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Post by BraveSirRobin on Apr 3, 2023 7:24:11 GMT
I hear the sound of straws being clutched.😁 Most certainly 🤣but it isn’t relevant but is heard of. It ain’t going to happen anyway 😂 Probably not....but it has been heard of 😜 |
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Post by march4 on Apr 3, 2023 7:27:30 GMT
When was the last time a team in this division won their last 8 games to sneak into the play-offs? How many did Forest win? 5 of their last 8, losing 2 and drawing 1. |
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Post by ceejays on Apr 3, 2023 7:36:21 GMT
Of course not but it would be a record for us. I guess it is when you are corrected and don’t like that correction. I wasn't corrected because I wasn't wrong. Oh the irony . Memo to Bayern - sometimes you have to eat your words chew your ego swallow your pride and accept you are wrong it’s not giving up it’s called growing up - u r so sanctimonious |
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Post by callas12 on Apr 3, 2023 7:48:27 GMT
It is. I blame lordb. Still I’ll go with in the modern relevant era it’s unheard of. When was the last time a team in this division won their last 8 games to sneak into the play-offs? In 2019 Villa got promoted via the play offs after winning 10 of their last 12 league matches. Coincidentally their run of 10 straight victories came straight after we'd drew 1-1 at our place with them, the Gordon Banks memorial match where Vokes gave us an early 5th minute lead with a tidy back heeled opener! Villa went on a run of 10x straight victories before finishing with a draw and a defeat before the play offs began. This spell of straight wins actually began after Grealish returned from injury & was bang on form for them, it was him that propelled them into the play off positions. Rare to happen, and may not have won all their remaining games but to win 10 of final 12 matches shows it is possible. Still think it's a step to far for us this season but as others have said, let's just enjoy the run in & hopefully we'll have a few more victories to celebrate and let's just see where that takes us. Perhaps this season will end with us just missing out like the season we just missed out last time around, before actually gaining automatic promotion the following season. Remember being totally deflated at Loftus Road after only drawing with QPR and all the other results going against us. That day was always going to be a tricky one for us to sneak into the play offs and so it proved. But the following year we'd improved as a team and bypassed thr play offs to clinch a top 2x spot. That's possibly a more realistic ambition to achieve if we recruit well and get a good start under our belts when the season commences. |
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Post by block29cb on Apr 3, 2023 7:53:09 GMT
If we was to win the next 2, leading up to westbrom and the top six was still 61/62 points then I'd start to dream but right now nope.
There's a reason why we're 200/1 with the bookies.
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Post by apb1 on Apr 3, 2023 8:01:54 GMT
It's so frustrating isn't it? But even if others were to all mess up, 7 straight wins is not going to happen as this is Stoke and we don't do record breaking, or maybe record-equalling, success. Unless you count overturning the south dressing room curse.
Rather than hope in vain, let's use this time to lay a really solid foundation - as happened in 1978 and 2007 - for next season. A combination of an - entirely heard of - unbeaten finish, unity on and off the pitch, and some valuable minutes for our youngsters off the bench will do very nicely in convincing ST holders to renew, squad players to renew, and loan players to make us their home. Then it's assemble the squad Neil really wants, get them running up Alps in pre-season, and bish bosh we're off.
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Post by femark on Apr 3, 2023 8:04:51 GMT
Burnley won 10 consecutive games mid way through the season. Other than that the team with the most consecutive wins is Norwich on 6 and there are a couple of teams on 5.
Highly unlikely, but still possible, probably not for stoke.
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Post by matelot1996 on Apr 3, 2023 8:07:23 GMT
We won’t get 72 points. Even if by some miracle we do, then even that will not be sufficient. Save your optimism for next season.
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Post by march4 on Apr 3, 2023 8:18:28 GMT
We’ve scored 3 or more goals in 7 of the last 14 games.
I don’t remember us doing that before.
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Post by march4 on Apr 3, 2023 8:24:17 GMT
We’ve scored 3 or more goals in 7 of the last 14 games. I don’t remember us doing that before. Twice we scored 3 or more 7 times in 16 game runs in 1963/64 but that is as good as I remember from the past. We did get 9 against Ipswich that season so a similarly big score before this season finished would be brilliant. |
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Post by apb1 on Apr 3, 2023 8:26:24 GMT
We’ve scored 3 or more goals in 7 of the last 14 games. I don’t remember us doing that before. I think you're right although olden days there were more goalfests I guess. In recent years the purple patch in this season we got 3 goals in 6/12. And beat Grimsby 6-0 in the cup. That was a crazy time. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 8:26:34 GMT
When was the last time a team in this division won their last 8 games to sneak into the play-offs? In 2019 Villa got promoted via the play offs after winning 10 of their last 12 league matches. Coincidentally their run of 10 straight victories came straight after we'd drew 1-1 at our place with them, the Gordon Banks memorial match where Vokes gave us an early 5th minute lead with a tidy back heeled opener! Villa went on a run of 10x straight victories before finishing with a draw and a defeat before the play offs began. This spell of straight wins actually began after Grealish returned from injury & was bang on form for them, it was him that propelled them into the play off positions. Rare to happen, and may not have won all their remaining games but to win 10 of final 12 matches shows it is possible. Still think it's a step to far for us this season but as others have said, let's just enjoy the run in & hopefully we'll have a few more victories to celebrate and let's just see where that takes us. Perhaps this season will end with us just missing out like the season we just missed out last time around, before actually gaining automatic promotion the following season. Remember being totally deflated at Loftus Road after only drawing with QPR and all the other results going against us. That day was always going to be a tricky one for us to sneak into the play offs and so it proved. But the following year we'd improved as a team and bypassed thr play offs to clinch a top 2x spot. That's possibly a more realistic ambition to achieve if we recruit well and get a good start under our belts when the season commences. I wasn't expecting the answer to be so recent to be fair. That QPR game was an eventful one for me, I didn't get back home until Monday afternoon, ended up getting smashed in that Springfield pub think it's called? Right next to the ground until 11pm, rough as fuck in there it was 🤣 |
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Post by apb1 on Apr 3, 2023 8:27:24 GMT
We’ve scored 3 or more goals in 7 of the last 14 games. I don’t remember us doing that before. Twice we scored 3 or more 7 times in 16 game runs in 1963/64 but that is as good as I remember from the past. We did get 9 against Ipswich that season so a similarly big score before this season finished would be brilliant. We could have got 6 or 7 at Cov and it would have been a fair score. QPR maybe? They seem to have imploded. |
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Post by theonlooker on Apr 3, 2023 8:28:10 GMT
Realistic aim for top half/top ten and let's roar into the summer for a genuine tilt at it next year.
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Post by march4 on Apr 3, 2023 8:32:17 GMT
Twice we scored 3 or more 7 times in 16 game runs in 1963/64 but that is as good as I remember from the past. We did get 9 against Ipswich that season so a similarly big score before this season finished would be brilliant. We could have got 6 or 7 at Cov and it would have been a fair score. QPR maybe? They seem to have imploded. If everything goes our way, we could well put 9 past someone. We are still missing as many chances as we score. The expected goals for us must be climbing. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 3, 2023 8:33:55 GMT
There was a time when I thought about this game, for the opposite reason!!!
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 3, 2023 8:43:10 GMT
We won’t win all our remaining games. It really is that simple. Not unheard of though is it? It’s not. But our biggest win run this season is 2 games. I think since relegation it might stretch to 3. We ain’t winning 8 games on the bounce. I’ll gladly take any wager for any amount, I’m that confident. |
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Post by callas12 on Apr 3, 2023 8:54:02 GMT
In 2019 Villa got promoted via the play offs after winning 10 of their last 12 league matches. Coincidentally their run of 10 straight victories came straight after we'd drew 1-1 at our place with them, the Gordon Banks memorial match where Vokes gave us an early 5th minute lead with a tidy back heeled opener! Villa went on a run of 10x straight victories before finishing with a draw and a defeat before the play offs began. This spell of straight wins actually began after Grealish returned from injury & was bang on form for them, it was him that propelled them into the play off positions. Rare to happen, and may not have won all their remaining games but to win 10 of final 12 matches shows it is possible. Still think it's a step to far for us this season but as others have said, let's just enjoy the run in & hopefully we'll have a few more victories to celebrate and let's just see where that takes us. Perhaps this season will end with us just missing out like the season we just missed out last time around, before actually gaining automatic promotion the following season. Remember being totally deflated at Loftus Road after only drawing with QPR and all the other results going against us. That day was always going to be a tricky one for us to sneak into the play offs and so it proved. But the following year we'd improved as a team and bypassed thr play offs to clinch a top 2x spot. That's possibly a more realistic ambition to achieve if we recruit well and get a good start under our belts when the season commences. I wasn't expecting the answer to be so recent to be fair. That QPR game was an eventful one for me, I didn't get back home until Monday afternoon, ended up getting smashed in that Springfield pub think it's called? Right next to the ground until 11pm, rough as fuck in there it was 🤣 My bro's a Villa fan so I got to hear all about it at close quarters unfortunately 😉🙄. Dean Smith replaced Bruce & they didn't look back (a few teams can say that coincidentally enough! 🤣).. Villa were on the cusp of getting properly done over by FFP so they managed to escape the EFL to the Premier League at just the right time, they managed to escape untouched.. |
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Post by Roger Everyone on Apr 3, 2023 8:55:00 GMT
To reach the playoffs would be a massive achievement, but highly unlikely.
All we can do is cheer them on and hope for some massive luck with all the results.
Big shout out to the fans at the Coventry game, you were loud and proud!
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Post by shakermaker on Apr 3, 2023 9:01:14 GMT
Not unheard of though is it? It’s not. But our biggest win run this season is 2 games. I think since relegation it might stretch to 3. We ain’t winning 8 games on the bounce. I’ll gladly take any wager for any amount, I’m that confident. Even if we miraculously won all our games, we're relying on other teams slipping up as well. Let's just take things one step at a time before we start dreaming. First thing's first, we need to beat Bristol City on Friday and Norwich also need to beat Blackburn. |
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Post by apb1 on Apr 3, 2023 9:37:41 GMT
Oh what the hell - fancy a predictor? thefishy.co.uk/calculator0.php?competition=2. You can filter so only the results of 5th-13th matter if it helps fit the activity in your work teabreak  I got us level with Millwall assuming we won all our games. Blackburn a point ahead. Tried not to bend the laws of reality too much with other results than ours... EDIT - try only predicting our results as wins and then let the computer decide. Interesting outcome! |
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Post by march4 on Apr 3, 2023 9:46:15 GMT
Oh what the hell - fancy a predictor? thefishy.co.uk/calculator0.php?competition=2. You can filter so only the results of 5th-13th matter if it helps fit the activity in your work teabreak I got us level with Millwall assuming we won all our games. Blackburn a point ahead. Tried not to bend the laws of reality too much with other results than ours... EDIT - try only predicting our results as wins and then let the computer decide. Interesting outcome! That suggests to me we could lose a game and still make the playoffs so long as our GD remains strong and it isn’t West Brom who beat us. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2023 9:56:13 GMT
Now we are finding out why we were so pissed off to have scored zero out of 25 shots on goal v Blackpool and similar performances against teams in the lower half of the league.
We knew the spectacularly inept finishing of Delap and Gayle was going to cost us, one way or another.
At the end of the day, it's cost us a play off place , when for the first time in years , we are bang in form.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 3, 2023 10:21:33 GMT
A 1% chance still according to the data boffins.
Basically it isn’t happening.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Apr 3, 2023 10:33:18 GMT
2021/2022 - 6th place got 75 points
2020/2021 - 6th place got 77 points
2019/2020 - 6th place got 70 points
2018/2019 - 6th place got 74 points
2017/2018 - 6th place got 75 points
2016/2017 - 6th place got 80 points
2015/2016 - 6th place got 74 points
2014/2015 - 6th place got 78 points
2013/2014 - 6th place got 72 points
2012/2013 - 6th place got 68 points (5th got 72 points)
So, even if we managed to win every game, we'd only make the play-offs 30% of the time (and even that may be on GD) based on the last 10 seasons. In short, there is no chance. We'll drop points over the next two games anyway IMO (win Friday, draw Monday).
However, this strong finish to the season could just be the catalyst. Players will want to join if we finish off rampaging as we currently are.
I reckon we'll finish on around 66 points.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Apr 3, 2023 11:00:39 GMT
I'm sure I heard somewhere that since playoffs were introduced, the average points tally for 6th place was 72. If we win all our remaining games, we will get 72. This will also give us a very healthy +GD so almost as good as another point.
However this is highly unlikely as we know. Sometimes you get weird seasons where all the teams around the top 10 keep beating each other and so no gaps open up. We actually only got 78 points and finished 2nd when we went up in 2008 so sometimes lower points totals do scrape you into the playoffs.
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Post by lordb on Apr 3, 2023 11:02:41 GMT
It is. I blame lordb. Still I’ll go with in the modern relevant era it’s unheard of. yup my fault mixing up stats > Mike Sheron scored in 7 games on the trot, I've somehow (I'm old it happens....) got that mixed up with league wins on the bounce |
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Post by lordb on Apr 3, 2023 11:03:54 GMT
We’ve scored 3 or more goals in 7 of the last 14 games. I don’t remember us doing that before. did we do it under Mills 86-87? we scored a shedload in that run |
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Post by lordb on Apr 3, 2023 11:04:55 GMT
Now we are finding out why we were so pissed off to have scored zero out of 25 shots on goal v Blackpool and similar performances against teams in the lower half of the league. We knew the spectacularly inept finishing of Delap and Gayle was going to cost us, one way or another. At the end of the day, it's cost us a play off place , when for the first time in years , we are bang in form. not just those two to be fair |
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Post by lordb on Apr 3, 2023 11:07:00 GMT
What I will say is if we do actually win every game up to the Watford game & if a win can still get us into the play offs then I think once you factor our record at Watford in it it would be an absolute certainty |
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