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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2023 18:43:22 GMT
No not re the lack of quality in the final third, I'm ashamed and angry at a sizeable section of our fans who found it acceptable to scream abuse at the players at the end No problem with having an opinion re players not playing well or whatever or even booing (didn't think that was warranted mind) but to dish out the full on abuse to a side that has dominated and worked their socks off was disgusting. Josh Laurent in particular was getting both barrels which was ludicrous If I was a player I'd want to leave The players deserve all they get. Sorry. If they want to hand back their contracts and fuck off, all of them, I'm fine. I can't believe the supporters haven't shown more anger in the ground Sadly I agree with you some of our players are really cowardly and that really grinds my gears Players finish in different ways , but a standard finish in the box ...is one touch and bang ...you take the ball away from the defender with your first touch and then hit it . Watch the highlights , this is true , when the ball comes to dwight gayle just wide off the penalty spot , instead of taking it away from the defender with his first touch and hitting it ( the standard reflex for a striker with a bit of time and space ) , he takes the ball towards the defender ! ( he's doing the defenders job and closing himself down ! mental !) then passes it to stoke player with less time on the ball than he had , to hurry a shot ) . Gayle was wide of everyone , including their last defender , all he had to do was take the ball away from the defender with his first touch it and hit it , and there was nobody wide of him to stop him doing that . But his only thought was to pass the buck to someone else . Shameful . Deserves more booing than he got !
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 18, 2023 18:43:57 GMT
There is a massive difference between not accepting a poor performance and so voicing your displeasure and screaming vitriolic personal abuse at individual players. It's not acceptable in any walk of life. Even you know that. I shout vitriolic abuse at most of them most games tbh. Says it all.
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Post by lordb on Feb 18, 2023 18:45:15 GMT
The players deserve all they get. Sorry. If they want to hand back their contracts and fuck off, all of them, I'm fine. I can't believe the supporters haven't shown more anger in the ground Sadly I agree with you some of our players are really cowardly and that really grinds my gears Players finish in different ways , but a standard finish in the box ...is one touch and bang ...you take the ball away from the defender with your first touch and then hit it . Watch the highlights , this is true , when the ball comes to dwight gayle just wide off the penalty spot , instead of taking it away from the defender with his first touch and hitting it ( the standard reflex for a striker with a bit of time and space ) , he takes the ball towards the defender ! ( he's doing the defenders job and closing himself down ! mental !) then passes it to stoke player with less time on the ball than he had , to hurry a shot ) . Gayle was wide of everyone , including their last defender , all he had to do was take the ball away from the defender with his first touch it and hit it , and there was nobody wide of him to stop him doing that . But his only thought was to pass the buck to someone else . Shameful . Deserves more booing than he got ! None of that warrants the abuse Booing and abuse are two different things If people are genuinely saying abuse is acceptable for not playing well then that's embarrassing
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 18, 2023 18:46:05 GMT
Infuriated is fine, the levels of abuse was not. I think the Stoke side that lost 7 at home to Birmingham got less If it had just been booing, moans and groans wouldn't have posted Wasn't there chaos that day against Birmingham... Against the board. Most of the players had found out they were transfer listed that week by reading the local paper
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Post by lordb on Feb 18, 2023 18:46:15 GMT
Like i said, come back in 12 months from now and let's have a discussion Did you say this 12 months ago and before that? Why are you so happy to plod along with this shit? Completely missing the point of the thread
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2023 18:49:47 GMT
I shout vitriolic abuse at most of them most games tbh. Says it all. It does, they’re terrible.
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Post by milky on Feb 18, 2023 18:50:45 GMT
Abuse of players is never acceptable and will be counter productive anyway.
We all shout things in the heat of the moment but at the end of the game ,I can't see what it's going to achieve.
I don't think there's a lack of effort with this group ,they just aren't very good at what they are meant to be doing and a lot go into their shell when things go against us.
Poor players generally make poor decisions and throw in the manager who is also making some questionable decisions and the owner(s) who have made some dreadful decisions since 2017 its hardly surprising we are where we are.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2023 18:50:57 GMT
Did you say this 12 months ago and before that? Why are you so happy to plod along with this shit? Completely missing the point of the thread No it’s not. The point of the thread is not very good anyway. His wait 12 months nonsense is just another thing. A sub part of it. Showing why quite a number of fans are so frustrated with this shower and other fans for accepting the crap.
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Post by thehoof on Feb 18, 2023 18:58:37 GMT
Blackpool hadn’t won a league game in 14 attempts, prior to the Stoke game. It’s no good dominating a game if you don’t score. It’s no good picking a midfield that gets blown away by any breeze greater than 2 mph. It’s criminal to be paying a 34 year old 20k a week, when in the previous two seasons he’d managed to make 7 appearances. It’s beyond comprehension that people who spend their entire working life practicing basic footballing skills clearly haven’t mastered the art of 1) trapping a ball, 2) passing a ball to a team mate, 3) don’t have any heart when things get difficult. The abuse of some players is over the top, but I find it absolutely laughable that anyone can defend the shambles that is Stoke’s management, the 11 who were on the pitch for the majority of the game and then start blaming supporters who again turned up in their numbers and who only need to see some sort of commitment from the weak willed,, Lilly livered, overpaid charlatans that masquerade as professional footballers, to get behind them.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 18, 2023 18:59:34 GMT
Completely missing the point of the thread No it’s not. The point of the thread is not very good anyway. His wait 12 months nonsense is just another thing. A sub part of it. Showing why quite a number of fans are so frustrated with this shower and other fans for accepting the crap. For a thread whose content you think is sub optimal you’re sure investing in it. You can be a strange boy
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 18, 2023 19:05:10 GMT
No it’s not. The point of the thread is not very good anyway. His wait 12 months nonsense is just another thing. A sub part of it. Showing why quite a number of fans are so frustrated with this shower and other fans for accepting the crap. For a thread whose content you think is sub optimal you’re sure investing in it. You can be a strange boy Whatever you may think of Bayern, he’s not wrong and hasn’t been far wrong for the last 5/6 years. The sooner the fans wake up and realise the better but unfortunately there a cult like following who won’t have a bad word said against the family
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Post by figo85 on Feb 18, 2023 19:07:25 GMT
I can imagine the fans weren’t abusing the players for the previous 90 minutes, it’s a culmination of abject mediocrity that we’ve come to expect in the red and white of Stoke.
Yes we may have been above our stations whilst in the prem, but we are currently dropping like a stone, and our squad of players don’t seem to have the ability to get us out of the dire straights we find ourselves.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Feb 18, 2023 19:09:28 GMT
For a thread whose content you think is sub optimal you’re sure investing in it. You can be a strange boy Whatever you may think of Bayern, he’s not wrong and hasn’t been far wrong for the last 5/6 years. The sooner the fans wake up and realise the better but unfortunately there a cult like following who won’t have a bad word said against the family He just said he shouts vitriolic abuse at every game… Don’t know him/her/they/pussycat personally but some of his utterances on this board are strange. I’d rather be in the so called Coates cult that directly call a player a cunt…
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Post by pushon on Feb 18, 2023 19:18:06 GMT
No not re the lack of quality in the final third, I'm ashamed and angry at a sizeable section of our fans who found it acceptable to scream abuse at the players at the end No problem with having an opinion re players not playing well or whatever or even booing (didn't think that was warranted mind) but to dish out the full on abuse to a side that has dominated and worked their socks off was disgusting. Josh Laurent in particular was getting both barrels which was ludicrous If I was a player I'd want to leave Spot on. It was embarrassing but at the end of the day, we have to remember they are thick as two short planks. They haven't got a clue. That's Stoke on Trent for you, even clueless Nigel Johnson was a senior figure in the local education system.😳
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Post by penkhullite on Feb 18, 2023 19:24:38 GMT
I'm ashamed and angry we have naive, clueless fans who think that was a performance worth anything more. The token little clap in our direction, pitiful, embarrassing and even more annoying than what was served up.
We didn't work hard, we ran around lumping balls that we didn't win and looked like we were running again failing to win 2nd balls from the shite initial ball...and repeat. We made ourselves work hard.
The only thing I will agree with you on about the angry fans point, is I was fuming at the fact we joined in with their songs with our words and their drummer along with the "going down" song. We won't be far behind. Embarrassing.
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Post by hoppo96 on Feb 18, 2023 19:25:30 GMT
I think the players don't deserve a lot of the abuse (that said, some of them are really rubbish) but it's just natural anger that should probably be directed elsewhere. Most of our players are at this level for a reason, they're not the reason we've declined this badly.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 18, 2023 19:28:15 GMT
When they get home and look at their bank balance I'm sure they will feel a lot better & won't give a shit about getting booed.
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Post by logdog on Feb 18, 2023 19:44:19 GMT
That pillock won't understand. Too stuck in his miserable life ways What’s to be happy about with this club? If there was one thing I could see that you have a point. But you just don’t. It’s a toxic wasteland where players and managers go to die. Leach off the owners and have a jolly. All whilst they accept it and let it carry thinking it’s fine. What is the light at the end of the tunnel? Toxic wasteland you say? Have you ever wondered what some of the contributing factors to that atmosphere might be, Bayern? Look up the word supporter…
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Post by thehoof on Feb 18, 2023 20:07:23 GMT
What’s to be happy about with this club? If there was one thing I could see that you have a point. But you just don’t. It’s a toxic wasteland where players and managers go to die. Leach off the owners and have a jolly. All whilst they accept it and let it carry thinking it’s fine. What is the light at the end of the tunnel? Toxic wasteland you say? Have you ever wondered what some of the contributing factors to that atmosphere might be, Bayern? Look up the word supporter… If you think that being a supporter means just accepting whatever rubbish is offered, I’d suggest you look up the definition of “ Seal” and keep accepting the fish that are thrown your way. Unfortunately Bayern has been pointing out the outcome of our decisions for several seasons, and is being proved correct. He should however admit that he thought Delap was bound to be a success, when some people (like me) pointed out that turning it on for Man C u23’s didn’t mean anything.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 18, 2023 20:09:54 GMT
What’s to be happy about with this club? If there was one thing I could see that you have a point. But you just don’t. It’s a toxic wasteland where players and managers go to die. Leach off the owners and have a jolly. All whilst they accept it and let it carry thinking it’s fine. What is the light at the end of the tunnel? Toxic wasteland you say? Have you ever wondered what some of the contributing factors to that atmosphere might be, Bayern? Look up the word supporter… You pay your ticket money, you're supporting the club
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2023 20:31:47 GMT
What’s to be happy about with this club? If there was one thing I could see that you have a point. But you just don’t. It’s a toxic wasteland where players and managers go to die. Leach off the owners and have a jolly. All whilst they accept it and let it carry thinking it’s fine. What is the light at the end of the tunnel? Toxic wasteland you say? Have you ever wondered what some of the contributing factors to that atmosphere might be, Bayern? Look up the word supporter… People clapped the relegation side off. Happy clapping and putting up with this shit is the only issue with the fanbase.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2023 20:32:30 GMT
Toxic wasteland you say? Have you ever wondered what some of the contributing factors to that atmosphere might be, Bayern? Look up the word supporter… If you think that being a supporter means just accepting whatever rubbish is offered, I’d suggest you look up the definition of “ Seal” and keep accepting the fish that are thrown your way. Unfortunately Bayern has been pointing out the outcome of our decisions for several seasons, and is being proved correct. He should however admit that he thought Delap was bound to be a success, when some people (like me) pointed out that turning it on for Man C u23’s didn’t mean anything. I’ve happily admitted that!
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 18, 2023 21:01:58 GMT
Why are posts being removed off this thread?
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Post by Admin on Feb 18, 2023 21:03:31 GMT
Why are posts being removed off this thread? Read the message board rules and then be thankful that you're still allowed to post.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 18, 2023 21:04:57 GMT
I’ve just seen their goal on TV and Thompson turned his back.
If any audible abuse was fired in his direction it’s well deserved.
Defensive midfielder my arse. He’s toss!
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 18, 2023 21:06:00 GMT
Toxic wasteland you say? Have you ever wondered what some of the contributing factors to that atmosphere might be, Bayern? Look up the word supporter… People clapped the relegation side off. Happy clapping and putting up with this shit is the only issue with the fanbase. I will never, ever forget sitting there after our relegation was confirmed and people around me were clapping the team off. It was utterly bizarre.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Feb 18, 2023 21:06:37 GMT
Why are posts being removed off this thread? Read the message board rules and then be thankful that you're still allowed to post. I wasn't abusing any particular player, they're all an embarrassment and should be ashamed of themselves, except the young lads coming from the academy. I didn't give any personal abuse at all
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 18, 2023 21:08:02 GMT
What is shambolic is that since we were relegated we have not finished in the top 10, in this league, that is reason enough to hang out head in shame..
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Post by Billy the kid on Feb 18, 2023 21:16:03 GMT
You make me sick Nobody is defending the team they are saying it’s not acceptable to give verbal hate filled abuse You are beyond the pale You still defend the useless owners. The ultimate issue. Just wake up. I'm far from enthused about the way the club is being run, but what alternative do you see shouldn't he family sell up. In your opinion what does scfc look like post Coates? What sort of ownership do you realistically think will buy the club?
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Post by greyface on Feb 18, 2023 21:20:41 GMT
Abuse of players is never acceptable and will be counter productive anyway. We all shout things in the heat of the moment but at the end of the game ,I can't see what it's going to achieve. I don't think there's a lack of effort with this group ,they just aren't very good at what they are meant to be doing and a lot go into their shell when things go against us. Poor players generally make poor decisions and throw in the manager who is also making some questionable decisions and the owner(s) who have made some dreadful decisions since 2017 its hardly surprising we are where we are. Agree with this. The whole league is shit, some are just shitter than others. Being full on abusive towards the players is never going to help.
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