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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 6, 2023 2:52:54 GMT
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Post by Northy on Feb 6, 2023 8:00:25 GMT
One of my colleagues from down South is a Southend fan, goes home and some away and we have a chat about it over a beer now and then when I'm down, it's been rumbling on for years, but a pity they were only getting 3000 fans for years, now it's doubled
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Post by werrington on Feb 6, 2023 8:58:53 GMT
Yet we’ve got utter morons on here wanting the Coates family removed
Fools every last one of them
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Post by str8outtahampton on Feb 6, 2023 9:22:24 GMT
Yet we’ve got utter morons on here wanting the Coates family removed Fools every last one of them Some do of course. But I think most people that have given it any thought argue for something along the following lines. - it is good that our owners are fans and big local employers. Very good in fact - Bet365 is an extraordinarily successful company. Almost by definition it must be aggressive and ruthless in its approach - it would not survive and prosper without strong, forward-looking and resilient leadership (with succession-planning "baked in") - irrespective of the relationship between Bet365 and the ownership of the club, you would think the latter could learn from the former - and in particular it could learn that effective leadership is not necessarily secured by "keeping it in the family". Mind you, that's no more than a guess. Meanwhile - shame for the Shrimpers. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 6, 2023 10:00:28 GMT
Yet we’ve got utter morons on here wanting the Coates family removed Fools every last one of them Yeah imagine wanting better and not being happy with the current shit we have. |
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 6, 2023 10:09:41 GMT
Yet we’ve got utter morons on here wanting the Coates family removed Fools every last one of them Yeah imagine wanting better and not being happy with the current shit we have. Wolves is a great example to look at. Dodgy foreign owners apparently, not local and no affinity to the club yet have appointed a top class manager when rock bottom of the PL. He'll keep them up. Contrast that to the wonderful, local owners who 'know the club and know the game' who lumbered us with Paul Lambert in 2018, who accelerated our drop to the bottom half of the Championship where we've stayed ever since. Two sides to every story aren't there? Besides, isn't Ron Martin a local businessman to Southend and a Southend fan? 🤣 |
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Post by chamberlain on Feb 6, 2023 10:09:46 GMT
Yet we’ve got utter morons on here wanting the Coates family removed Fools every last one of them Yeah imagine wanting better and not being happy with the current shit we have. What are the odds of getting better ? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 6, 2023 10:11:47 GMT
Yeah imagine wanting better and not being happy with the current shit we have. Wolves is a great example to look at. Dodgy foreign owners apparently, not local and no affinity to the club yet have appointed a top class manager when rock bottom of the PL. He'll keep them up. Contrast that to the wonderful, local owners who 'know the club and know the game' who lumbered us with Paul Lambert in 2018, who accelerated our drop to the bottom half of the Championship where we've stayed ever since. Two sides to every story aren't there? Besides, isn't Ron Martin a local businessman to Southend and a Southend fan? 🤣 It's all a load of bollocks isn't it. I wish I still could believe the Coates' will change when it comes to learning how to run us properly but it's just been going on for too long. There's no light at the end of the tunnel. |
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Post by werrington on Feb 6, 2023 10:17:58 GMT
Yet we’ve got utter morons on here wanting the Coates family removed Fools every last one of them Yeah imagine wanting better and not being happy with the current shit we have. Yeah I want one of those Southend types You need the real world Bayern but anyway I’ve been down this rabbit hole before so I’m out |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 6, 2023 10:19:09 GMT
Yeah imagine wanting better and not being happy with the current shit we have. Yeah I want one of those Southend types You need the real world Bayern but anyway I’ve been down this rabbit hole before so I’m out You've even admitted in another thread that the club is hopeless (pretty much) and yet you don't want change. The two views just shouldn't sit side by side. |
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Post by werrington on Feb 6, 2023 10:20:53 GMT
Yeah imagine wanting better and not being happy with the current shit we have. Wolves is a great example to look at. Dodgy foreign owners apparently, not local and no affinity to the club yet have appointed a top class manager when rock bottom of the PL. He'll keep them up. Contrast that to the wonderful, local owners who 'know the club and know the game' who lumbered us with Paul Lambert in 2018, who accelerated our drop to the bottom half of the Championship where we've stayed ever since. Two sides to every story aren't there? Besides, isn't Ron Martin a local businessman to Southend and a Southend fan? 🤣 Until they eventually get relegated ( and they will ) and the play thing becomes a hindrance with no TV money rolling in Let’s see them bailing out their beloved Wolverhampton wanderers when that happens The Coates family need to change what they do but to want them out is utterly fucking mental |
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Post by werrington on Feb 6, 2023 10:22:15 GMT
Yeah I want one of those Southend types You need the real world Bayern but anyway I’ve been down this rabbit hole before so I’m out You've even admitted in another thread that the club is hopeless (pretty much) and yet you don't want change. The two views just shouldn't sit side by side. No I didn’t ….it was the squad i was referring too The squad is not the same as the club |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 6, 2023 10:34:49 GMT
You've even admitted in another thread that the club is hopeless (pretty much) and yet you don't want change. The two views just shouldn't sit side by side. No I didn’t ….it was the squad i was referring too The squad is not the same as the club The squad is terrible because of the club mechanisms. Because we keep making the same mistakes. Because the owners are lazy. |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 6, 2023 14:20:41 GMT
Yet we’ve got utter morons on here wanting the Coates family removed Fools every last one of them Yep, because all owners are either like Southend or Stoke's with no variables |
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 6, 2023 14:29:16 GMT
Because the owners are lazy. I don't think they're lazy - I'd say that it's more a case of arrogance and an unshakeable belief that 'they know best' that has led to staggering complacency. If I was a billionaire I'd probably be the same* because, hey, I'm a fucking billionaire and as such, must be a pretty special kind of person to have achieved that kind of wealth. *I'd be dead within a week surrounded by discarded jet-packs, high-end hookers and mountains of blow |
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Post by chigstoke on Feb 6, 2023 14:34:34 GMT
Because the owners are lazy. I don't think they're lazy - I'd say that it's more a case of arrogance and an unshakeable belief that 'they know best' that has led to staggering complacency. If I was a billionaire I'd probably be the same* because, hey, I'm a fucking billionaire and as such, must be a pretty special kind of person to have achieved that kind of wealth. *I'd be dead within a week surrounded by discarded jet-packs, high-end hookers and mountains of blow Saw mountains of blow once supporting World of Twist in the early 90’s Shit band |
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Post by dirtclod on Feb 6, 2023 14:41:54 GMT
It's my toy and I'll play with it how I want, now f*ck off up the Vale or I'm telling Denise.
I'd still take that over some of these other owners, sorry.
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Post by hoppo96 on Feb 6, 2023 15:34:10 GMT
Yet we’ve got utter morons on here wanting the Coates family removed Fools every last one of them how many want them gone? Because I'm one of their bigger critics and even I don't want them gone. I just want them to not do Ron Martin type things i.e. bad things that hampen running a football club. |
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Post by hoppo96 on Feb 6, 2023 15:36:14 GMT
No I didn’t ….it was the squad i was referring too The squad is not the same as the club The squad is terrible because of the club mechanisms. Because we keep making the same mistakes. Because the owners are lazy. I could just about accept the club being ran shit but what I can't is the club being ran shit and then being expected to laud the owners/people responsible. Why is Stoke in 19th in the second tier something to shrug about? That's a failure. It seems quite a problem in the future that we're so heavily reliant on a ownership who don't have any real idea how to make us half-successful again. |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 6, 2023 16:31:43 GMT
It's my toy and I'll play with it how I want, now f*ck off up the Vale or I'm telling Denise. I'd still take that over some of these other owners, sorry. The key word there is 'some'. |
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Post by questionable on Feb 6, 2023 16:45:36 GMT
No I didn’t ….it was the squad i was referring too The squad is not the same as the club The squad is terrible because of the club mechanisms. Because we keep making the same mistakes. Because the owners are lazy. Without a shadow of doubt Jon Coates without his families clout would have us in the exact same predicament as Southend, no playing plan and absolutely no business plan. |
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Post by Northy on Feb 6, 2023 16:47:36 GMT
I thought this thread was about Southend United !
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Post by teanstoke on Feb 9, 2023 16:33:00 GMT
Well we are heading South in the End
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Post by lordb on Feb 9, 2023 17:11:07 GMT
Well we are heading South in the End We are clearly not united though |
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Post by Glory Hunter on Feb 9, 2023 18:23:29 GMT
Yet we’ve got utter morons on here wanting the Coates family removed Fools every last one of them Yeah imagine wanting better and not being happy with the current shit we have. You let me down Bayern, I liked one of your posts after 134,000 attempts. Now this again. Sorry, you are wrong. Words you don’t like, but who in their right mind would want to own the club now without an agenda of asset stripping etc. local, wealthy, proud and possibly too loyal owners. Grow up. |
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Post by UsAndThem on Feb 9, 2023 19:07:27 GMT
Yeah imagine wanting better and not being happy with the current shit we have. Wolves is a great example to look at. Dodgy foreign owners apparently, not local and no affinity to the club yet have appointed a top class manager when rock bottom of the PL. He'll keep them up. Contrast that to the wonderful, local owners who 'know the club and know the game' who lumbered us with Paul Lambert in 2018, who accelerated our drop to the bottom half of the Championship where we've stayed ever since. Two sides to every story aren't there? Besides, isn't Ron Martin a local businessman to Southend and a Southend fan? 🤣 I think for a lot of people it’s more the worry of if not the Coates family then who? We’re hardly an attractive prospect worthy of spending 10’s of millions of pounds on. We’re never going to fill a 40 or 50 thousand seater stadium week after week. Other clubs with owners who spend anywhere near what the Coates’ spend on stoke all have the above…. Newcastle, the big six, Leicester, Everton and even Wolves. We’re simply not going to get some billionaire come in and spend spend spend as there will be no return on their investment with stoke. For me it’s better the devil you know and just hoping that they can learn from mistakes made in the past with new members of the club hierarchy recently coming in |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 9, 2023 19:12:08 GMT
Haven’t the clubs “mechanisms” recently changed or have I missed something? What “mechanisms” need changing?
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Post by Northy on Feb 10, 2023 7:35:54 GMT
Haven’t the clubs “mechanisms” recently changed or have I missed something? What “mechanisms” need changing? Whose, Southends? |
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 25, 2023 10:02:06 GMT
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Post by Northy on Jul 15, 2023 11:45:29 GMT
They have cancelled their two pre season friendlies so far, todays fixture against Billericay was cancelled yesterday, Southend hardly have a team and no physio/medical team, dark days ahead again for them.
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