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Post by salopstick on Mar 8, 2023 17:56:52 GMT
He can say what he wants away from the bbc umbrella
You don’t have to always agree with him but he’s still got that right
Just as we have the right to say he’s talking bollocks at times
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Post by somersetstokie on Mar 8, 2023 19:43:23 GMT
Correct. He wasn't working for the BBC or involving them at the time. He was merely a private citizen posting a tweet. I have no interest in his comments unless they are football related.
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Post by maxplonk on Mar 8, 2023 20:23:13 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 8, 2023 20:32:25 GMT
A complete lefty wokie bell end if ever there was one. Although he did get me banned from Twitter for which I’m eternally grateful😀
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2023 20:43:21 GMT
A complete lefty wokie bell end if ever there was one. Although he did get me banned from Twitter for which I’m eternally grateful😀 Spot on. The bloke is a daft twat.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2023 21:00:02 GMT
Ye he's a puddled cunt. Comparing a government pretending to want to do something about outrageous levels of illegal immigration with the nazis. What a fucking tool. It devalues any denouncement of actual nazis. It's shit like this that is so obviously retarded that actually causes more harm than good to his worldview IMO. But he's too tapped to understand that. Which I guess is a good thing because his worldview is aids.
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Post by maxplonk on Mar 8, 2023 21:02:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2023 21:02:47 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 8, 2023 21:09:08 GMT
If there going to sack the twat Can they hang on till Leicester get relegated just for the look on his smug face
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 8, 2023 21:16:33 GMT
He can say what he wants away from the bbc umbrella You don’t have to always agree with him but he’s still got that right Just as we have the right to say he’s talking bollocks at times Is he Oggy on here?
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Post by swampmongrel on Mar 8, 2023 21:30:33 GMT
A complete lefty wokie bell end if ever there was one. Although he did get me banned from Twitter for which I’m eternally grateful😀 Now if he could get you banned from here as well. We’d be all grateful 😉
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 8, 2023 21:33:49 GMT
A complete lefty wokie bell end if ever there was one. Although he did get me banned from Twitter for which I’m eternally grateful😀 Now if he could get you banned from here as well. We’d be all grateful 😉 Life wouldn’t be worth living for you lot mate😉
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Post by iglugluk on Mar 8, 2023 21:37:52 GMT
Good for him, he's gone up in my opinion ( admittedly he wasn't that high in the first place but anyway.. ) He's right this government have been pushing towards rightwing populism more and more.. particularly since the Brexit vote emboldened them. Watch out during difficult financial times as people tend to lurch towards political extremism in an attempt to blame someone whether it be hard-right or hard-left.. both are unbalanced and dangerous.
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Post by felonious on Mar 8, 2023 22:12:10 GMT
A complete lefty wokie bell end if ever there was one. Although he did get me banned from Twitter for which I’m eternally grateful😀 Now if he could get you banned from here as well. We’d be all grateful 😉 Who else would be left to post shit like
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 8, 2023 22:12:26 GMT
If he's in trouble for criticising the government it sort of proves his point.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 8, 2023 22:15:22 GMT
If he's in trouble for criticising the government it sort of proves his point. There’s criticising the government then there’s being a lefty woke virtue signallling prat. There is a difference 😉
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 8, 2023 22:15:59 GMT
Now if he could get you banned from here as well. We’d be all grateful 😉 Who else would be left to post shit like Bit harsh Fel, but fully warranted😉
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Post by felonious on Mar 8, 2023 22:16:39 GMT
Mmmm three star hotels or concentration camps Gary........
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Post by felonious on Mar 8, 2023 22:17:39 GMT
If he's in trouble for criticising the government it sort of proves his point. I believe it's the language used which at best is unhelpful.
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Post by gawa on Mar 8, 2023 22:49:52 GMT
Ye he's a puddled cunt. Comparing a government pretending to want to do something about outrageous levels of illegal immigration with the nazis. What a fucking tool. It devalues any denouncement of actual nazis. It's shit like this that is so obviously retarded that actually causes more harm than good to his worldview IMO. But he's too tapped to understand that. Which I guess is a good thing because his worldview is aids. Is this a WUM?
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 8, 2023 23:00:35 GMT
If he's in trouble for criticising the government it sort of proves his point. There’s criticising the government then there’s being a lefty woke virtue signallling prat. There is a difference 😉 But criticising the government however rationally still gets people those asinine buzzword fuelled labels
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Mar 8, 2023 23:06:09 GMT
A disgusting comparison by a disgusting individual.
Why should we be surprised anymore? The same guy who criticises a World cup in Qatar yet then goes and makes millions by presenting said World Cup in Qatar while continuing to criticise.
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Post by gawa on Mar 8, 2023 23:21:55 GMT
A disgusting comparison by a disgusting individual. Why should we be surprised anymore? The same guy who criticises a World cup in Qatar yet then goes and makes millions by presenting said World Cup in Qatar while continuing to criticise. Why's it disgusting. What differences do you see between the Nazi party before they got into power and the tories language and actions these past few days?
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Post by gawa on Mar 8, 2023 23:35:41 GMT
I don't quite remember such a fuss being made when Emily Maitlis, a news journalist for the BBC, compared the Labour Party to the extreme left communists on live TV while actively representing BBC.
At least we have an impartial board of directors governing the BBC. No donors, no former tory communications staff, no former deputy chairman's of tory parties. Completely... Impartial.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2023 23:40:50 GMT
A disgusting comparison by a disgusting individual. Why should we be surprised anymore? The same guy who criticises a World cup in Qatar yet then goes and makes millions by presenting said World Cup in Qatar while continuing to criticise. Why's it disgusting. What differences do you see between the Nazi party before they got into power and the tories language and actions these past few days? Come on dude. Surely you're being the WUM in this thread. The government are saying they don't want people arriving illegally via boats, and to prevent it they're going to refuse "asylum". Of course the government are bluffing. It won't happen for several reasons that I won't go into. But regardless, it's a perfectly reasonable theoretical stance for a government to wish to control the borders of their country. The analogy with the nazis, a political party that committed industrial scale genocide (against their own citizens even!), is fucking barmy. It's so ludicrous that it's hard to take anyone seriously who can't see the ridiculousness of the analogy. We may as well be speaking a different language.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 9, 2023 0:02:05 GMT
A disgusting comparison by a disgusting individual. Why should we be surprised anymore? The same guy who criticises a World cup in Qatar yet then goes and makes millions by presenting said World Cup in Qatar while continuing to criticise. I'd be worried if I were you - we elected Boris Johnson as Prime Minister three years after he called the EU a "Nazi superstate". So Lineker for PM in 2025 it is then.
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Post by gawa on Mar 9, 2023 0:12:39 GMT
Why's it disgusting. What differences do you see between the Nazi party before they got into power and the tories language and actions these past few days? Come on dude. Surely you're being the WUM in this thread. The government are saying they don't want people arriving illegally via boats, and to prevent it they're going to refuse "asylum". Of course the government are bluffing. It won't happen for several reasons that I won't go into. But regardless, it's a perfectly reasonable theoretical stance for a government to wish to control the borders of their country. The analogy with the nazis, a political party that committed industrial scale genocide against their own citizens, is fucking barmy. It's so ludicrous that it's hard to take anyone seriously who can't see the ridiculousness of the analogy. We may as well be speaking a different language. Of course the government are bluffing for several reasons which I won't go into. There you have it. So you've already admitted its propoganda. Anyway the main reason being that it breaks ECHR law, something which we are a part of. The nazi party in the early days drew up a list of policies long before they were in power. One of them being to abolish the Treaty of Versailles. Leaving the EU and then being the only European country besides Belarus and Russia not to be in the ECHR is not a good thing. Comparisons between leaving the EU, wanting to leave the ECHR, can be compared to the Nazi party wanting to abolish the treaty of Versailles. Going back to leaving the EU. This is similar to another principle the Nazis had called Autarky which was to be economically self sufficient. Another comparison is that they said Germany was under threat from Jews and communists. A bit like using language saying we are "being invaded by up to 100 million criminal illegal immigrants." Yes this is the type of language they use, similar again to the nazi party. "leftie lawyers, civil servants" - communists. "criminal illegal immigrants invading" - Jews. They also strongly believed that all immigration should be stopped and foreigners should have different laws. A bit like what the tory Party has literally just announced. There also felt the government should have control of all the newspapers. A bit like an employee for the BBC who does not work in news being criticised for making his own personal opinion. While at the same time the very board of directors governing this have multiple members with links to the Conservative party in multiple capacities. One being the general director who facilitated a loan for a Conservative prime minister before being appointed in the role. And then we go back to the "coronavirus" thread. Where there is a lot of discussion about scamdemic. About how the top 10 wealthiest people doubled their net worth during the Pandemic. We even look at the matt Hancock text messages where the tories are literally laughing at the public. And I could literally write another 10 paragraphs about all the other scandal but I won't bother you. The very fact is that yes everyone agrees sorting the boat problem would be great. But not everyone who reads these headlines in the sun will realise that the reason Labour oppose it is because it isn't feasible, it doesn't work, it wouldn't get past the courts. So there you said it they're bluffing. And this is the government in power for 13 years while NHS, social care, housing, economy, immigration and everything else has all went to shit. If it's a bluff then it's propoganda. I expect better from my government and maybe they haven't bluffed you or I, but 80% of the country don't follow politics as closely as you and I, and many will now think Labour want small boat crossings. When in reality they actually have proposals there ready which don't break the law, they just don't want to waste time on something which is never going to happen. And as for the comparisons to the nazi party. There very much are comparisons to the nazi parties propoganda before they got into power. They key word being before.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 9, 2023 6:54:22 GMT
Come on dude. Surely you're being the WUM in this thread. The government are saying they don't want people arriving illegally via boats, and to prevent it they're going to refuse "asylum". Of course the government are bluffing. It won't happen for several reasons that I won't go into. But regardless, it's a perfectly reasonable theoretical stance for a government to wish to control the borders of their country. The analogy with the nazis, a political party that committed industrial scale genocide against their own citizens, is fucking barmy. It's so ludicrous that it's hard to take anyone seriously who can't see the ridiculousness of the analogy. We may as well be speaking a different language. Of course the government are bluffing for several reasons which I won't go into. There you have it. So you've already admitted its propoganda. Anyway the main reason being that it breaks ECHR law, something which we are a part of. The nazi party in the early days drew up a list of policies long before they were in power. One of them being to abolish the Treaty of Versailles. Leaving the EU and then being the only European country besides Belarus and Russia not to be in the ECHR is not a good thing. Comparisons between leaving the EU, wanting to leave the ECHR, can be compared to the Nazi party wanting to abolish the treaty of Versailles. Going back to leaving the EU. This is similar to another principle the Nazis had called Autarky which was to be economically self sufficient. Another comparison is that they said Germany was under threat from Jews and communists. A bit like using language saying we are "being invaded by up to 100 million criminal illegal immigrants." Yes this is the type of language they use, similar again to the nazi party. "leftie lawyers, civil servants" - communists. "criminal illegal immigrants invading" - Jews. They also strongly believed that all immigration should be stopped and foreigners should have different laws. A bit like what the tory Party has literally just announced. There also felt the government should have control of all the newspapers. A bit like an employee for the BBC who does not work in news being criticised for making his own personal opinion. While at the same time the very board of directors governing this have multiple members with links to the Conservative party in multiple capacities. One being the general director who facilitated a loan for a Conservative prime minister before being appointed in the role. And then we go back to the "coronavirus" thread. Where there is a lot of discussion about scamdemic. About how the top 10 wealthiest people doubled their net worth during the Pandemic. We even look at the matt Hancock text messages where the tories are literally laughing at the public. And I could literally write another 10 paragraphs about all the other scandal but I won't bother you. The very fact is that yes everyone agrees sorting the boat problem would be great. But not everyone who reads these headlines in the sun will realise that the reason Labour oppose it is because it isn't feasible, it doesn't work, it wouldn't get past the courts. So there you said it they're bluffing. And this is the government in power for 13 years while NHS, social care, housing, economy, immigration and everything else has all went to shit. If it's a bluff then it's propoganda. I expect better from my government and maybe they haven't bluffed you or I, but 80% of the country don't follow politics as closely as you and I, and many will now think Labour want small boat crossings. When in reality they actually have proposals there ready which don't break the law, they just don't want to waste time on something which is never going to happen. And as for the comparisons to the nazi party. There very much are comparisons to the nazi parties propoganda before they got into power. They key word being before. There's no way the Tories will turn into the nazi party. They can't get the trains to run effectively, the roads are wank and they dress like a proper scruffy bunch of mongrels. Say what you like about the Nazis and their policies but they were generally competent enough to deliver them to an incredibly high standard. This shower, on either side, couldn't run a bath.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 9, 2023 7:21:31 GMT
He's a fucking hero.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 9, 2023 7:33:17 GMT
A disgusting comparison by a disgusting individual. Why should we be surprised anymore? The same guy who criticises a World cup in Qatar yet then goes and makes millions by presenting said World Cup in Qatar while continuing to criticise. The comparison is spot on. The language being used is what the Nazis did. Of course people don’t want to admit that but don’t get upset by these things when the Nazi playbook is being used and examples of it keep getting shown.
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