Freedom of speech - a strange thing

[musik]

Some politician in Sweden had objections against a certain groups activities and words and complained about that.

What happened then? Well some so called expert on Freedom of speech said he should shut up since we have freedom of speech here.

To me it just doesn't make sense.
🤣

Do freedom of speech really exist anywhere in the world?

[marylandstoke]

Jan 19, 2023 21:09:00 GMT musik said:

Some politician in Sweden had objections against a certain groups activities and words and complained about that.

What happened then? Well some so called expert on Freedom of speech said he should shut up since we have freedom of speech here.

To me it just doesn't make sense.
🤣

Do freedom of speech really exist anywhere in the world?

Oh Musik.

I feel you know, and it is clear.

No?

[maninasuitcase]

The only free thing on this planet is the air we breathe and im sure someones trying to find a way to tax it.

Freedom of speech is resigned to inner circles of like minded folk, away from prying ears of those who get upset by such conversations. 🤔🫣🫢🤫

[marylandstoke]

Jan 19, 2023 23:26:00 GMT maninasuitcase said:

The only free thing on this planet is the air we breathe and im sure someones trying to find a way to tax it.

Freedom of speech is resigned to inner circles of like minded folk, away from prying ears of those who get upset by such conversations. 🤔🫣🫢🤫

There is that level.

Also it would be frowned upon to run into a full cinema shouting “active shooter” to just watch what ensues.

[oggyoggy]

People are free to say whatever they want. But words can have consequences (see defamation laws).

[musik]

Jan 20, 2023 16:26:01 GMT oggyoggy said:

People are free to say whatever they want. But words can have consequences (see defamation laws).

I'm sure it has been on the news not only in Sweden but around the world, including England.

Someone had hung a doll upside down that looked like Erdogan, somewhere in Stockholm. I read, historically it had something to do with Mussolini. However, I'm not at all interested in history, a totally pointless area if you ask me.

Nevertheless, our Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson, M Party (the Conservatives) accused the group who had done this for sabotage during our Nato application and that it also was disgusting.

Then some so called expert regarding freedom of speech said the Prime Minister should shut up, since we have freedom of speech here (a remark of mine: sort of anyway).

The action with the doll can't get anyone victed since it wasn't against any law, they said tonight. Not against any defamation law either.

THIS has been on the news all day and all evening. Plus handball. Practically, nothing else!

A conflict between freedom of speech and what's appropriate in certain situations.

Personally I don't get it. If someone hangs a doll upside down in the name of freedom of speech, why can't our own Prime minister have any objections about it in the name of freedom of speech as well???

🤔

Edith: I've actually noticed two more news here today.
1) some nutter here who is considered the striptease king or something had called the Sports union and required sex to be considered a sport, just like boxing, football, handball, athletics and should be a part of the Olympic games.
2) a new trend here (and perhaps worldwide) amongst youngsters is to say a person is dead who is alive, to a person who admires or loves that person. Sickos!🖕

[wannabee]

Jan 20, 2023 21:04:31 GMT musik said:

Jan 20, 2023 16:26:01 GMT oggyoggy said:

People are free to say whatever they want. But words can have consequences (see defamation laws).

I'm sure it has been on the news not only in Sweden but around the world, including England.

Someone had hung a doll upside down that looked like Erdogan, somewhere in Stockholm. I read, historically it had something to do with Mussolini. However, I'm not at all interested in history, a totally pointless area if you ask me.

Nevertheless, our Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson, M Party (the Conservatives) accused the group who had done this for sabotage during our Nato application and that it also was disgusting.

Then some so called expert regarding freedom of speech said the Prime Minister should shut up, since we have freedom of speech here (a remark of mine: sort of anyway).

The action with the doll can't get anyone victed since it wasn't against any law, they said tonight. Not against any defamation law either.

THIS has been on the news all day and all evening. Plus handball. Practically, nothing else!

A conflict between freedom of speech and what's appropriate in certain situations.

Personally I don't get it. If someone hangs a doll upside down in the name of freedom of speech, why can't our own Prime minister have any objections about it in the name of freedom of speech as well???

🤔

Edith: I've actually noticed two more news here today.
1) some nutter here who is considered the striptease king or something had called the Sports union and required sex to be considered a sport, just like boxing, football, handball, athletics and should be a part of the Olympic games.
2) a new trend here (and perhaps worldwide) amongst youngsters is to say a person is dead who is alive, to a person who admires or loves that person. Sickos!🖕

Is the general consensus of opinion in Sweden in favour of Paludan being allowed to burn a copy of the Koran in an anti-Turkey demonstration in front of the Turkish Embassy in Stockholm an acceptable price to pay for Freedom of Speech but exclusion from NATO as a consequence?

[musik]

Jan 22, 2023 4:00:38 GMT wannabee said:

Jan 20, 2023 21:04:31 GMT musik said:

I'm sure it has been on the news not only in Sweden but around the world, including England.

Someone had hung a doll upside down that looked like Erdogan, somewhere in Stockholm. I read, historically it had something to do with Mussolini. However, I'm not at all interested in history, a totally pointless area if you ask me.

Nevertheless, our Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson, M Party (the Conservatives) accused the group who had done this for sabotage during our Nato application and that it also was disgusting.

Then some so called expert regarding freedom of speech said the Prime Minister should shut up, since we have freedom of speech here (a remark of mine: sort of anyway).

The action with the doll can't get anyone victed since it wasn't against any law, they said tonight. Not against any defamation law either.

THIS has been on the news all day and all evening. Plus handball. Practically, nothing else!

A conflict between freedom of speech and what's appropriate in certain situations.

Personally I don't get it. If someone hangs a doll upside down in the name of freedom of speech, why can't our own Prime minister have any objections about it in the name of freedom of speech as well???

🤔

Edith: I've actually noticed two more news here today.
1) some nutter here who is considered the striptease king or something had called the Sports union and required sex to be considered a sport, just like boxing, football, handball, athletics and should be a part of the Olympic games.
2) a new trend here (and perhaps worldwide) amongst youngsters is to say a person is dead who is alive, to a person who admires or loves that person. Sickos!🖕

Is the general consensus of opinion in Sweden in favour of Paludan being allowed to burn a copy of the Koran in an anti-Turkey demonstration in front of the Turkish Embassy in Stockholm an acceptable price to pay for Freedom of Speech but exclusion from NATO as a consequence?

We have no general consensus of opinion on that.
This could have been about anything really, my reaction was about why some people are allowed to speak and others not, (according to the so called expert Nils Funcke).