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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Feb 28, 2023 18:30:05 GMT
Raised plinth, centre of the boothen, illuminated appropriately.
Bit like the Ferguson statue at old Trafford.
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Post by mastermind on Feb 28, 2023 18:32:07 GMT
The subject has been broached before but not got through to the current stage,and so we may be moving in the right direction this time. As the man with the camera and author of the current plea I can but speak as I find and am encouraged by the response from the club and Supporters Council. It is fact that the family purchased Johns memorial and so an initial approach to them is good manners to communicate with them first,we hope they will share our desire to do well for his memory and service and not perceive us as interfering in there privacy. I have recieved hundreds of messages of support for the repositioning and truly hope it will go ahead.
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Post by smallthorner on Feb 28, 2023 21:40:01 GMT
A mural with the 1972 team would be nice.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 28, 2023 23:50:48 GMT
People (quite rightly) have been complaining about this insulting placement since it was put there. Too low, next to a bin and not properly lit. Should have been obvious to anyone with a brain. You’ve nailed it. That’s the management of Stoke City Football Club explained in your last sentence, 2nd rate
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Post by march4 on Feb 28, 2023 23:57:05 GMT
People (quite rightly) have been complaining about this insulting placement since it was put there. Too low, next to a bin and not properly lit. Should have been obvious to anyone with a brain. You’ve nailed it. That’s the management of Stoke City Football Club explained in your last sentence, 2nd rate But the choice of John’s family. Hopefully they will agree for it to be moved. I also think Gordon’s statue should be relocated onto the middle of the roundabout which is adjacent to its current position. The centre of the roundabout is already elevated and would be ideal to make a feature of one of our country’s greatest ever players. Some creative landscaping and lighting would really do justice to the great man.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 1, 2023 7:19:56 GMT
You’ve nailed it. That’s the management of Stoke City Football Club explained in your last sentence, 2nd rate But the choice of John’s family. Hopefully they will agree for it to be moved. I also think Gordon’s statue should be relocated onto the middle of the roundabout which is adjacent to its current position. The centre of the roundabout is already elevated and would be ideal to make a feature of one of our country’s greatest ever players. Some creative landscaping and lighting would really do justice to the great man. Did you read Banksy’s daughters post on here about the politics around the statue and how the club didn’t want it on club land?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2023 8:45:17 GMT
But the choice of John’s family. Hopefully they will agree for it to be moved. I also think Gordon’s statue should be relocated onto the middle of the roundabout which is adjacent to its current position. The centre of the roundabout is already elevated and would be ideal to make a feature of one of our country’s greatest ever players. Some creative landscaping and lighting would really do justice to the great man. Did you read Banksy’s daughters post on here about the politics around the statue and how the club didn’t want it on club land? Why would the club not want a statue of their most famous son on their land?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 1, 2023 8:48:32 GMT
Did you read Banksy’s daughters post on here about the politics around the statue and how the club didn’t want it on club land? Why would the club not want a statue of their most famous son on their land? No idea. Crazy isn’t it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2023 8:51:04 GMT
Why would the club not want a statue of their most famous son on their land? No idea. Crazy isn’t it. If true yes, one of the stupidest things I've heard. I'm not into bashing the club constantly, but that is an absolute disgrace if true.
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Post by wherty on Mar 12, 2023 12:25:16 GMT
You’ve nailed it. That’s the management of Stoke City Football Club explained in your last sentence, 2nd rate But the choice of John’s family. Hopefully they will agree for it to be moved. I also think Gordon’s statue should be relocated onto the middle of the roundabout which is adjacent to its current position. The centre of the roundabout is already elevated and would be ideal to make a feature of one of our country’s greatest ever players. Some creative landscaping and lighting would really do justice to the great man. But not a very safe location when people come to view it or lay flowers etc.
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 12, 2023 12:29:38 GMT
Why would the club not want a statue of their most famous son on their land? No idea. Crazy isn’t it. Playing the devil's advocate and I don't know what the discussion with the Banks family was but perhaps they wanted it somewhere that could be accessed even when the ground was shut. Would be understandable as he is a world famous player whose statue many people from outside the immediate area and others besides Stoke fans would want to visit. For security and insurance purposes Stoke may have said they couldn't allow that on their ground?
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Post by march4 on Mar 12, 2023 12:34:09 GMT
But the choice of John’s family. Hopefully they will agree for it to be moved. I also think Gordon’s statue should be relocated onto the middle of the roundabout which is adjacent to its current position. The centre of the roundabout is already elevated and would be ideal to make a feature of one of our country’s greatest ever players. Some creative landscaping and lighting would really do justice to the great man. But not a very safe location when people come to view it or lay flowers etc. True, but that is a rare occurrence and the vast majority see it when driving past.
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Post by banksy1art on Mar 12, 2023 13:22:13 GMT
You’ve nailed it. That’s the management of Stoke City Football Club explained in your last sentence, 2nd rate But the choice of John’s family. Hopefully they will agree for it to be moved. I also think Gordon’s statue should be relocated onto the middle of the roundabout which is adjacent to its current position. The centre of the roundabout is already elevated and would be ideal to make a feature of one of our country’s greatest ever players. Some creative landscaping and lighting would really do justice to the great man. not a bad idea but I think it would work better for sir stans statue as it is bigger and the roundabouts are on Sir Stanley Matthews way . Having it lit up on the roundabout just behind the south stand would be ace
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 12, 2023 13:43:25 GMT
Playing the devil's advocate and I don't know what the discussion with the Banks family was but perhaps they wanted it somewhere that could be accessed even when the ground was shut. Would be understandable as he is a world famous player whose statue many people from outside the immediate area and others besides Stoke fans would want to visit. For security and insurance purposes Stoke may have said they couldn't allow that on their ground? Have a read yourself. It just seems the club flat out didn’t want it. oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/307156/why-ground-prison
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Post by nottsover60 on Mar 12, 2023 14:01:22 GMT
Playing the devil's advocate and I don't know what the discussion with the Banks family was but perhaps they wanted it somewhere that could be accessed even when the ground was shut. Would be understandable as he is a world famous player whose statue many people from outside the immediate area and others besides Stoke fans would want to visit. For security and insurance purposes Stoke may have said they couldn't allow that on their ground? Have a read yourself. It just seems the club flat out didn’t want it. oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/307156/why-ground-prisonMissed that. What a wonderful move by Stoke on Trent Council. Arriving at a match I always feel proud when I see away fans as well as home fans around it taking photos; it is in such an open position. It's the Matthews one I feel sorry for. Such a brilliant piece of sculpture stuck away in an uncared for corner of a car park. That's why I think at least a garden of remembrance around it would be a good idea. And you have to really hunt for the Ritchie one. I think Banks definitely won the best positioned statue and can be visited at any time of day. How nice that Wendy can and does pay such respect to her father. EDIT: Whoever is responsible for the cutting back of the shrubs concealing the Matthews statue from the road should be ashamed. At least you used to be able to see it as you drove past. I do think the club should take responsibility even though as I suspect the shrubs/trees are on council ground.
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Post by newsteadst3 on Mar 12, 2023 14:29:33 GMT
Is the Matthews one in Hanley looked after ?
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 12, 2023 15:56:44 GMT
The club's general approach and attitude towards it's own history is pretty rubbish to be honest. The clubs 150th anniversary was embarrassing and that’s being diplomatic.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 12, 2023 16:33:16 GMT
You’ve nailed it. That’s the management of Stoke City Football Club explained in your last sentence, 2nd rate But the choice of John’s family. Hopefully they will agree for it to be moved. I also think Gordon’s statue should be relocated onto the middle of the roundabout which is adjacent to its current position. The centre of the roundabout is already elevated and would be ideal to make a feature of one of our country’s greatest ever players. Some creative landscaping and lighting would really do justice to the great man. The current placement was absolutely not the choice of John’s family.
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Post by lordb on Mar 12, 2023 22:58:19 GMT
Did you read Banksy’s daughters post on here about the politics around the statue and how the club didn’t want it on club land? Why would the club not want a statue of their most famous son on their land? Because PC is a bit weird when it comes to this sort of thing
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Post by march4 on Mar 12, 2023 23:01:37 GMT
But the choice of John’s family. Hopefully they will agree for it to be moved. I also think Gordon’s statue should be relocated onto the middle of the roundabout which is adjacent to its current position. The centre of the roundabout is already elevated and would be ideal to make a feature of one of our country’s greatest ever players. Some creative landscaping and lighting would really do justice to the great man. The current placement was absolutely not the choice of John’s family. Weren’t we told it was? I’m relieved to hear they want it moving. It is far from an ideal place.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 13, 2023 8:58:06 GMT
The current placement was absolutely not the choice of John’s family. Weren’t we told it was? I’m relieved to hear they want it moving. It is far from an ideal place. The relationship between johns family and the club isn’t a good one due to a whole raft of things around the placement of the bust.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 13, 2023 9:35:29 GMT
If the club are not that bothered about J Ritchie's bust, what not put in the housing estate where the Vic ground used to be?
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Post by mastermind on Mar 14, 2023 18:35:42 GMT
The bust has been there for over 15 years and only now people complain. Why were there no complaints at the time.... asking for a friend. There have been many attempts over the past 15 years to promote a move but until the recent post of mine nothing has happened,it seems we have a sympathetic approach this time thankfully and the club have been understanding and helpful,confirming this week that it will happen. If at first you don’t succeed try try again.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 14, 2023 18:55:16 GMT
But not a very safe location when people come to view it or lay flowers etc. True, but that is a rare occurrence and the vast majority see it when driving past. Imagine matchday when traffic is high and fans wanting to see the statue close up for photos etc... bonkers idea, health and safety nightmare.
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Post by march4 on Mar 14, 2023 19:30:06 GMT
True, but that is a rare occurrence and the vast majority see it when driving past. Imagine matchday when traffic is high and fans wanting to see the statue close up for photos etc... bonkers idea, health and safety nightmare. It’s not in a good place now, mate. Looks like an afterthought.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 15, 2023 12:20:19 GMT
Imagine matchday when traffic is high and fans wanting to see the statue close up for photos etc... bonkers idea, health and safety nightmare. It’s not in a good place now, mate. Looks like an afterthought. I agree.
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