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Post by worcsstokie15 on Mar 4, 2023 17:02:28 GMT
A similar turning point for AN as it was for TP? Or too easy a comparison? I guess time will tell! Up the mighty Potters
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 4, 2023 17:09:04 GMT
A similar turning point for AN as it was for TP? Or too easy a comparison? I guess time will tell! Up the mighty Potters Can’t see how it can be a turning point moment we’ve quite unusually been scoring quite freely in a number of games recently. Maybe you’re just tuning in. We still make hard work of breaking down stubborn teams when we go behind or they’re very unambitious and would settle for a 0-0 from the off. We’re still a way off what we can be but scoring freely is a very good habit to get into. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 4, 2023 17:11:46 GMT
A similar turning point for AN as it was for TP? Or too easy a comparison? I guess time will tell! Up the mighty Potters Can’t see how it can be a turning point moment we’ve quite unusually been scoring quite freely in a number of games recently. Maybe you’re just tuning in. We still make hard work of breaking down stubborn teams when we go behind or they’re very unambitious and would settle for a 0-0 from the off. We’re still a way off what we can be but scoring freely is a very good habit to get into. I think in terms of impact of converting doubting supporters (& that's not a criticism of anyone) that we might be turning that corner today will probably have done more than the other recent wins |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2023 17:15:15 GMT
Hopefully!!
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 4, 2023 17:21:42 GMT
It's all about the home form really though. Convincing away performances are all very well but he's not going to get people renewing season tickets if we keep meekly surrendering by the odd goal at the Brit
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Post by lordb on Mar 4, 2023 17:22:49 GMT
It's all about the home form really though. Convincing away performances are all very well but he's not going to get people renewing season tickets if we keep meekly surrendering by the odd goal at the Brit Thats a good point but one thing at a time! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2023 17:30:16 GMT
It's all about the home form really though. Convincing away performances are all very well but he's not going to get people renewing season tickets if we keep meekly surrendering by the odd goal at the Brit Thats a good point but one thing at a time! And I’m not having it’s down to fear of the crowd or any shit like that either. It just simply isn’t. We can’t break teams down who don’t attack us. Changing that is what needs to happen. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 4, 2023 17:31:17 GMT
Thats a good point but one thing at a time! And I’m not having it’s down to fear of the crowd or any shit like that either. It just simply isn’t. We can’t break teams down who don’t attack us. Changing that is what needs to happen. Wingers and target man required for that |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 4, 2023 17:34:42 GMT
And I’m not having it’s down to fear of the crowd or any shit like that either. It just simply isn’t. We can’t break teams down who don’t attack us. Changing that is what needs to happen. Wingers and target man required for that A semblance of a plan is a start. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 4, 2023 17:36:01 GMT
Wingers and target man required for that A semblance of a plan is a start. Let's see what the squad looks like end of August Lots to do in the summer |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Mar 4, 2023 17:48:24 GMT
GET THE FUCK IN
finally a proper result and performance to celebrate and maybe a turning point for both teams.
I'm getting pissed
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 4, 2023 17:55:27 GMT
Not really, but largely in the sense that we've regularly been putting in three or four goals since mid-January.
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Post by march4 on Mar 4, 2023 17:57:22 GMT
A similar turning point for AN as it was for TP? Or too easy a comparison? I guess time will tell! Up the mighty Potters I think the corner was turned when the loanees started to leave but results like this cement the improvement we are making. A growing belief in the players and supporters is going to drive us forward. AN is simply a fantastic leader. My only worry is a Prem club come calling in a few months time. Otherwise we are going to have a really strong season next year. |
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Post by stokieinlondon on Mar 4, 2023 18:18:42 GMT
Campbell’s second was a lot like Fuller’s goal
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Post by kevkj on Mar 4, 2023 18:25:13 GMT
I'm one of the few who had confidence in the manager.
He said we need wingers to break down teams at home.
He has made us the perfect away side on the break.
Give the bloke time,he took on a very lop sided lazy squad.
Top away performance and roll on next season under Alex Neil.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 4, 2023 18:27:30 GMT
I hope so, but I doubt it. The thing with the Leeds 4-0 game was it was just after we'd signed a load of new players (a mixture of loan and permanent) who were going to become mainstays of our team going forward. Fuller, Delap, Hendrie, Diao and Griffin had all signed in recent weeks and all went on to become key players for us in that season (and some even further ahead into the Premier League). You could sense that a corner had been turned, the new players were a significant upgrade in quality over what we'd had previously and the nature of the performance made you feel that it wasn't going to be a flash in the pan.
This is a great performance and result that has kind of come out of nowhere. It might be a turning point, maybe Neil has finally said something that's made them click and maybe the confidence of scoring two proper goals might cause Gayle to click into gear and find the prolific form he had in the past. But on the balance of probabilities, with the fact that this has been achieved with the same group of players who have largely failed before then it's most likely that it's a flash in the pan one off like Preston away and normal service will be resumed next week.
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Post by st3mark on Mar 4, 2023 18:32:29 GMT
A similar turning point for AN as it was for TP? Or too easy a comparison? I guess time will tell! Up the mighty Potters I had that exact same thought. As others have stated though we need a plan for the home games. Our away form has been pretty decent in general not just today. We have just not won enough home matches. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 4, 2023 18:32:53 GMT
Not really, but largely in the sense that we've regularly been putting in three or four goals since mid-January. Must have gone unnoticed until this point. You’d think going a bloody age under MON where a convincing win came around about as often as your birthday folk might have noticed beforehand. Don’t know what to put it down to, the manager is hardly Kevin Keegan nor our play anything to write home about but something has changed. It’s like one good win brings a confidence and feel good factor, who’da thought it? Need to learn how to put stubborn defensive teams to bed next. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 4, 2023 18:41:06 GMT
I hope so, but I doubt it. The thing with the Leeds 4-0 game was it was just after we'd signed a load of new players (a mixture of loan and permanent) who were going to become mainstays of our team going forward. Fuller, Delap, Hendrie, Diao and Griffin had all signed in recent weeks and all went on to become key players for us in that season (and some even further ahead into the Premier League). You could sense that a corner had been turned, the new players were a significant upgrade in quality over what we'd had previously and the nature of the performance made you feel that it wasn't going to be a flash in the pan. This is a great performance and result that has kind of come out of nowhere. It might be a turning point, maybe Neil has finally said something that's made them click and maybe the confidence of scoring two proper goals might cause Gayle to click into gear and find the prolific form he had in the past. But on the balance of probabilities, with the fact that this has been achieved with the same group of players who have largely failed before then it's most likely that it's a flash in the pan one off like Preston away and normal service will be resumed next week. 02223413000303005 Goals scored in all games from beginning of December. How many times did we score 3 or more in the previous two whole seasons? |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 4, 2023 20:24:45 GMT
I hope so, but I doubt it. The thing with the Leeds 4-0 game was it was just after we'd signed a load of new players (a mixture of loan and permanent) who were going to become mainstays of our team going forward. Fuller, Delap, Hendrie, Diao and Griffin had all signed in recent weeks and all went on to become key players for us in that season (and some even further ahead into the Premier League). You could sense that a corner had been turned, the new players were a significant upgrade in quality over what we'd had previously and the nature of the performance made you feel that it wasn't going to be a flash in the pan. This is a great performance and result that has kind of come out of nowhere. It might be a turning point, maybe Neil has finally said something that's made them click and maybe the confidence of scoring two proper goals might cause Gayle to click into gear and find the prolific form he had in the past. But on the balance of probabilities, with the fact that this has been achieved with the same group of players who have largely failed before then it's most likely that it's a flash in the pan one off like Preston away and normal service will be resumed next week. 02223413000303005 Goals scored in all games from beginning of December. How many times did we score 3 or more in the previous two whole seasons? The problem is the number of zeros. We need to get more consistent at scoring in every game rather than having the odd big win followed by a couple of narrow defeats. |
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Post by Ron on Mar 4, 2023 20:27:58 GMT
There’s some similarities- let’s hope this win sees the confidence flow from now to the end of the season. Priority is to get clear of trouble and try to address the home form , maybe put a couple of results together rather than this stuttering we can’t get out of
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 4, 2023 22:01:36 GMT
02223413000303005 Goals scored in all games from beginning of December. How many times did we score 3 or more in the previous two whole seasons? The problem is the number of zeros. We need to get more consistent at scoring in every game rather than having the odd big win followed by a couple of narrow defeats. Our results have been consistent no good runs of form but hardly ever winning convincingly. Now we seem to be winning convincingly on a fairly regular basis, that’s progress. Maybe you just thought we’d suddenly start winning every week. |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 4, 2023 22:04:05 GMT
The problem is the number of zeros. We need to get more consistent at scoring in every game rather than having the odd big win followed by a couple of narrow defeats. I'm prepared to see the positives and I hope you're right. Let's hope we can finish the season strongly and go into the summer with some momentum and optimism. FFP relaxing and the Souttar money could make a big difference if we use it wisely. Our results have been consistent no good runs of form but hardly ever winning convincingly. Now we seem to be winning convincingly on a fairly regular basis, that’s progress. Maybe you just thought we’d suddenly start winning every week. |
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Post by marwood on Mar 4, 2023 22:09:06 GMT
Major turning point could be we’ve finally started to take to him as a manager
I don’t think you’ll hear any bad words about him for a while from today’s away support
Seeing our top man get pelted with stuff and not even give it the time of day was inspiring
If he’s got the away support on side he’s got credit in the bank
I was at Swansea and that performance saw him go up in my eyes - today will do the same
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Post by lordb on Mar 4, 2023 22:23:35 GMT
The problem is the number of zeros. We need to get more consistent at scoring in every game rather than having the odd big win followed by a couple of narrow defeats. Our results have been consistent no good runs of form but hardly ever winning convincingly. Now we seem to be winning convincingly on a fairly regular basis, that’s progress. Maybe you just thought we’d suddenly start winning every week. I thought, when AN was appointed, we would have less games where we don't score than has actually occurred |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 5, 2023 7:37:16 GMT
It was always going to take a transfer window to at least start to make an impression given how Neil plays and the blancmange of a squad he inherited.
Not to say everything’s hunky dory and there’s still a lot of rebuilding to do but it feels like with some energy at full back and a proper DM we’re starting to move in the right direction.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 5, 2023 7:51:16 GMT
I'm one of the few who had confidence in the manager. He said we need wingers to break down teams at home. He has made us the perfect away side on the break. Give the bloke time,he took on a very lop sided lazy squad. Top away performance and roll on next season under Alex Neil. Thought you’d written a poem then realised nothing rhymes.  |
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Post by professorplump on Mar 5, 2023 7:51:47 GMT
A few years ago when we beat Forest 4-1, I hoped that was going to be our turning point but it proved to be a false dawn. The only thing that concerns me is that some of our influential players are loans. If we could sign Pearson, Smallbone and perhaps Sarkic on permanent deals then I would feel a lot more optimistic. I think this summer is going to be massive for us.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Mar 5, 2023 8:50:59 GMT
It was always going to take a transfer window to at least start to make an impression given how Neil plays and the blancmange of a squad he inherited. Not to say everything’s hunky dory and there’s still a lot of rebuilding to do but it feels like with some energy at full back and a proper DM we’re starting to move in the right direction. Our potency in some games has got to be encouraging even if personally I couldn’t even start to explain it. Obviously it needs to be developed and adapted to games against unambitious stubborn teams that do little other than defend for their lives and hope something drops for them as it has all too often in our home games. It would leave us with a lot less to do in the Summer if we could make some of the loans into perms, Pearson and Sterling would be a very good start. Just hope finally we make it a priority to sign a lead the line striker in the next window. |
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