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Post by tommycarlsberg on Aug 13, 2023 12:52:20 GMT
Nobody on here seems to have any optimism about him turning his injury record around?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2023 12:54:13 GMT
It's only based on a throwaway tweet from Darren Witcoop, who doesn't seem that confident of what he's saying
We've only got room for one more centre-back, and Neil couldn't have been much clearer he's looking for a proper left-sided one, so doubt there's much prospect of Tuanzebe turning up now.
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Post by twobanksoffour on Aug 13, 2023 13:21:32 GMT
The fact he didn't take it upon himself to get a club sorted for pre season with his fitness record is a gigantic red flag for me. Yeah, although he's far from the only one. I guess they think that if they bide their time, they'll get better offers as the pool of available players reduces. Plenty here who you'd think could have got a club by now if they wanted to: www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/vertragslosespieler
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 13, 2023 13:29:40 GMT
Nobody on here seems to have any optimism about him turning his injury record around? He’s been involved with football for about 7 years. In that time, he’s managed less than 100 league and cup appearances. He’s a (barely) walking sick-note. No club should be stupid enough to offer him a decent contract.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 13, 2023 14:22:49 GMT
The fact he didn't take it upon himself to get a club sorted for pre season with his fitness record is a gigantic red flag for me. Yeah, although he's far from the only one. I guess they think that if they bide their time, they'll get better offers as the pool of available players reduces. Plenty here who you'd think could have got a club by now if they wanted to: www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/vertragslosespielerI know why players do it but in his specific case, surely he needed to be with a club and training with the team in pre season? he's going to be playing catch up yet again with whoever he signs for.
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 13, 2023 14:40:23 GMT
been saying for over a month now he should have done proper pre season training at a club,i am sure if he had asked to train down here he would have been allowed, so for me i would not take a chance on him now matter how good people think he is, its a big risk not worth taking if Man Utd could not get him fit with there top physio,s what chance have any body else got,
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 13, 2023 14:41:22 GMT
He's now the sort of luxury we can no longer afford.
Can you really throw all that money at one player with his injury record and severe lack of pre season training with a club? Cause I know I wouldn't.
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 13, 2023 14:55:49 GMT
been saying for over a month now he should have done proper pre season training at a club,i am sure if he had asked to train down here he would have been allowed, so for me i would not take a chance on him now matter how good people think he is, its a big risk not worth taking if Man Utd could not get him fit with there top physio,s what chance have any body else got, Absolutely mate. He's had more breakdown's than the RAC!
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Post by st3mark on Aug 13, 2023 15:06:44 GMT
If we are interested in him we should have had him on trial all summer to judge his fitness.
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Post by fraybentos on Aug 13, 2023 15:09:06 GMT
Would massively improve our defence
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Post by chell_rosey on Aug 13, 2023 15:12:46 GMT
Would massively improve our defence Occasionally...
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 13, 2023 15:16:26 GMT
He's now the sort of luxury we can no longer afford. Can you really throw all that money at one player with his injury record and severe lack of pre season training with a club? Cause I know I wouldn't. On the contrary, he is a luxury we now can afford as we have 3 other fit and available centre backs to cover if he gets injured.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2023 15:17:16 GMT
Would massively improve our defence For about 5 games a season he would.
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Post by fraybentos on Aug 13, 2023 15:20:15 GMT
Would massively improve our defence Occasionally... He would be worth the gamble
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Post by st3mark on Aug 13, 2023 15:25:57 GMT
He's now the sort of luxury we can no longer afford. Can you really throw all that money at one player with his injury record and severe lack of pre season training with a club? Cause I know I wouldn't. On the contrary, he is a luxury we now can afford as we have 3 other fit and available centre backs to cover if he gets injured. I don't consider a defender who plays 8 games a season a luxury. I'd have him if we've got the wage budget but id want us to sign another CB and he'd be the 5th CB option. If he's fit he starts and if not then this needs to be reflected in his pay. Not pay as you play but a significant appearance fee to promote his desire to be available. People won't like this but Tuanzebe unfortunately is in the Gerry Taggart zone. He's crocked and if he wants to play regularly for anyone and earn his brass it will require regular injections, treatment table before the game, after the game and at half time. He's welcome to retire which would be a shame because hes got much to offer, but the people who pay his wages are going to want something back for it. He's got to make a decision on whether the money is worth putting his body on the line or whether he needs to consider other career options.
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Post by chell_rosey on Aug 13, 2023 15:31:57 GMT
He would be worth the gamble Without FFP, definitely.
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Post by fraybentos on Aug 13, 2023 15:38:50 GMT
On the contrary, he is a luxury we now can afford as we have 3 other fit and available centre backs to cover if he gets injured. I don't consider a defender who plays 8 games a season a luxury. I'd have him if we've got the wage budget but id want us to sign another CB and he'd be the 5th CB option. If he's fit he starts and if not then this needs to be reflected in his pay. Not pay as you play but a significant appearance fee to promote his desire to be available. People won't like this but Tuanzebe unfortunately is in the Gerry Taggart zone. He's crocked and if he wants to play regularly for anyone and earn his brass it will require regular injections, treatment table before the game, after the game and at half time. He's welcome to retire which would be a shame because hes got much to offer, but the people who pay his wages are going to want something back for it. He's got to make a decision on whether the money is worth putting his body on the line or whether he needs to consider other career options. With the Wesley deal, we have showed we can take gambles on these type of players. A massive upgraded. Lets hope we get him, no doubt he'll end up at Luton or somewhere bottom end of the prem
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Post by cvillestokie on Aug 13, 2023 15:42:36 GMT
I don't consider a defender who plays 8 games a season a luxury. I'd have him if we've got the wage budget but id want us to sign another CB and he'd be the 5th CB option. If he's fit he starts and if not then this needs to be reflected in his pay. Not pay as you play but a significant appearance fee to promote his desire to be available. People won't like this but Tuanzebe unfortunately is in the Gerry Taggart zone. He's crocked and if he wants to play regularly for anyone and earn his brass it will require regular injections, treatment table before the game, after the game and at half time. He's welcome to retire which would be a shame because hes got much to offer, but the people who pay his wages are going to want something back for it. He's got to make a decision on whether the money is worth putting his body on the line or whether he needs to consider other career options. With the Wesley deal, we have showed we can take gambles on these type of players. A massive upgraded. Lets hope we get him, no doubt he'll end up at Luton or somewhere bottom end of the prem Is Wesley an appropriate comparison? He’s already proven fitness by playing a full season of football last year.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2023 15:43:56 GMT
I find it hard to believe that Tuanzebe isn't training somewhere. Do we know for sure that this is the case?
It would be really stupid on his part with his injury record.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 13, 2023 16:08:13 GMT
A no brainer for me. Quality addition, fingers crossed for a good run of games.
The amount of money we have wasted these last few years, a punt on Tuanzebe seems well worth the money
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 13, 2023 16:36:17 GMT
As a fourth CB no. But if we can get a reliable old bastards at CB as well why not take the chance? If it comes off we've got the best CB by a country mile in the team.
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Post by fca47 on Aug 13, 2023 17:21:03 GMT
If he isn't training with anyone, and can't be bothered to get fit for the beginning of the season, he's putting money before football, poor attitude, wouldn't touch him with a bargepole.
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Post by independent on Aug 13, 2023 18:07:32 GMT
A no brainer for me. Quality addition, fingers crossed for a good run of games. The amount of money we have wasted these last few years, a punt on Tuanzebe seems well worth the money What amount of money have we wasted in the last 3 years? Tuanzebe was reported to be on 63k a week at Man.Utd. Why should we gamble when we don't have to do so. We should be spending the money we have on permanent first team players who will be the foundations that we will build onto next year. I think only a fool would think that Tuanzebe would fit those criteria. We already have enough players that we will have to replace next year.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 13, 2023 18:20:43 GMT
A no brainer for me. Quality addition, fingers crossed for a good run of games. The amount of money we have wasted these last few years, a punt on Tuanzebe seems well worth the money What amount of money have we wasted in the last 3 years? Tuanzebe was reported to be on 63k a week at Man.Utd. Why should we gamble when we don't have to do so. We should be spending the money we have on permanent first team players who will be the foundations that we will build onto next year. I think only a fool would think that Tuanzebe would fit those criteria. We already have enough players that we will have to replace next year. Sima Moore Kilkenny Celina Delap Flint Norrington-Davis To name a few. Tuanzebe ‘Could’ play almost every week, Vidigal might do his ACL and not play till March. There’s risk in all signings. Ok he’s had injury issues but this would be reflected in his salary, something that he’s clearly coming to grips with (no offers as yet) as other clubs will be offering less than he’s used to.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 13, 2023 18:24:27 GMT
What amount of money have we wasted in the last 3 years? Tuanzebe was reported to be on 63k a week at Man.Utd. Why should we gamble when we don't have to do so. We should be spending the money we have on permanent first team players who will be the foundations that we will build onto next year. I think only a fool would think that Tuanzebe would fit those criteria. We already have enough players that we will have to replace next year. Sima Moore Kilkenny Celina Delap Flint Norrington-Davis To name a few. Tuanzebe ‘Could’ play almost every week, Vidigal might do his ACL and not play till March. There’s risk in all signings. Ok he’s had injury issues but this would be reflected in his salary, something that he’s clearly coming to grips with (no offers as yet) as other clubs will be offering less than he’s used to. Gayle We've pissed money away for 2 decades
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Post by independent on Aug 13, 2023 18:31:12 GMT
Gayle, I would probably agree , even though lots of clubs wanted him and AN keeps playing him. The others altogether cost buttons. How much do you think we paid over 5 months for the few games that Axel played for us last year?
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 13, 2023 18:37:18 GMT
Gayle, I would probably agree , even though lots of clubs wanted him and AN keeps playing him. The others altogether cost buttons. How much do you think we paid over 5 months for the few games that Axel played for us last year? I don't think we should sign him, I'm just pointing out we waste money year on year. We always have.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 13, 2023 18:56:05 GMT
Gayle, I would probably agree , even though lots of clubs wanted him and AN keeps playing him. The others altogether cost buttons. How much do you think we paid over 5 months for the few games that Axel played for us last year? No one can predict whether a player will stay fit. Due diligence get it done obvs. But money it’s spent on so many gambles, every signing is. So many factors, fitness is one. We could spend 500k and sign an absolute dick (and we have signed a few of these) who does nothing but disrupt things. Given what little I (we) know about Tuanzebe I’d give it a go.
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Post by independent on Aug 13, 2023 19:00:42 GMT
I think it would be a crazy gamble and it seems a lot of other clubs agree as he still hasn't signed for anyone yet. When I gamble I like to have favourable odds. If we do sign him I hope we get lucky.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 13, 2023 19:08:18 GMT
For the right deal it's a no brainer!
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