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Post by kanescfc1 on Apr 18, 2023 11:39:45 GMT
Favourite for reading job
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Post by stokesaint1 on Apr 18, 2023 11:49:23 GMT
Favourite for reading job No disrespect but I hope, for their sake, he does a better job with the defence than he appears to have done with ours. Or is that being unfair? |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 18, 2023 11:57:27 GMT
Favourite for reading job No disrespect but I hope, for their sake, he does a better job with the defence than he appears to have done with ours. Or is that being unfair? Don't know about being unfair seems a bit thick to me. Our defence has looked more than adequate at defending with the bonus of output at the other end too when the first choice personel are available. When we're forced to field a clearly finished player however, is that John O'Shea's fault? |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Apr 18, 2023 12:15:53 GMT
No disrespect but I hope, for their sake, he does a better job with the defence than he appears to have done with ours. Or is that being unfair? Don't know about being unfair seems a bit thick to me. Our defence has looked more than adequate at defending with the bonus of output at the other end too when the first choice personel are available. When we're forced to field a clearly finished player however, is that John O'Shea's fault? I think thick would better refer to the crazy mistakes we make defensively on a far too regular basis. I would remind you of our home record this season. You only lose that many by conceding more than we actually score. |
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Post by lordb on Apr 18, 2023 12:18:32 GMT
Favourite for reading job No disrespect but I hope, for their sake, he does a better job with the defence than he appears to have done with ours. Or is that being unfair? it is unfair we have conceded 49 goals which is 11th best in the division, i.e, average also we have scored 54 which is 7th best, above average we just lose 1.0 a lot |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Apr 18, 2023 12:22:52 GMT
Don't know about being unfair seems a bit thick to me. Our defence has looked more than adequate at defending with the bonus of output at the other end too when the first choice personel are available. When we're forced to field a clearly finished player however, is that John O'Shea's fault? I think thick would better refer to the crazy mistakes we make defensively on a far too regular basis. I would remind you of our home record this season. You only lose that many by conceding more than we actually score. I would also add that the clearly finished player you refer to was the automatic first choice, when available, until very recently. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 18, 2023 12:24:49 GMT
I think thick would better refer to the crazy mistakes we make defensively on a far too regular basis. I would remind you of our home record this season. You only lose that many by conceding more than we actually score. I would also add that the clearly finished player you refer to was the automatic first choice, when available, until very recently. People looking at his past career instead of his performances, he's been a liability for most of the season. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 18, 2023 12:26:35 GMT
No disrespect but I hope, for their sake, he does a better job with the defence than he appears to have done with ours. Or is that being unfair? it is unfair we have conceded 49 goals which is 11th best in the division, i.e, average also we have scored 54 which is 7th best, above average we just lose 1.0 a lot Facts eh! They won't be popular. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 18, 2023 12:28:38 GMT
Don't know about being unfair seems a bit thick to me. Our defence has looked more than adequate at defending with the bonus of output at the other end too when the first choice personel are available. When we're forced to field a clearly finished player however, is that John O'Shea's fault? I think thick would better refer to the crazy mistakes we make defensively on a far too regular basis. I would remind you of our home record this season. You only lose that many by conceding more than we actually score. Humans make mistakes and the other team score sometimes it would be boring as fuk if they didn't. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 18, 2023 12:32:36 GMT
No disrespect but I hope, for their sake, he does a better job with the defence than he appears to have done with ours. Or is that being unfair? it is unfair we have conceded 49 goals which is 11th best in the division, i.e, average also we have scored 54 which is 7th best, above average we just lose 1.0 a lot We make an awful lot of defensive howlers. We lose 1.0 a lot for those reasons. You don’t have to be thrashed to have a questionable defence, you just have to have a defence that constantly loses concentration and struggles with the same issues game after game (e.g. flat balls over the top). I don’t think that O’Shea has done a bad job though, but we are not exactly a fortress either. If he goes, good luck to him. I don’t believe he’s taken on a management role before, right? Hopefully, he does well. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 18, 2023 12:35:55 GMT
it is unfair we have conceded 49 goals which is 11th best in the division, i.e, average also we have scored 54 which is 7th best, above average we just lose 1.0 a lot We make an awful lot of defensive howlers. We lose 1.0 a lot for those reasons. You don’t have to be thrashed to have a questionable defence, you just have to have a defence that constantly loses concentration and struggles with the same issues game after game (e.g. flat balls over the top). I don’t think that O’Shea has done a bad job though, but we are not exactly a fortress either. Personel issues leave you with certain vulnerability and force you to adopt less than ideal tactics. When we have our choice of personel we look more than adequate. |
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Post by LGH87 on Apr 18, 2023 12:53:08 GMT
If O'Shea goes we've lost both first team coaches, more recruitment needed.
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Post by redstriper on Apr 18, 2023 13:17:46 GMT
I'm wishing him all the best at Reading, go John - and send QPR down!
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 18, 2023 13:25:36 GMT
it is unfair we have conceded 49 goals which is 11th best in the division, i.e, average also we have scored 54 which is 7th best, above average we just lose 1.0 a lot We make an awful lot of defensive howlers. We lose 1.0 a lot for those reasons. You don’t have to be thrashed to have a questionable defence, you just have to have a defence that constantly loses concentration and struggles with the same issues game after game (e.g. flat balls over the top). I don’t think that O’Shea has done a bad job though, but we are not exactly a fortress either. If he goes, good luck to him. I don’t believe he’s taken on a management role before, right? Hopefully, he does well. We make a lot of individual errors agreed, but they are not down to the coaching or system, just poor decision making. As Neil said in the article this morning, while players are learning what you want from them they are going to make mistakes. They sit down 1:1 with them and talk about mistakes and why they chose to make them and in time they will make less mistakes hopefully. We do seem to have cut down our mistakes so perhaps it is working. |
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Post by lordb on Apr 18, 2023 13:46:37 GMT
it is unfair we have conceded 49 goals which is 11th best in the division, i.e, average also we have scored 54 which is 7th best, above average we just lose 1.0 a lot Facts eh! They won't be popular. Tbh was surprised when I looked at the table We very rarely lose by more than the odd goal but we do win by by a fair few |
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 18, 2023 14:48:07 GMT
Was he a coach at Reading previously?.
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Post by PotterLog on Apr 18, 2023 14:59:29 GMT
Is he actually specifically responsible for coaching our defence or is that just an assumption based on the position he played
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 18, 2023 18:36:41 GMT
Was he a coach at Reading previously?. Yeah his first coaching job |
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Post by TinkerT on Apr 18, 2023 18:38:27 GMT
Compared to the stupid mistakes our defence used to make before he arrived, at least they aren't as bad now.
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 23, 2023 12:46:04 GMT
Seen nothing more on this one, assume there was nothing in it?? . I still think we are a coach light since Rory left..
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Post by gingerninja on May 2, 2023 6:53:17 GMT
It's all gone quiet on this one, from memory they haven't appointed anyone yet, possibly waiting to see what division they are in next season?.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 2, 2023 7:18:00 GMT
Seen nothing more on this one, assume there was nothing in it?? . I still think we are a coach light since Rory left.. Jagielka ? |
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Post by chell_rosey on May 2, 2023 7:37:34 GMT
Seen nothing more on this one, assume there was nothing in it?? . I still think we are a coach light since Rory left.. Jagielka ? Good call. |
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Post by gingerninja on May 2, 2023 8:19:01 GMT
As far as I am aware Jageilka has no coaching experience etc, just before he was /is a good pro, doesn't mean he will make a good coach.
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Post by J-Roar on May 2, 2023 8:39:50 GMT
As far as I am aware Jageilka has no coaching experience etc, just before he was /is a good pro, doesn't mean he will make a good coach. Knows the club... |
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Post by femark on May 2, 2023 9:24:49 GMT
Not even got his coaching badges... |
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Post by chell_rosey on May 2, 2023 9:34:00 GMT
Not even got his coaching badges... Oh. Has O'Shea? They don't seem to be working for him.... 😂 |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 2, 2023 12:43:12 GMT
Could do his badges during the summer. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 2, 2023 13:21:41 GMT
Could do his badges during the summer. It would take him the summer to get his level 1 badge which is the bare minimum you need at grass roots level. Don't the UEFA Pro badges take about 18 months or something similar? If we're talking about ex pros why not try and get Shawcross back who is, from all accounts, a good up and coming coach. |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 12, 2023 14:34:15 GMT
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