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Post by Rick Grimes on Jul 9, 2023 16:24:44 GMT
That's a great interview from Ben. Side note but wanted to point out that the media team are stepping it up recently, and that interview format is brilliant. The guy asking the questions was better than the other guy who normally asks them, he quite often asks questions such as looking forward to playing in front of the fans when the player has already talked about it earlier in the interview.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 10, 2023 7:01:58 GMT
Welcome home?????
He wouldn't be anywhere near us without Neil.
Decent signing for a club looking to finish mid-table.
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Post by knype on Jul 10, 2023 7:10:40 GMT
Welcome home????? He wouldn't be anywhere near us without Neil. Decent signing for a club looking to finish mid-table. So you don't rate him then? He was superb and will get even better with proper fitness
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 10, 2023 7:25:50 GMT
Our most important signing for years in my opinion! If we could add a decent target man now I think we will be a top half team at least!
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Post by Northy on Jul 10, 2023 7:38:48 GMT
Excellent news, a decent player what we have been missing, hopefully he'll be fully fit this season and a bit more mature to stop the hot headedness with the silly cards he gets now and then.
Ben and the likes of Enda are the sort of characters we've been missing for a few years.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 10, 2023 7:53:47 GMT
Welcome home? ? He wouldn't be anywhere near us without Neil. Decent signing for a club looking to finish mid-table. So you don't rate him then? He was superb and will get even better with proper fitness I think he's a decent footballer at this level and will be an asset to the team. Better than what we have but that isn't hard is it? The fact is that his career record is pretty unremarkable.
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jul 10, 2023 11:34:55 GMT
A proper defensive midfielder, a good goalie and a physical centre forward were the 3 most important positions to fill.
One down.......
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Post by jokker on Jul 13, 2023 23:07:26 GMT
Short term Pearson probablu is an okay signing, because his next to recent performances left him in good standing with the supporters. His last few not so much, but they were end of season, and if you preefer to close your eyes on the warning, then there is alwaays a chance that he may do well over a 46 game season (minus suspensions and injuries of which there could be a few.
But long term this is the exact kind of signing we should have avoided, if we had been willing to learn from our recent past. We've given him a 4-year contract, presumably because he wouldn't have accepted a shorter one, like two years maybe, so we're stuck for a long time with a player we most likely won't ever be able to get rid of and who will fetch no fee should we able to move him on towards the point where he's no longer able to do what he did for the manager a while back.
He'll be 32 by the time 2027 rolls around, unless he's also managed to sneak in a Powell-style option for another year. In other words he's ours to keep foreva. No one else will buy a player his age, but he's got the security to wind down his career any old way that he sees fit.
What happened to young, energetic and blah blah blah signings...?
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 13, 2023 23:22:34 GMT
Short term Pearson probablu is an okay signing, because his next to recent performances left him in good standing with the supporters. His last few not so much, but they were end of season, and if you preefer to close your eyes on the warning, then there is alwaays a chance that he may do well over a 46 game season (minus suspensions and injuries of which there could be a few. But long term this is the exact kind of signing we should have avoided, if we had been willing to learn from our recent past. We've given him a 4-year contract, presumably because he wouldn't have accepted a shorter one, like two years maybe, so we're stuck for a long time with a player we most likely won't ever be able to get rid of and who will fetch no fee should we able to move him on towards the point where he's no longer able to do what he did for the manager a while back. He'll be 32 by the time 2027 rolls around, unless he's also managed to sneak in a Powell-style option for another year. In other words he's ours to keep foreva. No one else will buy a player his age, but he's got the security to wind down his career any old way that he sees fit. What happened to young, energetic and blah blah blah signings...? My god he's 28 n your talking like he's done...if you listened to Neil and what kind of players he wants he mentions wanting experienced championship players who know how to win with a mixture of younger players with a point to prove... nothing up with Pearson imo
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Post by jokker on Jul 14, 2023 2:57:52 GMT
Short term Pearson probablu is an okay signing, because his next to recent performances left him in good standing with the supporters. His last few not so much, but they were end of season, and if you preefer to close your eyes on the warning, then there is alwaays a chance that he may do well over a 46 game season (minus suspensions and injuries of which there could be a few. But long term this is the exact kind of signing we should have avoided, if we had been willing to learn from our recent past. We've given him a 4-year contract, presumably because he wouldn't have accepted a shorter one, like two years maybe, so we're stuck for a long time with a player we most likely won't ever be able to get rid of and who will fetch no fee should we able to move him on towards the point where he's no longer able to do what he did for the manager a while back. He'll be 32 by the time 2027 rolls around, unless he's also managed to sneak in a Powell-style option for another year. In other words he's ours to keep foreva. No one else will buy a player his age, but he's got the security to wind down his career any old way that he sees fit. What happened to young, energetic and blah blah blah signings...? My god he's 28 n your talking like he's done...if you listened to Neil and what kind of players he wants he mentions wanting experienced championship players who know how to win with a mixture of younger players with a point to prove... nothing up with Pearson imo Not yet...but you have to keep an eye on the long term prospects is what I am saying. They're not good.
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Post by jokker on Jul 14, 2023 3:33:45 GMT
Short term Pearson probablu is an okay signing, because his next to recent performances left him in good standing with the supporters. His last few not so much, but they were end of season, and if you preefer to close your eyes on the warning, then there is alwaays a chance that he may do well over a 46 game season (minus suspensions and injuries of which there could be a few. But long term this is the exact kind of signing we should have avoided, if we had been willing to learn from our recent past. We've given him a 4-year contract, presumably because he wouldn't have accepted a shorter one, like two years maybe, so we're stuck for a long time with a player we most likely won't ever be able to get rid of and who will fetch no fee should we able to move him on towards the point where he's no longer able to do what he did for the manager a while back. He'll be 32 by the time 2027 rolls around, unless he's also managed to sneak in a Powell-style option for another year. In other words he's ours to keep foreva. No one else will buy a player his age, but he's got the security to wind down his career any old way that he sees fit. What happened to young, energetic and blah blah blah signings...? My god he's 28 n your talking like he's done...if you listened to Neil and what kind of players he wants he mentions wanting experienced championship players who know how to win with a mixture of younger players with a point to prove... nothing up with Pearson imo I don't think Neil's going to be scfc manager 12 months from now - he could be gone even sooner. Then if the next manager doesn't fancy Pearson, what are we going to do with a late 20s player on a 4+1 year contract that has no sell on value?
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 14, 2023 6:49:27 GMT
My god he's 28 n your talking like he's done...if you listened to Neil and what kind of players he wants he mentions wanting experienced championship players who know how to win with a mixture of younger players with a point to prove... nothing up with Pearson imo I don't think Neil's going to be scfc manager 12 months from now - he could be gone even sooner. Then if the next manager doesn't fancy Pearson, what are we going to do with a late 20s player on a 4+1 year contract that has no sell on value? If we get a manager who can't see the quality of Pearson then God help us!
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 14, 2023 6:51:25 GMT
My god he's 28 n your talking like he's done...if you listened to Neil and what kind of players he wants he mentions wanting experienced championship players who know how to win with a mixture of younger players with a point to prove... nothing up with Pearson imo I don't think Neil's going to be scfc manager 12 months from now - he could be gone even sooner. Then if the next manager doesn't fancy Pearson, what are we going to do with a late 20s player on a 4+1 year contract that has no sell on value? Players in their late 20s have a sell on value and those who have kept in shape in their early 30s whose game is based on reading the game rather than pace (like a DM) also attract a transfer fee. It's nonsense not to buy a player because the manager might get sacked before their contract is up - a club would never bring in anyone. Also unless we're are in serious relegation trouble by Xmas Neil isn't going to get sacked before then and a top half finish will see him keeping his job next season. Anyone making predictions on how the team will perform this season is talking through their arse because no one has the slightest idea of the starting 11 let alone how well they will play. Neil, Martin and Dublin have all said they are looking to build a side based on a blend of experience (Stevens), peak age (Pearson) and youth (TBD) and Neil said recently it was easier to get the older players on early. At no point has anyone at the club said they have a policy of only bringing in youngsters.
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Post by jokker on Jul 14, 2023 8:02:07 GMT
I don't think Neil's going to be scfc manager 12 months from now - he could be gone even sooner. Then if the next manager doesn't fancy Pearson, what are we going to do with a late 20s player on a 4+1 year contract that has no sell on value? If we get a manager who can't see the quality of Pearson then God help us! I'm sure they can see his potential, but also his potential for trouble. It's gone hand in hand with his career so far and is one of the reasons why he's spent it well below his quality.
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 14, 2023 8:05:48 GMT
Short term Pearson probablu is an okay signing, because his next to recent performances left him in good standing with the supporters. His last few not so much, but they were end of season, and if you preefer to close your eyes on the warning, then there is alwaays a chance that he may do well over a 46 game season (minus suspensions and injuries of which there could be a few. But long term this is the exact kind of signing we should have avoided, if we had been willing to learn from our recent past. We've given him a 4-year contract, presumably because he wouldn't have accepted a shorter one, like two years maybe, so we're stuck for a long time with a player we most likely won't ever be able to get rid of and who will fetch no fee should we able to move him on towards the point where he's no longer able to do what he did for the manager a while back. He'll be 32 by the time 2027 rolls around, unless he's also managed to sneak in a Powell-style option for another year. In other words he's ours to keep foreva. No one else will buy a player his age, but he's got the security to wind down his career any old way that he sees fit. What happened to young, energetic and blah blah blah signings...? There's every chance we've given him a 4 year contract to water down both his transfer fee and wages.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 14, 2023 8:18:39 GMT
If we get a manager who can't see the quality of Pearson then God help us! I'm sure they can see his potential, but also his potential for trouble. It's gone hand in hand with his career so far and is one of the reasons why he's spent it well below his quality. Still one of the better midfielders in the Championship.
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Post by a on Jul 14, 2023 8:32:02 GMT
That's a great interview from Ben. Side note but wanted to point out that the media team are stepping it up recently, and that interview format is brilliant. The guy asking the questions was better than the other guy who normally asks them, he quite often asks questions such as looking forward to playing in front of the fans when the player has already talked about it earlier in the interview. Didn’t they hire a new social media bod? Might have something to do with that. Much better tho for sure
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Post by a on Jul 14, 2023 8:33:42 GMT
If we get a manager who can't see the quality of Pearson then God help us! I'm sure they can see his potential, but also his potential for trouble. It's gone hand in hand with his career so far and is one of the reasons why he's spent it well below his quality. I think I read that his first red card came when playing for us in that game he was given a second yellow for dissent. I’m surprised if that’s true!
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 14, 2023 8:37:50 GMT
I'm sure they can see his potential, but also his potential for trouble. It's gone hand in hand with his career so far and is one of the reasons why he's spent it well below his quality. I think I read that his first red card came when playing for us in that game he was given a second yellow for dissent. I’m surprised if that’s true! No that was his 5th red card, he was a naughty boy in 18/19 and got 3 red cards. 1st red card was 12th Aug 2017 against Leeds.
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Post by a on Jul 14, 2023 10:24:03 GMT
I think I read that his first red card came when playing for us in that game he was given a second yellow for dissent. I’m surprised if that’s true! No that was his 5th red card, he was a naughty boy in 18/19 and got 3 red cards. 1st red card was 12th Aug 2017 against Leeds. That figures 😂 It might’ve just been me mishearing the commentator
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Post by davethebass on Jul 14, 2023 13:08:55 GMT
So, do we need a back up DM for when Ben gets suspended? Or will our tactical adaptability that Alex referred to see us through?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 14, 2023 13:14:40 GMT
So, do we need a back up DM for when Ben gets suspended? Or will our tactical adaptability that Alex referred to see us through? Thompson will do as back up for now.
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Post by mr on Jul 14, 2023 13:15:12 GMT
So, do we need a back up DM for when Ben gets suspended? Or will our tactical adaptability that Alex referred to see us through? Think that’ll be Thompson.
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Post by davethebass on Jul 14, 2023 13:43:49 GMT
Fair do's. Happy with that for now.
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Post by davethebass on Jul 14, 2023 13:52:31 GMT
That's the weirdest looking post, I've somehow made it look like mr was quoting toxic. So much for trying be clever editing the code 😅
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jul 14, 2023 13:58:46 GMT
No that was his 5th red card, he was a naughty boy in 18/19 and got 3 red cards. 1st red card was 12th Aug 2017 against Leeds. That figures 😂 It might’ve just been me mishearing the commentator No what he said was “That’s his first red card this week”.
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Post by davethebass on Jul 14, 2023 14:22:05 GMT
Lol
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Post by jokker on Jul 14, 2023 15:36:31 GMT
I'm sure they can see his potential, but also his potential for trouble. It's gone hand in hand with his career so far and is one of the reasons why he's spent it well below his quality. Still one of the better midfielders in the Championship. I don't question his ability. I question the wisdom of giving him a 4+possibly 1 more contract and I express my doubt that we can get rid of him, should he misfire or the manager be replaced by someone who doeesn't use a 6.
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Post by jokker on Jul 14, 2023 15:37:40 GMT
I'm sure they can see his potential, but also his potential for trouble. It's gone hand in hand with his career so far and is one of the reasons why he's spent it well below his quality. I think I read that his first red card came when playing for us in that game he was given a second yellow for dissent. I’m surprised if that’s true! It's not.
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Post by questionable on Jul 14, 2023 15:40:53 GMT
Not a problem with this signing, without doubt a massive upgrade and the length of contract isn’t a concern for me given he’s not known for his pace, Whelan Mk2.
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