtures certainly has not.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jul 5, 2023 17:23:00 GMT
I think scrapping replays has some merit. Playing in midweek and the Final mixed in with other fixtures certainly has not. For lower league clubs, the replay can be a big deal financially.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 17:24:21 GMT
It has to mean that? Because why would the premiership care about when anything before round 2 is played. No they mean rounds 3, 4 and probably 5 Ye that was my point. The premiership don't care about when round 2 or earlier is played, so the proposed changes must be targeted at 3rd round and later.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 5, 2023 17:30:52 GMT
I think scrapping replays has some merit. Playing in midweek and the Final mixed in with other fixtures certainly has not. For lower league clubs, the replay can be a big deal financially. True, but not really the point of the competition is it?
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Post by nott1 on Jul 5, 2023 17:38:17 GMT
For lower league clubs, the replay can be a big deal financially. True, but not really the point of the competition is it? I think it's one of the points surely, to give every little club the chance for fame now and again and keep some of them afloat!
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 5, 2023 17:40:49 GMT
True, but not really the point of the competition is it? I think it's one of the points surely, to give every little club the chance for fame now and again and keep some of them afloat! Never used to be, money was rarely mentioned. Increase the prize money in the early rounds rather than one or two striking it lucky.
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Post by nott1 on Jul 5, 2023 17:44:32 GMT
I think it's one of the points surely, to give every little club the chance for fame now and again and keep some of them afloat! Never used to be, money was rarely mentioned. Increase the prize money in the early rounds rather than one or two striking it lucky. They won't do that as the money might come off what the big clubs want.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 5, 2023 17:47:38 GMT
Never used to be, money was rarely mentioned. Increase the prize money in the early rounds rather than one or two striking it lucky. They won't do that as the money might come off what the big clubs want. They've increased it considerably over the last few years. Perhaps the 'bigger' clubs should have a lesser cut in return for potentially fewer games.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 5, 2023 18:02:29 GMT
Even though our 5-0 win against Bolton was an incredible day, I opened this thread hoping that we had returned to neutral venues (as in non Wembley) for the semi finals.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 5, 2023 18:08:51 GMT
Even though our 5-0 win against Bolton was an incredible day, I opened this thread hoping that we had returned to neutral venues (as in non Wembley) for the semi finals. It’s fucking ridiculous the semis are at Wembley, especially with all these big capacity stadiums now. Spurs, Arsenal, Man City, Man United, Newcastle, Liverpool all 60k plus
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 5, 2023 18:12:07 GMT
Even though our 5-0 win against Bolton was an incredible day, I opened this thread hoping that we had returned to neutral venues (as in non Wembley) for the semi finals. Not often I don’t agree with you mick but I couldn’t get a final ticket because of corporate as we didn’t get a great amount. I went to the semi which obviously was amazing. Being a stoke fan since the early 74 and not being able to get tickets for the final was heartbreaking but with going to the semi true fans can get there. Not saying that it wasn’t true fans at the final but the corporate section made it impossible for non season ticket holders.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 5, 2023 18:13:09 GMT
Playing the final alongside Prem fixtures is nothing new is it, it happened when we got there (I think for the first time)
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Post by wembley4372 on Jul 5, 2023 19:05:21 GMT
Draw the thing from the beginning including 128 clubs and let chance rule the outcome. Play it on a Saturday it’s only seven games.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 5, 2023 19:15:35 GMT
Even though our 5-0 win against Bolton was an incredible day, I opened this thread hoping that we had returned to neutral venues (as in non Wembley) for the semi finals. Not often I don’t agree with you mick but I couldn’t get a final ticket because of corporate as we didn’t get a great amount. I went to the semi which obviously was amazing. Being a stoke fan since the early 74 and not being able to get tickets for the final was heartbreaking but with going to the semi true fans can get there. Not saying that it wasn’t true fans at the final but the corporate section made it impossible for non season ticket holders. Yeah I know what you mean mate. We only got allocated around 25,000 each for the final didn’t we?
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jul 5, 2023 19:20:44 GMT
I think scrapping replays has some merit. Playing in midweek and the Final mixed in with other fixtures certainly has not. For lower league clubs, the replay can be a big deal financially. And a season highlight whether home or away.
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Post by BuzzB on Jul 5, 2023 21:57:22 GMT
This is what happens when the like of Klopp etc complain about fixture congestion. If they hadn't piss balled about with the European competitions, meaning when you lose you are out, not put into the lower competition, twice! It would go a long way to a clearer fixture list. As said, the FA cup is the lifeline for many non/lower league teams, the fans love it too, its a madness!! I haven't read the article but I wonder what the reasoning behind this brainfart is??
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