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Post by musik on Dec 18, 2022 12:21:31 GMT
When we reach the playoffs in April and win the promotion final in May to begin a new PL adventure in August, we have to think of bringing a few players in after all, I guess.
What areas?
What would You search for?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 18, 2022 12:43:06 GMT
New Board.
New Manager.
New Players.
New backroom staff.
New parking.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Dec 18, 2022 12:50:19 GMT
Surely you'd have to start with what players you could ditch ie send back loans, make available free, sell and what you could then bring in would be dictated by that. Given our season I don't think there's an area of the pitch you could be satisfied with.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 18, 2022 13:13:45 GMT
When we reach the playoffs in April and win the promotion final in May to begin a new PL adventure in August, we have to think of bringing a few players in after all, I guess. What areas? What would You search for? ⚽🤠👍 In the boardroom |
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Post by Goonie on Dec 18, 2022 13:21:24 GMT
DM with steel
ST who can hold up play
GK as number one
Ideal if we could only bring 3 in
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 18, 2022 14:09:10 GMT
GK, CB, DM, AM and a wide player of some sort, so not a lot really 😂
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Post by lordb on Dec 18, 2022 14:10:53 GMT
I think Musik is asking what players we need once we go up
Erm... Lots
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Post by potterpaul on Dec 18, 2022 21:50:54 GMT
New Board. New Manager. New Players. New backroom staff. New parking. 😁 New Train line and station |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 18, 2022 21:53:20 GMT
And people are replying to Musik’s post? Why?
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 18, 2022 21:55:42 GMT
New Board. New Manager. New Players. New backroom staff. New parking. 😁 New Train line and station Monorail, monorail, monorail ……. |
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Post by pretzel on Dec 18, 2022 22:05:35 GMT
What would You search for? That post from Felonious which said he'd show his arse in Burtons window if we ever reached the Prem again in his lifetime |
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Post by cvillestokie on Dec 18, 2022 22:47:04 GMT
When we reach the playoffs in April and win the promotion final in May to begin a new PL adventure in August, we have to think of bringing a few players in after all, I guess. What areas? What would You search for? ⚽🤠👍 Target man Defensive midfielder Goalkeeper |
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Post by ashleyscfc on Dec 18, 2022 22:58:42 GMT
Target man
Physical midfielder
Attacking midfielder
Right back
Summer is going to be massive
As a minimum I think we need
GK - Bursik/New/New
RB - New/New
CB - Souttar/Wilmot/Flint/Taylor/New
LB - Tymon/New
CM - Baker/Laurent/New/New
CDM - Thompson/New
CAM - New/New
ST - New/Campbell/Gayle/Tezgel
RM/RW - Brown/New
LM/LW - DWP/New
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 18, 2022 23:09:39 GMT
Target man Physical midfielder Attacking midfielder Right back Summer is going to be massive As a minimum I think we need GK - Bursik/New/New RB - New/New CB - Souttar/Wilmot/Flint/Taylor/New LB - Tymon/New CM - Baker/Laurent/New/New CDM - Thompson/New CAM - New/New ST - New/Campbell/Gayle/Tezgel RM/RW - Brown/New LM/LW - DWP/New Would try to get Powell to sign a new deal, maybe a two year deal. I appreciate he's had injury problems but when fit he's a brilliant player in this league. Pretty much agree with your summary although I would fuck Flint off as he's shite and I'd keep Bonham as a number 2 or 3 keeper as I don't think he's done too bad since coming in for Bursik, who I think needs a loan out somewhere when we get a number one keeper in the January window. |
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Post by march4 on Dec 18, 2022 23:29:07 GMT
The key is home form.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 19, 2022 9:10:53 GMT
Definitely goalkeeper.
There's a good chance Souttar will go in which case we need two or three new centre backs - Jagielka will be gone, Taylor isn't ready, Flint isn't good enough and Wilmot makes too many mistakes. Fox is actually playing quite well at the moment and on current form is the only one I'd start with.
As to the rest it really depends on how we are going to setup and I'm not sure this is entirely clear. There are a lot of people wanting an old school DM and a target man and that's fine if that's how we want to setup. However for me it's the other way round - decide on the shape of the team and then bring in the players to play that way.
If we play with 5 at the back we need wingbacks rather than fullbacks and personally I don't see the need for a traditional DM in front of 3CBs. Equally a target man makes more sense if you are setting up to let teams come on to us and play on the counter attack and isn't the sort of striker you need if you're playing a narrow front 3 and playing to feet.
Having said that the 2 players we do need are a goalscorer (who doesn't?) and a creative midfielder. I'd let Powell go - as good a player as he his on his day his inconsistent form and injury record makes him a luxury item we can't afford and basing our hopes on him coming good is just wishful thinking. We need to look elsewhere.
If we do go for a back four then basically it's a complete overhaul of the squad - again - and will take a couple of summer windows to complete. Stick with a back 5 and we might have a promotion ready squad next season. In terms of the way the league is shaping up we could definitely be in contention for a play off place this season but I don't think we are anywhere near ready. I'd take a confidence boosting run in and the emergence of a consistent style of play to take us into the summer with an idea of what we need to be genuine promotion material.
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Post by flea79 on Dec 19, 2022 9:30:34 GMT
New Train line and station Monorail, monorail, monorail ……. but stanley matthews way is still all cracked and broken be quiet kidcrewbob the mob has spoken! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 19, 2022 9:42:38 GMT
Were we to fluke promotion we'd need to sign more players than Forest did in the Summer.
Souttar, Campbell and possibly Baker would be OK. The rest would need replacing immediately.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 19, 2022 9:47:51 GMT
Goalkeeper
Defensive midfielder
Left back
Centre half
Left winger/left sided forward
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2022 10:32:46 GMT
Were we to fluke promotion we'd need to sign more players than Forest did in the Summer. Souttar, Campbell and possibly Baker would be OK. The rest would need replacing immediately. Campbell in the Premier League 🤣 Anyway, Carry on folks because we aren't getting to the Premier League anytime soon. |
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Post by willieeetmiout on Dec 19, 2022 10:38:05 GMT
New Board. New Manager. New Players. New backroom staff. New parking. 😁 There's always one idiot. It's a new ground we need not just new parking. |
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Dec 19, 2022 10:43:33 GMT
I started to reply, then realised I don't have the time, and the internet's probably not big enough.
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Post by lordb on Dec 19, 2022 12:18:15 GMT
Were we to fluke promotion we'd need to sign more players than Forest did in the Summer. Souttar, Campbell and possibly Baker would be OK. The rest would need replacing immediately. Tymon would be OK |
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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 19, 2022 12:38:41 GMT
Goalkeeper, Defensive Midfielder and probably a couple of street food vendors
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 19, 2022 13:24:57 GMT
Definitely goalkeeper. There's a good chance Souttar will go in which case we need two or three new centre backs - Jagielka will be gone, Taylor isn't ready, Flint isn't good enough and Wilmot makes too many mistakes. Fox is actually playing quite well at the moment and on current form is the only one I'd start with. As to the rest it really depends on how we are going to setup and I'm not sure this is entirely clear. There are a lot of people wanting an old school DM and a target man and that's fine if that's how we want to setup. However for me it's the other way round - decide on the shape of the team and then bring in the players to play that way. If we play with 5 at the back we need wingbacks rather than fullbacks and personally I don't see the need for a traditional DM in front of 3CBs. Equally a target man makes more sense if you are setting up to let teams come on to us and play on the counter attack and isn't the sort of striker you need if you're playing a narrow front 3 and playing to feet. Having said that the 2 players we do need are a goalscorer (who doesn't?) and a creative midfielder. I'd let Powell go - as good a player as he his on his day his inconsistent form and injury record makes him a luxury item we can't afford and basing our hopes on him coming good is just wishful thinking. We need to look elsewhere. If we do go for a back four then basically it's a complete overhaul of the squad - again - and will take a couple of summer windows to complete. Stick with a back 5 and we might have a promotion ready squad next season. In terms of the way the league is shaping up we could definitely be in contention for a play off place this season but I don't think we are anywhere near ready. I'd take a confidence boosting run in and the emergence of a consistent style of play to take us into the summer with an idea of what we need to be genuine promotion material. I fully agree with vast swathes of the above. It's not entirely clear to me yet what Neil's long term setup is going to be. He traditionally goes with four at the back, two holding midfielders and one forward, but at Sunderland and then with us he seems to have carried on MON's liking for three at the back. The type of DM we go for depends on what that setup will be. If we go two holding midfielders then someone like Pearson is a must. But going back four means Tymon is not fit for purpose. If we go three at the back or a three man midfield, then we need more of a deeper lying playmaker to cut out attacks and also dictate play. It also means we need not only a long-term RWB (Sterling is decent though we can still do better), and also a left-footed centre-back. Overall I think we have less development work to do in beefing up a back three system than we would do trying to mould a 4-2-3-1. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 19, 2022 13:36:33 GMT
Definitely goalkeeper. There's a good chance Souttar will go in which case we need two or three new centre backs - Jagielka will be gone, Taylor isn't ready, Flint isn't good enough and Wilmot makes too many mistakes. Fox is actually playing quite well at the moment and on current form is the only one I'd start with. As to the rest it really depends on how we are going to setup and I'm not sure this is entirely clear. There are a lot of people wanting an old school DM and a target man and that's fine if that's how we want to setup. However for me it's the other way round - decide on the shape of the team and then bring in the players to play that way. If we play with 5 at the back we need wingbacks rather than fullbacks and personally I don't see the need for a traditional DM in front of 3CBs. Equally a target man makes more sense if you are setting up to let teams come on to us and play on the counter attack and isn't the sort of striker you need if you're playing a narrow front 3 and playing to feet. Having said that the 2 players we do need are a goalscorer (who doesn't?) and a creative midfielder. I'd let Powell go - as good a player as he his on his day his inconsistent form and injury record makes him a luxury item we can't afford and basing our hopes on him coming good is just wishful thinking. We need to look elsewhere. If we do go for a back four then basically it's a complete overhaul of the squad - again - and will take a couple of summer windows to complete. Stick with a back 5 and we might have a promotion ready squad next season. In terms of the way the league is shaping up we could definitely be in contention for a play off place this season but I don't think we are anywhere near ready. I'd take a confidence boosting run in and the emergence of a consistent style of play to take us into the summer with an idea of what we need to be genuine promotion material. I fully agree with vast swathes of the above. It's not entirely clear to me yet what Neil's long term setup is going to be. He traditionally goes with four at the back, two holding midfielders and one forward, but at Sunderland and then with us he seems to have carried on MON's liking for three at the back. The type of DM we go for depends on what that setup will be. If we go two holding midfielders then someone like Pearson is a must. But going back four means Tymon is not fit for purpose. If we go three at the back or a three man midfield, then we need more of a deeper lying playmaker to cut out attacks and also dictate play. It also means we need not only a long-term RWB (Sterling is decent though we can still do better), and also a left-footed centre-back. Overall I think we have less development work to do in beefing up a back three system than we would do trying to mould a 4-2-3-1. Yes - that's pretty much how I see it. I suspect Neil is sticking with 5 at the back at the moment because of the squad he has inherited more than him having a change of heart over playing 4 at the back. I know the ideal would be to be flexible enough to switch systems but to do that successfully you need very good players who can play well in multiple roles and/or a big squad. With a squad of 22 I don't think we can do that so he really needs to decide on a system and build accordingly and as you say if he does go for 4 at the back we are looking at a major overhaul yet again in the summer. |
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Post by nott1 on Dec 19, 2022 14:37:59 GMT
New Train line and station Monorail, monorail, monorail ……. Nottingham City Transport system. |
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Post by nott1 on Dec 19, 2022 14:40:40 GMT
I know, let's sign Argentina or France!
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 19, 2022 14:44:10 GMT
I know, let's sign Argentina or France! Nah, just that centre back from Australia 😉 |
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 19, 2022 15:22:02 GMT
I fully agree with vast swathes of the above. It's not entirely clear to me yet what Neil's long term setup is going to be. He traditionally goes with four at the back, two holding midfielders and one forward, but at Sunderland and then with us he seems to have carried on MON's liking for three at the back. The type of DM we go for depends on what that setup will be. If we go two holding midfielders then someone like Pearson is a must. But going back four means Tymon is not fit for purpose. If we go three at the back or a three man midfield, then we need more of a deeper lying playmaker to cut out attacks and also dictate play. It also means we need not only a long-term RWB (Sterling is decent though we can still do better), and also a left-footed centre-back. Overall I think we have less development work to do in beefing up a back three system than we would do trying to mould a 4-2-3-1. Yes - that's pretty much how I see it. I suspect Neil is sticking with 5 at the back at the moment because of the squad he has inherited more than him having a change of heart over playing 4 at the back. I know the ideal would be to be flexible enough to switch systems but to do that successfully you need very good players who can play well in multiple roles and/or a big squad. With a squad of 22 I don't think we can do that so he really needs to decide on a system and build accordingly and as you say if he does go for 4 at the back we are looking at a major overhaul yet again in the summer. And that is what you would want a sensible manager to do. I would only countenance four and the back and three in midfield if we somehow adopted Klopp's gegenpress with our wing backs swamping forward and two midfielders and holding midfielder capable of providing cover. Tymon is capable of that, but we need better than Sterling to make it work on the right. Powell certainly is not the type who would track back, but maybe Laurent and Baker could. |
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