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Post by loosestools on Mar 3, 2023 21:14:19 GMT
Man City 2-0 In saying that if the ref hadn’t inexplicably given offside when we went 4-0 up against Arsenal I think that would have beaten it, I honestly think we’d have gone on to to win it 6-0 and ended up scraping home 3-2 instead…… Yeah definitely should have included that in mine to be fair. That was a bullshit decision which I genuinely felt the ref give as he felt sorry for them as we were pummeling them. As you say it could have been six if not for that decision. I rang my sister at half time and said "fuck me me - we are taking the piss out of them" What a day that was.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Mar 3, 2023 21:20:49 GMT
Probably the first 3v2 win over Villa
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Mar 3, 2023 21:27:47 GMT
Villa away 1-4
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 3, 2023 21:30:07 GMT
The 3-2 vs Aston Villa was great after everyone had written us off. No Shawcross in the side either (who was key in most of our best performances), and before Etherington and Beattie joined of course.
The 3-0 up against Arsenal was incredible.
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Post by generationex on Mar 3, 2023 21:46:55 GMT
3-2 Villa. Showed we could survive.
Plus the amazing Fuller goal and Mama’s flick on.
The template for building the club from 23 years of failure.
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Post by banksy1art on Mar 3, 2023 21:52:30 GMT
I don't know why I opened this thread. Just full of anger and frustration that my lad, who is really getting into his football now, has to watch the charlatans and chancers we have turning out for us now than what I was fortunate enough to watch back then. He still enjoys it of course but was telling me the other night how much he thought of Mitoma, Dunk and Caicedo for Brighton. Didn't have the heart to tell him they couldn't hold a candle to peak Shawcross, Huth, NZonzi, Arnautovic or Bojan and that the side we had back then would have wiped the floor with them. Sorry to say this again and drag it into another thread but could swing for that lot upstairs... we’ll be back.
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Post by theonlooker on Mar 3, 2023 21:55:34 GMT
I don't know why I opened this thread. Just full of anger and frustration that my lad, who is really getting into his football now, has to watch the charlatans and chancers we have turning out for us now than what I was fortunate enough to watch back then. He still enjoys it of course but was telling me the other night how much he thought of Mitoma, Dunk and Caicedo for Brighton. Didn't have the heart to tell him they couldn't hold a candle to peak Shawcross, Huth, NZonzi, Arnautovic or Bojan and that the side we had back then would have wiped the floor with them. Sorry to say this again and drag it into another thread but could swing for that lot upstairs... we’ll be back. I really hope so mate.
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Post by pavel on Mar 3, 2023 22:16:55 GMT
Reading this thread is truly depressing reminding us how far we have fallen. But it is pertinent and should be mandatory reading for the Stoke board on how NOT to run a football club, become sustainable and an object lesson on how to take a club back to the Stone Age.
Oh Stoke 2, Man City 0 in the premiership and Stoke 3, Leeds 2 in the Waddington years.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Mar 3, 2023 22:17:04 GMT
I don't know why I opened this thread. Just full of anger and frustration that my lad, who is really getting into his football now, has to watch the charlatans and chancers we have turning out for us now than what I was fortunate enough to watch back then. He still enjoys it of course but was telling me the other night how much he thought of Mitoma, Dunk and Caicedo for Brighton. Didn't have the heart to tell him they couldn't hold a candle to peak Shawcross, Huth, NZonzi, Arnautovic or Bojan and that the side we had back then would have wiped the floor with them. Sorry to say this again and drag it into another thread but could swing for that lot upstairs... It’s certainly depressing. My now wife I met 5 years ago. I’ve got her into football but she’s just seen the worst of us, and she still likes it! If only she’d have seen us 5 years before.
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Post by stokefanone on Mar 3, 2023 22:28:11 GMT
I have to say, whatever some think of Mark Hughes he gave us a couple of seasons of top class football. Like in the mid 70’s the only thing we lacked was a 20 goal striker to win us something. I know it went sour, but I wouldn’t blame Hughes for the clubs demise.
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Post by generationex on Mar 3, 2023 23:13:45 GMT
That 120 million pound burden not an issue then?
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Post by BlurtonRed on Mar 4, 2023 8:07:17 GMT
Spurs at home 3.0 Nzonzi was class Nzonzi was such a classy player,pure class. With 3 strides he turned defence into attack. If only we could of kept him and Arnie.
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Post by Ron on Mar 4, 2023 8:11:10 GMT
What was out best ever performance in the Premier League? I’m guessing from an attacking point of view it has to be something from the Hughes era but which match? Man City 2-0 hands down. The most complete and controlled performance I've ever seen from a Stoke team, by quite a distance - and against newly-minted, recent champions and indeed league leaders. It was approaching perfection. that month or so was, hands down, the best I’ve ever seen. The performances against City United and Everton away were worthy or a top 4 finish. We all know what happened after that semi defeat at anfield. I think that not seeming all that long ago is what makes our current plight unfatomable.
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Post by innocentbystander on Mar 4, 2023 9:47:17 GMT
Definitely the 2 - 0 Man City.
Most memorable was the 3 - 2 v Chelsea, just before Christmas, when Assaidi scored that stunner in the dying minutes. Pure Prem era Stoke, the crowd helped suck that amazing shot into the net.
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Post by hardcastle on Mar 4, 2023 10:07:10 GMT
Spurs at home 3.0 Nzonzi was class Truly awesome performance absolutely brilliant You're right about Nzonzi. Fabulous that day. A couple of weeks prior to the 6-1 vs Liverpool when he wasn't too shabby either.
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Post by stantheman on Mar 4, 2023 10:16:42 GMT
Everton away, 28 Dec 2015. 3-2 down with ten mins left and win with a 91st min penalty. My favourite Stoke game in the Prem. Yes, 6-1 Liverpool, 3-2 Villa and many more, but for a game that swung so much, this for me. Lukaku v Shawcross, both at their best, was a fantastic battle. Not realising for several seconds that Shaq had scored.
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Post by lordb on Mar 4, 2023 10:29:38 GMT
I have to say, whatever some think of Mark Hughes he gave us a couple of seasons of top class football. Like in the mid 70’s the only thing we lacked was a 20 goal striker to win us something. I know it went sour, but I wouldn’t blame Hughes for the clubs demise. Agree with a lot here but Hughes decision to go with wing backs despite not having any was pure madness Berahino and Imbula disasters are on him too So frustrating
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 4, 2023 10:45:50 GMT
What was out best ever performance in the Premier League? I’m guessing from an attacking point of view it has to be something from the Hughes era but which match? Man City 2-0 hands down. The most complete and controlled performance I've ever seen from a Stoke team, by quite a distance - and against newly-minted, recent champions and indeed league leaders. It was approaching perfection. No other option. We could have been 6-0 at half time and they couldn’t have been disappointed if we were.
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 4, 2023 10:50:13 GMT
Man City 2-0 hands down. The most complete and controlled performance I've ever seen from a Stoke team, by quite a distance - and against newly-minted, recent champions and indeed league leaders. It was approaching perfection. that month or so was, hands down, the best I’ve ever seen. The performances against City United and Everton away were worthy or a top 4 finish. We all know what happened after that semi defeat at anfield. I think that not seeming all that long ago is what makes our current plight unfatomable. The semi final at anfield was a real sliding doors moment for us as a club I feel. After that Hughes started shutting himself, had we won that I can’t help but feel we’d have kicked on again.
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Post by st3mark on Mar 4, 2023 11:15:49 GMT
Best home performance was the 2-0 against man City. We were much better than a top, top side. We didn't beat them because they were a shambles like when we destroyed Liverpool. We just had the ability to beat a good side with our quality.
That said, the 1-0 with 10 men against city lives more passionately in my memory because we beat them with 10 men and as a community. The whole fan base united together in a fight against the big spenders. The best atmosphere I've ever experienced. I doubt it could ever be beaten. I often wonder what that must have been like as an away fan seeing us creating that noise. Beautiful.
Best away performance for me would be the 4-3 win against Everton. Even though they scored three we had enough quality to outscore them. Really entertaining match.
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Post by Scrotnig on Mar 4, 2023 16:18:54 GMT
This thread has made me very sad.
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Post by borat on Mar 5, 2023 4:47:31 GMT
Clearly 6-1 Liverpool, 5-0 at half time which included Gerrard why has nobody said that, great win.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Mar 5, 2023 7:22:10 GMT
Boxing night at home against Liverpool was one of the best in the Pulis era.
0-1 down in the first minute then team & support took it to another level. Both at their intimidating best.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 5, 2023 9:11:42 GMT
Best home performance was the 2-0 against man City. We were much better than a top, top side. We didn't beat them because they were a shambles like when we destroyed Liverpool. We just had the ability to beat a good side with our quality. That said, the 1-0 with 10 men against city lives more passionately in my memory because we beat them with 10 men and as a community. The whole fan base united together in a fight against the big spenders. The best atmosphere I've ever experienced. I doubt it could ever be beaten. I often wonder what that must have been like as an away fan seeing us creating that noise. Beautiful. Best away performance for me would be the 4-3 win against Everton. Even though they scored three we had enough quality to outscore them. Really entertaining match. That 2-0 against Man City was definitely the best performance in terms of sheer quality. Like you say, we out footballed a genuinely top side and didn't just out battle them or take advantage of an off day. The problem was that performance was actually a little too good and drew attention to what we were doing. Up until that point teams generally didn't put too much effort into stopping us, particularly the top half teams. We were regarded as a physical, hard working team that had enough quality to cause you problems if you don't deliver on your game plan or you allow yourself to be bullied or outworked by us. But generally if you execute your game plan well then you should have enough quality to beat them. But the performance against Man City shattered that illusion because we beat them with quality, not just with hard graft. We'd have beaten anyone in the league and most teams in Europe that day. So suddenly the top clubs were watching what we were doing and devising plans to counteract out false 9 system. Those plans came into place after New Year and we suddenly started struggling a bit. Hughes wasn't able to find an effective plan B to counter what our opponents were doing to us, our attempts to improve the squad and diversify our approach with expensive signings like Imbula and Berahino failed and our death spiral down to where we've ended up had started.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 5, 2023 9:49:55 GMT
Best home performance was the 2-0 against man City. We were much better than a top, top side. We didn't beat them because they were a shambles like when we destroyed Liverpool. We just had the ability to beat a good side with our quality. That said, the 1-0 with 10 men against city lives more passionately in my memory because we beat them with 10 men and as a community. The whole fan base united together in a fight against the big spenders. The best atmosphere I've ever experienced. I doubt it could ever be beaten. I often wonder what that must have been like as an away fan seeing us creating that noise. Beautiful. Best away performance for me would be the 4-3 win against Everton. Even though they scored three we had enough quality to outscore them. Really entertaining match. That 2-0 against Man City was definitely the best performance in terms of sheer quality. Like you say, we out footballed a genuinely top side and didn't just out battle them or take advantage of an off day. The problem was that performance was actually a little too good and drew attention to what we were doing. Up until that point teams generally didn't put too much effort into stopping us, particularly the top half teams. We were regarded as a physical, hard working team that had enough quality to cause you problems if you don't deliver on your game plan or you allow yourself to be bullied or outworked by us. But generally if you execute your game plan well then you should have enough quality to beat them. But the performance against Man City shattered that illusion because we beat them with quality, not just with hard graft. We'd have beaten anyone in the league and most teams in Europe that day. So suddenly the top clubs were watching what we were doing and devising plans to counteract out false 9 system. Those plans came into place after New Year and we suddenly started struggling a bit. Hughes wasn't able to find an effective plan B to counter what our opponents were doing to us, our attempts to improve the squad and diversify our approach with expensive signings like Imbula and Berahino failed and our death spiral down to where we've ended up had started. Is there an argument he abandoned the false 9 a bit too quickly? I think Hughes convinced himself that he needed a definitive replacement for Nzonzi and that Imbula was it, and that helped kill off the false 9 before it could be definitively said to have stopped working.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Mar 5, 2023 12:25:34 GMT
That 2-0 against Man City was definitely the best performance in terms of sheer quality. Like you say, we out footballed a genuinely top side and didn't just out battle them or take advantage of an off day. The problem was that performance was actually a little too good and drew attention to what we were doing. Up until that point teams generally didn't put too much effort into stopping us, particularly the top half teams. We were regarded as a physical, hard working team that had enough quality to cause you problems if you don't deliver on your game plan or you allow yourself to be bullied or outworked by us. But generally if you execute your game plan well then you should have enough quality to beat them. But the performance against Man City shattered that illusion because we beat them with quality, not just with hard graft. We'd have beaten anyone in the league and most teams in Europe that day. So suddenly the top clubs were watching what we were doing and devising plans to counteract out false 9 system. Those plans came into place after New Year and we suddenly started struggling a bit. Hughes wasn't able to find an effective plan B to counter what our opponents were doing to us, our attempts to improve the squad and diversify our approach with expensive signings like Imbula and Berahino failed and our death spiral down to where we've ended up had started. Is there an argument he abandoned the false 9 a bit too quickly? I think Hughes convinced himself that he needed a definitive replacement for Nzonzi and that Imbula was it, and that helped kill off the false 9 before it could be definitively said to have stopped working. Possibly. But what's unquestionably true is that pretty much every tactical and recruitment decision from that point onwards was wrong and it all contributed to our eventual downfall. Such a shame because for that brief period we were a joy to watch.
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