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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 8, 2023 19:59:21 GMT
On the way back from the game today I wasn’t. Now I’ve sat down for 10 mins and had a beer I’m over it, it’s what being a football fan is all about, clean slate and fresh excitement going into a new season…… Well said. At the end of the day it’s a game, no more and it shouldn’t rule your life like it does some on here
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Post by gingerninja on May 8, 2023 20:00:17 GMT
I didn't think we played badly today, we were quite fluent at times in fact. He was spot on in his post match interview, he couldn't legislate for a quality finish and a scrappy deflected shot. It sums our season up in a nutshell. At times we have played really well, we've just not often enough and given away soft goals..I think we will be so much better next season.
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Post by bunnyscfc on May 8, 2023 20:00:52 GMT
I’d say more open minded than excited. It’s a clean slate and I don’t entirely subscribe to the doom mongering. Exactly where I'm at. 6th wouldn't surprise me. Nor would 16th. And therein lies the irrestible pull of it all! 6th? Don’t drink any more tonight mate. Club is only heading one way….
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Post by sticky on May 8, 2023 20:03:53 GMT
Very intrigued to see who we sign, how we set up etc.. but also concerned it’s going to turn to shit early doors
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Post by Olgrligm on May 8, 2023 20:06:41 GMT
I am, honestly.
I'm pinning a lot of hope on the three-month purple patch. It's not like we were in any way lucky; we genuinely outplayed teams and administered well-deserved hammerings. It can't have been a complete fluke.
You've got to have some hope and I'm pinning mine on Neil being able to get in players who suit him and being able to put them through a proper fitness regime.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2023 20:10:39 GMT
I am, honestly. I'm pinning a lot of hope on the three-month purple patch. It's not like we were in any way lucky; we genuinely outplayed teams and administered well-deserved hammerings. It can't have been a complete fluke. You've got to have some hope and I'm pinning mine on Neil being able to get in players who suit him and being able to put them through a proper fitness regime. 3 month? It was 6 weeks, technically it spanned 3 months I guess 🤷♂️🤣 Swansea away - 21st Feb to Cov away - 1st April It was a blip.
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Post by march4 on May 8, 2023 20:11:45 GMT
Successful and experienced manager who knows the club.
A chance to rid the club of the players who are unwanted.
Money in the bank.
No FFP worries.
Excellent form for a portion of the season absolutely thrashing teams in the play offs.
I’ve been excited for next season since the January transfer window after seeing the quality of players the manager brought to the club.
For someone who is perpetually pessimistic I am uncharacteristically bullish about next season.
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 8, 2023 20:19:35 GMT
I’m absolutely pissing my pants with excitement.
The day is not over and I can hardly wait for next season already.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 8, 2023 20:19:45 GMT
I am, honestly. I'm pinning a lot of hope on the three-month purple patch. It's not like we were in any way lucky; we genuinely outplayed teams and administered well-deserved hammerings. It can't have been a complete fluke. You've got to have some hope and I'm pinning mine on Neil being able to get in players who suit him and being able to put them through a proper fitness regime. 3 month? It was 6 weeks, technically it spanned 3 months I guess 🤷♂️🤣 Swansea away - 21st Feb to Cov away - 1st April It was a blip. It started mid-Jan after the loanees went back. We beat Reading 4-0, scored three in the Cup against Stevenage (for whatever that's worth), lost to a 30 yard punt against the third best team in the league, drew at home to in-form Hull, put three past Huddersfield, battered Blackpool either side of conceding a stupid goal, put three past Swansea and then had our customary crap game against Rowett. We'd been very obviously moving towards our good form over a period of weeks before it really kicked in. That, again, is enough for me to say that it was more than just a flukey run.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2023 20:22:34 GMT
3 month? It was 6 weeks, technically it spanned 3 months I guess 🤷♂️🤣 Swansea away - 21st Feb to Cov away - 1st April It was a blip. It started mid-Jan after the loanees went back. We beat Reading 4-0, scored three in the Cup against Stevenage (for whatever that's worth), lost to a 30 yard punt against the third best team in the league, drew at home to in-form Hull, put three past Huddersfield, battered Blackpool either side of conceding a stupid goal, put three past Swansea and then had our customary crap game against Rowett. We'd been very obviously moving towards our good form over a period of weeks before it really kicked in. That, again, is enough for me to say that it was more than just a flukey run. That’s a very big stretch. You’re including a time that had a 0-0 at home against Hull, the dour game against Millwall at home. We were shit. March saved us. March was the purple patch. March was an absolute blip.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on May 8, 2023 20:30:26 GMT
I was, then I wasn’t then I was again then I decided it’ll be more self inflicted misery again next season 🙈
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Post by blackpoolred on May 8, 2023 20:32:38 GMT
We need the summer off to get over the excitement of this season It's about as beige as it gets - I am actually bored. All this talk about the next window and the big rebuild - but we will still start next season with square pegs and gapping holes in an unbalanced squad - you don't need to be a psychic to predict that or that when this manager fails he will be replaced by another dour British one - rinse and repeat. I think this guy has a bit of potential and worth a shot - have my doubts he can build a team based on the last window though. I think the answer is "No" to the original question
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 8, 2023 20:38:23 GMT
I don’t think a blip where you just batter teams for a few games out of nowhere for no reason is a thing. That’s not how blips work.
It was the germ of how Neil wants us to play long term. It happened because he’s made some signings who enabled that and because we were playing teams who enabled it - away from home teams came at us and gave us space to hit them hard on the counter. Blackburn at home came at us the same way.
We faltered I think because we had a few homes games in a row and we can’t break teams down at home. And then when it became clear we were safe but weren’t going to sneak into the play offs, players and, more worryingly, manager seemed to write the whole thing off.
Obviously the above is pretty bad, and the inability to sort things at home is frustrating/worrying. I think we did briefly see the blueprint for what Neil wants though. The right signings and a few tweaks and we’ll see more of that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2023 20:40:45 GMT
I don’t think a blip where you just batter teams for a few games out of nowhere for no reason is a thing. That’s not how blips work. It was the germ of how Neil wants us to play long term. It happened because he’s made some signings who enabled that and because we were playing teams who enabled it - away from home teams came at us and gave us space to hit them hard on the counter. Blackburn at home came at us the same way. We faltered I think because we had a few homes games in a row and we can’t break teams down at home. And then when it became clear we were safe but weren’t going to sneak into the play offs, players and, more worryingly, manager seemed to write the whole thing off. Obviously the above is pretty bad, and the inability to sort things at home is frustrating/worrying. I think we did briefly see the blueprint for what Neil wants though. The right signings and a few tweaks and we’ll see more of that. A blip is a short term thing. It was exactly that. We got lucky for a time and then went back to the norm.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 8, 2023 20:49:58 GMT
I don’t think a blip where you just batter teams for a few games out of nowhere for no reason is a thing. That’s not how blips work. It was the germ of how Neil wants us to play long term. It happened because he’s made some signings who enabled that and because we were playing teams who enabled it - away from home teams came at us and gave us space to hit them hard on the counter. Blackburn at home came at us the same way. We faltered I think because we had a few homes games in a row and we can’t break teams down at home. And then when it became clear we were safe but weren’t going to sneak into the play offs, players and, more worryingly, manager seemed to write the whole thing off. Obviously the above is pretty bad, and the inability to sort things at home is frustrating/worrying. I think we did briefly see the blueprint for what Neil wants though. The right signings and a few tweaks and we’ll see more of that. A blip is a short term thing. It was exactly that. We got lucky for a time and then went back to the norm. ‘Blip’ to me suggests something unfathomable that came from nowhere. That’s not how I see it. You don’t ‘luckily’ bang in 3,4,5 goals for a spell. Again, not a thing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2023 20:53:08 GMT
A blip is a short term thing. It was exactly that. We got lucky for a time and then went back to the norm. ‘Blip’ to me suggests something unfathomable that came from nowhere. That’s not how I see it. You don’t ‘luckily’ bang in 3,4,5 goals for a spell. Again, not a thing. It did? We’ve been dreadful for 90% of the season, proper shit. It absolutely came out of the blue.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 8, 2023 20:56:09 GMT
‘Blip’ to me suggests something unfathomable that came from nowhere. That’s not how I see it. You don’t ‘luckily’ bang in 3,4,5 goals for a spell. Again, not a thing. It did? We’ve been dreadful for 90% of the season, proper shit. It absolutely came out of the blue. It didn’t happen for no reason. It happened partly because of who we were playing and partly because of the new signings helping Neil’s 433 click. ‘We got lucky for X games in a row’ isn’t analysis.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 8, 2023 20:57:31 GMT
It started mid-Jan after the loanees went back. We beat Reading 4-0, scored three in the Cup against Stevenage (for whatever that's worth), lost to a 30 yard punt against the third best team in the league, drew at home to in-form Hull, put three past Huddersfield, battered Blackpool either side of conceding a stupid goal, put three past Swansea and then had our customary crap game against Rowett. We'd been very obviously moving towards our good form over a period of weeks before it really kicked in. That, again, is enough for me to say that it was more than just a flukey run. That’s a very big stretch. You’re including a time that had a 0-0 at home against Hull, the dour game against Millwall at home. We were shit. March saved us. March was the purple patch. March was an absolute blip. Is it a stretch to include a couple of dodgy (but not disastrous) games in a good run of form? The fact that we lost away at Palace and West Brom doesn't mean that we weren't in outstanding form in Christmas 2015, nor does losing 2-0 at home to Watford in the middle of a run of five wins in seven games in the same season. I'm including a run where we scored ten goals across four consecutive home games and dismantled Swansea on their own turf after being utterly hopeless in the preceding months. That was the foundation of the continued progression through to March. Again, if it was just a couple of flukey wins where every shot on target went in, I wouldn't pay much attention. However, we're talking about a sustained period of executing a high-energy game, dominating matches in a way that I haven't seen us do for years and creating good quality chances for fun over a two to three month period. Furthermore, you can pretty easily account for the subsequent loss of form as: 1) The loss of Wilmot leaving us relying on paceless defenders, restricting our ability to play a high-pressing game. 2) The injury to Brown depriving us of our most effective presser and most effective attacker, pretty much ending the press there and then. 3) The referee-induced loss to West Brom absolutely knocking the stuffing out of the team and killing all momentum, along with any remote hopes of finishing near the play-offs. 4) Neil inherited a desperately unfit team that was hampered by persistent injury problems. He'd done a lot of work to build them up during the World Cup so that they were capable of playing a press, but you're only going to be able to keep that up for so long without a proper foundation in pre-season. 5) A complete lack of strength in depth. 6) The manager's strange desire to revert back to 3-5-2 whenever he can't play the exact system that he would like. I acknowledge that this is very much glass half full stuff, but I can genuinely see green shoots. It all depends on our recruitment this summer.
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Post by wearestoke80 on May 8, 2023 20:59:55 GMT
Looking forward to going to new grounds like Plymouth and Ipswich
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2023 21:00:43 GMT
It did? We’ve been dreadful for 90% of the season, proper shit. It absolutely came out of the blue. It didn’t happen for no reason. It happened partly because of who we were playing and partly because of the new signings helping Neil’s 433 click. ‘We got lucky for X games in a row’ isn’t analysis. No it’s what happened.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2023 21:01:54 GMT
That’s a very big stretch. You’re including a time that had a 0-0 at home against Hull, the dour game against Millwall at home. We were shit. March saved us. March was the purple patch. March was an absolute blip. Is it a stretch to include a couple of dodgy (but not disastrous) games in a good run of form? The fact that we lost away at Palace and West Brom doesn't mean that we weren't in outstanding form in Christmas 2015, nor does losing 2-0 at home to Watford in the middle of a run of five wins in seven games in the same season. I'm including a run where we scored ten goals across four consecutive home games and dismantled Swansea on their own turf after being utterly hopeless in the preceding months. That was the foundation of the continued progression through to March. Again, if it was just a couple of flukey wins where every shot on target went in, I wouldn't pay much attention. However, we're talking about a sustained period of executing a high-energy game, dominating matches in a way that I haven't seen us do for years and creating good quality chances for fun over a two to three month period. Furthermore, you can pretty easily account for the subsequent loss of form as: 1) The loss of Wilmot leaving us relying on paceless defenders, restricting our ability to play a high-pressing game. 2) The injury to Brown depriving us of our most effective presser and most effective attacker, pretty much ending the press there and then. 3) The referee-induced loss to West Brom absolutely knocking the stuffing out of the team and killing all momentum, along with any remote hopes of finishing near the play-offs. 4) Neil inherited a desperately unfit team that was hampered by persistent injury problems. He'd done a lot of work to build them up during the World Cup so that they were capable of playing a press, but you're only going to be able to keep that up for so long without a proper foundation in pre-season. 5) A complete lack of strength in depth. 6) The manager's strange desire to revert back to 3-5-2 whenever he can't play the exact system that he would like. I acknowledge that this is very much glass half full stuff, but I can genuinely see green shoots. It all depends on our recruitment this summer. It wasn’t a loss of form. We have been shit for most of the season bar 6 weeks. It was returning to the norm.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 8, 2023 21:02:21 GMT
It didn’t happen for no reason. It happened partly because of who we were playing and partly because of the new signings helping Neil’s 433 click. ‘We got lucky for X games in a row’ isn’t analysis. No it’s what happened. Yeah, that doesn’t happen in football. As a one-off in the odd game, sure. Not beyond that.
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Post by Pugsley on May 8, 2023 21:03:06 GMT
To answer the original question - no one in their right mind.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 8, 2023 21:04:09 GMT
Looking forward to going to new grounds like Plymouth and Ipswich I too am looking forward to getting up at 3am to attend away games
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2023 21:14:43 GMT
Yeah, that doesn’t happen in football. As a one-off in the odd game, sure. Not beyond that. Of course it can. We got lucky and then went back to the norm of being shit. It’s what happened.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 8, 2023 21:20:45 GMT
Yeah, that doesn’t happen in football. As a one-off in the odd game, sure. Not beyond that. Of course it can. We got lucky and then went back to the norm of being shit. It’s what happened. It doesn’t happen for a run of games like that for no reason. I can’t think of another example of that happening for us or anyone else. There are always reasons. The fairies don’t sprinkle magic dust over a team for a brief spell and then it wears off suddenly. I don’t think anyone’s denying that we went shit again. I’m saying the good run happened for a reason and going shit again happened for a reason.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2023 21:21:54 GMT
Of course it can. We got lucky and then went back to the norm of being shit. It’s what happened. It doesn’t happen for a run of games like that for no reason. I can’t think of another example of that happening for us or anyone else. There are always reasons. The fairies don’t sprinkle magic dust over a team for a brief spell and then it wears off suddenly. I don’t think anyone’s denying that we went shit again. I’m saying the good run happened for a reason and going shit again happened for a reason. It was 5/6 games. It’s exactly what a blip is.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 8, 2023 21:25:21 GMT
It doesn’t happen for a run of games like that for no reason. I can’t think of another example of that happening for us or anyone else. There are always reasons. The fairies don’t sprinkle magic dust over a team for a brief spell and then it wears off suddenly. I don’t think anyone’s denying that we went shit again. I’m saying the good run happened for a reason and going shit again happened for a reason. It was 5/6 games. It’s exactly what a blip is. I can only refer you to what I’ve already said. That doesn’t happen. Why do you think it happened then, for those 5/6 games? Talk me through the ‘we got lucky’ in a bit more detail? How so?
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on May 8, 2023 21:28:17 GMT
Currently I am far removed from being excite by this club. We've been fooled at least three times this season if my math is correct. Their inconsistency is mind numbing.
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Post by swampySCFC on May 8, 2023 21:30:13 GMT
AN has been average earlier on and appalling in the last 7 games. He’s nowt special
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