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Post by bertieb on May 8, 2023 14:21:46 GMT
No future for DWP at this club, he hates Alex Neil, he's a good lad apparently,professional and trains really well, but just can't displace a contracted player of the year contender at his current loan club, hence lack of appearances, that's from a couple of people within his current club. So who's he told that "he hates Alex Neil" or is this "apparently" as well? Gouranga. who's he told?the clue is at the end of my post!
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Post by march4 on May 8, 2023 14:35:45 GMT
Frees up more wage space if he leaves.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 8, 2023 15:05:51 GMT
Honestly, it would have suited him better to have gone a division (or two) lower and got minutes. He needs a campaign under his belt. I don’t see him being in our squad next season, so a better loan is what I hope for. It would probably be in his own best interests if he went up a division, not down, probably after being freed by us. He's too good for a club that doesn't know how to play football at a proper level on a consistent basis or doesn't know how to plan long term for a talented youth, because we keep changing managers. He's a huge talent, can run rings around defenders and score goals. He will play for England one day, if he doesn't land in the Stoke scrapyards first. And no, my name is not Ian. Play for England one day? Based on what? He’s not done anything yet in senior football. Honestly, I don’t care what’s best for him. I’m a Stoke fan, I care what’s best for us.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 8, 2023 16:09:58 GMT
So who's he told that "he hates Alex Neil" or is this "apparently" as well? Gouranga. who's he told?the clue is at the end of my post! There's a funny smell in the air yet I can't see any bulls. Gouranga.
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Post by jokker on May 8, 2023 17:27:38 GMT
It would probably be in his own best interests if he went up a division, not down, probably after being freed by us. He's too good for a club that doesn't know how to play football at a proper level on a consistent basis or doesn't know how to plan long term for a talented youth, because we keep changing managers. He's a huge talent, can run rings around defenders and score goals. He will play for England one day, if he doesn't land in the Stoke scrapyards first. And no, my name is not Ian. Play for England one day? Based on what? He’s not done anything yet in senior football. Honestly, I don’t care what’s best for him. I’m a Stoke fan, I care what’s best for us. Based on his talents. How can he "do anything yet" when his managers don't play him. Surely you're not suggesting that they know what they're doing...
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Post by robwahlmann on May 8, 2023 18:22:07 GMT
From what I've seen of Celina so far I'd rather have kept DWP at the club. Never understood the Celina signing at all, for some reason Neil thought he's a winger but he's not. Could only work with him in an attacking mid position, but I honestly don't think he is good enough.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2023 18:27:07 GMT
Honestly, it would have suited him better to have gone a division (or two) lower and got minutes. He needs a campaign under his belt. I don’t see him being in our squad next season, so a better loan is what I hope for. It would probably be in his own best interests if he went up a division, not down, probably after being freed by us. He's too good for a club that doesn't know how to play football at a proper level on a consistent basis or doesn't know how to plan long term for a talented youth, because we keep changing managers. He's a huge talent, can run rings around defenders and score goals. He will play for England one day, if he doesn't land in the Stoke scrapyards first. And no, my name is not Ian. Is it Richard?
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Post by pottersrule on May 8, 2023 18:39:01 GMT
He's young and will improve. Better to get rid of Powell. From what I’ve seen he will struggle to get regular games at Stoke.He is very lightweight and rarely impacts games.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 8, 2023 18:57:32 GMT
Play for England one day? Based on what? He’s not done anything yet in senior football. Honestly, I don’t care what’s best for him. I’m a Stoke fan, I care what’s best for us. Based on his talents. How can he "do anything yet" when his managers don't play him. Surely you're not suggesting that they know what they're doing... Not really, no. I just haven’t seen any talents that would likely get him into an England squad, ever. He’s 21 and has played about 30 senior games. I think he’s good enough to be used by Stoke but at no point have I ever sat there and thought, “that’s the guy who’ll be replacing Raheem Sterling in two years time”. Which talents in which games have you seen that make you think that? I just don’t see it.
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Post by iamstokie on May 8, 2023 19:01:42 GMT
he’s not good enough for league football, never mind the championship
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Post by bertieb on May 8, 2023 20:19:19 GMT
who's he told?the clue is at the end of my post! There's a funny smell in the air yet I can't see any bulls. Gouranga. Got told something, so I posted it, but you'd rather post a snidey comment than just move on if you don't believe it, and yet I've still probably posted less shit than you. gouranga
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Post by roylandstoke on May 8, 2023 20:25:47 GMT
Couldn’t get into a winning team at Northampton, but must have been a better option than Celina.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2023 22:48:27 GMT
He should have played pretty regular for us this season given our options.
More awful management.
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Post by march4 on May 8, 2023 22:53:03 GMT
He should have played pretty regular for us this season given our options. More awful management. Wrong yet again.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 8, 2023 22:56:03 GMT
He should have played pretty regular for us this season given our options. More awful management. Wrong yet again. Ah yeah Celina and Hoever and Smallbone much better wing options. 🤦♂️🤦♂️😂
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 8, 2023 23:34:13 GMT
Honestly, it would have suited him better to have gone a division (or two) lower and got minutes. He needs a campaign under his belt. I don’t see him being in our squad next season, so a better loan is what I hope for. It would probably be in his own best interests if he went up a division, not down, probably after being freed by us. He's too good for a club that doesn't know how to play football at a proper level on a consistent basis or doesn't know how to plan long term for a talented youth, because we keep changing managers. He's a huge talent, can run rings around defenders and score goals. He will play for England one day, if he doesn't land in the Stoke scrapyards first. And no, my name is not Ian. Pisser, he's not good enough for any team at this level as it stands. He's got some potential and planing long term for young players tends to include sending them out on loan to get mins which is what happened and should have happened sooner.
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Post by jokker on May 9, 2023 3:15:28 GMT
He's young and will improve. Better to get rid of Powell. From what I’ve seen he will struggle to get regular games at Stoke.He is very lightweight and rarely impacts games. How many times have you seen him?
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Post by jokker on May 9, 2023 3:18:12 GMT
It would probably be in his own best interests if he went up a division, not down, probably after being freed by us. He's too good for a club that doesn't know how to play football at a proper level on a consistent basis or doesn't know how to plan long term for a talented youth, because we keep changing managers. He's a huge talent, can run rings around defenders and score goals. He will play for England one day, if he doesn't land in the Stoke scrapyards first. And no, my name is not Ian. Pisser, he's not good enough for any team at this level as it stands. He's got some potential and planing long term for young players tends to include sending them out on loan to get mins which is what happened and should have happened sooner. Except he got very few minutes, so the loan was a waste of time, as is often the case with loans where there is no clear purpose with it.
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Post by jokker on May 9, 2023 3:20:57 GMT
Based on his talents. How can he "do anything yet" when his managers don't play him. Surely you're not suggesting that they know what they're doing... Not really, no. I just haven’t seen any talents that would likely get him into an England squad, ever. He’s 21 and has played about 30 senior games. I think he’s good enough to be used by Stoke but at no point have I ever sat there and thought, “that’s the guy who’ll be replacing Raheem Sterling in two years time”. Which talents in which games have you seen that make you think that? I just don’t see it. Pace and the ability to run through defences as if they are not there, though they are. Actually the Sterling comparison is a good one - unless you compare the bearly thirtysomething with the twentysomething and expect the latter to be better than the former.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2023 6:22:34 GMT
Given that Neil likes his little technical 10s, it’s a shame we don’t try DWP there. Agree it was a wasted loan and he needs a permanent move to kickstart his career. Just a real shame because he’s a good player.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 9, 2023 6:36:19 GMT
Not really, no. I just haven’t seen any talents that would likely get him into an England squad, ever. He’s 21 and has played about 30 senior games. I think he’s good enough to be used by Stoke but at no point have I ever sat there and thought, “that’s the guy who’ll be replacing Raheem Sterling in two years time”. Which talents in which games have you seen that make you think that? I just don’t see it. Pace and the ability to run through defences as if they are not there, though they are. Actually the Sterling comparison is a good one - unless you compare the bearly thirtysomething with the twentysomething and expect the latter to be better than the former. In order for the latter to be picked I would expect the latter to better than the former. You don't win games by fielding the team that might be the best option in a year's time - you win games by picking the team that is best equipped to win the next game. DWP just isn't equipped to deal with senior football at the moment. If he can't break through in League 2 he is definitely not ready for the Championship. If the club brought in a reserve player from a League 2 side in the summer there would be a meltdown on here - even as a squad player let alone as a first team regular.
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Post by lordb on May 9, 2023 7:35:59 GMT
Ah yeah Celina and Hoever and Smallbone much better wing options. 🤦♂️🤦♂️😂 Hoevre might be When did Smallbone play on the wing?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 9, 2023 12:22:23 GMT
Ah yeah Celina and Hoever and Smallbone much better wing options. 🤦♂️🤦♂️😂 Hoevre might be When did Smallbone play on the wing? Yesterday
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Post by gingerninja on May 9, 2023 12:26:28 GMT
I actually thought our midfield generally played with a lot more fluidity than before. Pearson seemed to be encouraged to carry the ball forward and Thompson interchanged quite a lot.. Laurant is a odd one, either very good or very poor. A number 10 he is not👊
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Post by cvillestokie on May 9, 2023 12:28:43 GMT
Not really, no. I just haven’t seen any talents that would likely get him into an England squad, ever. He’s 21 and has played about 30 senior games. I think he’s good enough to be used by Stoke but at no point have I ever sat there and thought, “that’s the guy who’ll be replacing Raheem Sterling in two years time”. Which talents in which games have you seen that make you think that? I just don’t see it. Pace and the ability to run through defences as if they are not there, though they are. Actually the Sterling comparison is a good one - unless you compare the bearly thirtysomething with the twentysomething and expect the latter to be better than the former. You mean at U21, right? Because apart from “that” Hull game when he played up top with Brown, he’s not done anything of the sort. Once teams started compiling scouting reports on him, he became a bit of a non-entity. I still like him and I think he has a chance of making it in football, hopefully even as high as in the Championship with us, but England?! Sterling moved to Man City for over £40 million at around the same age as DWP is now. DWP probably wouldn’t even command a fee right now.
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Post by pottersrule on May 9, 2023 13:12:28 GMT
From what I’ve seen he will struggle to get regular games at Stoke.He is very lightweight and rarely impacts games. How many times have you seen him? At least a dozen and the only half decent performance was Hull away.The fact he hasn't made a start during his time out on loan at a league 2 club leads me to believe their manager has the same opinion as me.
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Post by LphPotter on May 9, 2023 13:14:29 GMT
Hoevre might be When did Smallbone play on the wing? Yesterday He played wing back yesterday, which is possibly even worse but still.
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Post by lordb on May 9, 2023 15:11:09 GMT
Hoevre might be When did Smallbone play on the wing? Yesterday No he didn't
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