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Post by leegthestokie90 on Dec 17, 2022 21:19:23 GMT
Was like being in old people home listening to them two embarrassing the only one who speaks sense is clive clarke probably got rid of him cus he speaks sense
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Post by loosestools on Dec 17, 2022 21:26:01 GMT
Robins TV was a prime example of how the club should move with the times. Two good and fair commentators, interviews, clips in the build up with a lovely bird hosting. Why are we so far behind clubs like bloody Bristol City? Was thinking exactly the same but I couldn't make my mind up if he was talking about a robin or a member of the female sex.
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Post by ab61 on Dec 17, 2022 21:44:57 GMT
Loved Denis as a player. But to say we deserved to be going in at half time 1-1. Jeez. We were crap.
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 17, 2022 22:17:29 GMT
Must be me. I thought they were both excellent today and Denis has forgotten more than most supporters know when he's analysing things. But, as he said, it's all about opinions and he never said that his opinion was worth more than anyone else's. Smithy's description of how much he loved the club when they went to P&G almost had me in tears. Has there ever been a more died-in-the-wool Stokie player like him? His description of how he refused to move to Manu or Leeds was so funny. But the funniest part was when he said Cloughie spoke more to his missus than he did when Cloughie was after him. Some of you lot need to give your heads a wobble when your downers start picking on two great Stokie stalwarts. And as some have said, many of us will miss him when they've gone and we have to put up with some spotty faced newbie who has no connection to us. BTW, I also like Clarkie when he's co-presenter. He's very intelligent and doesn't grate in any way. Long live Denis and Nige! OS.
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 19, 2022 4:19:42 GMT
Nigel Johnson and Dennis Smith as a pairing oh my god its just the worst. Its like a couple of senile punch drunk boxers deliberating what'd for dinner in a care home. Its just awful I mean, please tell me which part of the club is actually forward thinking? So it should be no surprise Why has it anything to do with the club?
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 19, 2022 4:23:38 GMT
Swap 'club' for 'city' and you're right. I don't really give a shit about municipal development of Stoke on Trent to be honest. I'm thousands of miles away. The club is independent, but still stinks. Find another team. The club is part of the culture of another town.
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Post by kjpt140v on Dec 19, 2022 4:25:20 GMT
6ft2 eyes are blue Denis Smith is after you nananananananana!!!! Denis Snith Denis Snith Denis Smith!! Legend. End Of. End of?
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Post by anchorman on Dec 19, 2022 10:53:14 GMT
6ft2 eyes are blue Denis Smith is after you nananananananana!!!! Denis Snith Denis Snith Denis Smith!! Legend. End Of. End of? As in end of conversation. He's a Legend and as OS said, Denis has forgotten more about the game than most have ever known about it.
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Post by citynickscfc on Dec 19, 2022 10:54:42 GMT
I don't really give a shit about municipal development of Stoke on Trent to be honest. I'm thousands of miles away. The club is independent, but still stinks. Find another team. The club is part of the culture of another town. Sorry but Man city has nothing to do with Manchester if it's owned by Arabs. The club is hardly working with the city, they may do things for the people of the city but that's like investing in your own business base. Stoke city FC do not give a shit if there is a new shopping center or bus station etc. They barely give a shit about their stadium, or the fans wishes. What's all the fuss about.. Anyway, the club has a lot to do with the commentaries on their own stream. That's what most of us in the 21st c watch if we can't attend the game. The lack of effort is astonishing. And no, sadly I can't just 'find another team'. That's not how being a fan works is it?
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 19, 2022 10:57:55 GMT
Find another team. The club is part of the culture of another town. Sorry but Man city has nothing to do with Manchester if it's owned by Arabs. The club is hardly working with the city, they may do things for the people of the city but that's like investing in your own business base. Stoke city FC do not give a shit if there is a new shipping center or bus station etc. Anyway, the club has a lot to do with the commentaries on their own stream. That's what most of us in the 21st c watch if we can't attend the game. The lack of effort is astonishing. And no, sadly I can't just 'find another team'. That's not how being a fan works is it? If you choose Swansea you can keep your username at least.
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Post by citynickscfc on Dec 19, 2022 10:59:14 GMT
Sorry but Man city has nothing to do with Manchester if it's owned by Arabs. The club is hardly working with the city, they may do things for the people of the city but that's like investing in your own business base. Stoke city FC do not give a shit if there is a new shipping center or bus station etc. Anyway, the club has a lot to do with the commentaries on their own stream. That's what most of us in the 21st c watch if we can't attend the game. The lack of effort is astonishing. And no, sadly I can't just 'find another team'. That's not how being a fan works is it? If you choose Swansea you can keep your username at least. This isn't Pokémon ffs. If I was an Arab it would be so easy.
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 19, 2022 11:15:21 GMT
If you choose Swansea you can keep your username at least. This isn't Pokémon ffs. If I was an Arab it would be so easy. Just a joke.
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Post by Fenparkpotter on Dec 19, 2022 12:33:22 GMT
I do have some sympathy for Nige - he's spent decades as a radio commentator, then in the twilight of his career, he's basically been assigned to cover radio and the live stream (not sure if he got a say in that either). Don't most clubs have dedicated commentary teams for their live stream, or do others piggyback off local radio too? Either way, it's not really much of an excuse, but I guess if he gets names wrong on the radio and no-one is around to see it (tree falling in a wood), no-one notices and no-one really cares! Although maybe a few of our most knowledgeable Stokies would question whether Jason Brown or Rory Delap was playing in 2022...
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Dec 19, 2022 12:51:20 GMT
It's swings and roundabouts with media provision. Derby are another club with a very slick matchday presentation - Rams TV - (well, they were before relegation - not sure if they've retained it). But on the flipside, I think Rotherham are another club that takes the audio from local radio - and I think most Stoke fans were well impressed with the knowledgeable and informal commentary they provided when the Radio Stoke team weren't allowed to travel to games during Covid.
It's all about getting the right people and not alienating the fan base. I do worry about the transient nature of local radio (and especially Radio Stoke) at the minute. Blakmenan and Sandoz seem to have disappeared - the current crew are pretty good, but you wonder if local sport will be just a stepping stone for many as they try and get up the ladder to Media City.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Dec 19, 2022 12:53:56 GMT
This isn't Pokémon ffs. If I was an Arab it would be so easy. Just a joke. She's very precious isn't she.
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 19, 2022 12:58:53 GMT
It's swings and roundabouts with media provision. Derby are another club with a very slick matchday presentation - Rams TV - (well, they were before relegation - not sure if they've retained it). But on the flipside, I think Rotherham are another club that takes the audio from local radio - and I think most Stoke fans were well impressed with the knowledgeable and informal commentary they provided when the Radio Stoke team weren't allowed to travel to games during Covid. It's all about getting the right people and not alienating the fan base. I do worry about the transient nature of local radio (and especially Radio Stoke) at the minute. Blakmenan and Sandoz seem to have disappeared - the current crew are pretty good, but you wonder if local sport will be just a stepping stone for many as they try and get up the ladder to Media City. The Rotherham ones weren't knowledgeable, they were just funny. Listening to our pensioners once a season would probably have novelty value. Having to listen to them for away games I don't attend is tedious. Being able to see how incredibly inaccurate they are is excruciating.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2022 13:08:59 GMT
I love that Denis is a fan first and foremost. He could be more critical at times but he just loves the club. I would rather him anyday over that moaning know-it-all Pejic.
Like many have said Clive Clarke is excellent and should be on more.
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Post by OldStokie on Dec 19, 2022 14:46:14 GMT
I do have some sympathy for Nige - he's spent decades as a radio commentator, then in the twilight of his career, he's basically been assigned to cover radio and the live stream (not sure if he got a say in that either). Don't most clubs have dedicated commentary teams for their live stream, or do others piggyback off local radio too? Either way, it's not really much of an excuse, but I guess if he gets names wrong on the radio and no-one is around to see it (tree falling in a wood), no-one notices and no-one really cares! Although maybe a few of our most knowledgeable Stokies would question whether Jason Brown or Rory Delap was playing in 2022... This I absolutely agree with. Nige is, pure and simple, a RADIO presenter and not a live stream one. The two are entirely different and require different skills. I love listening to Nige on the radio because he paints a picture of the game with his commentary... "Brown is going down the right wing towards The Boothen... he's moving to the inside right position but there's no way through. He switches it back to Souttar in the centre cirtle. Souttar plays a superb pass to Tyrese who is two yards from the left of the D of the penalty area. He passes out to Tymon who decides to move inside and passes to Powell, who is sitting lurking in the middle. There's no way through for him. He passes to Brown who is moving towards the right edge of the penalty area. Brown's sending in a great cross to the far post. Tymon's racing past his defender. He shoots! AND THE BALL IS IN THE BACK OF THE NET! Stoke 3 Burnley nil! What a fantastic goal! What do you think, Denis, former Stoke City legend and great manager? No way back now for Burnley?" Denis, giggling. "Brilliant. Reminds me of Harry Burrows with the power of that shot. We should be home and dry now. I'm going to enjoy the weekend now. I very nearly fell off my seat when that went in." Nige - laughing. "Won't do your new hip any good that won't, Denis." Denis -giggling, "As long as it gets me around Trentham Gardens with the lads in the morning then I'm not bothered about that." Both chuckle like a pair of lunatics. How can you possibly beat that? OS.
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Post by loosestools on Dec 19, 2022 15:45:52 GMT
I do have some sympathy for Nige - he's spent decades as a radio commentator, then in the twilight of his career, he's basically been assigned to cover radio and the live stream (not sure if he got a say in that either). Don't most clubs have dedicated commentary teams for their live stream, or do others piggyback off local radio too? Either way, it's not really much of an excuse, but I guess if he gets names wrong on the radio and no-one is around to see it (tree falling in a wood), no-one notices and no-one really cares! Although maybe a few of our most knowledgeable Stokies would question whether Jason Brown or Rory Delap was playing in 2022... This I absolutely agree with. Nige is, pure and simple, a RADIO presenter and not a live stream one. The two are entirely different and require different skills. I love listening to Nige on the radio because he paints a picture of the game with his commentary... "Brown is going down the right wing towards The Boothen... he's moving to the inside right position but there's no way through. He switches it back to Souttar in the centre cirtle. Souttar plays a superb pass to Tyrese who is two yards from the left of the D of the penalty area. He passes out to Tymon who decides to move inside and passes to Powell, who is sitting lurking in the middle. There's no way through for him. He passes to Brown who is moving towards the right edge of the penalty area. Brown's sending in a great cross to the far post. Tymon's racing past his defender. He shoots! AND THE BALL IS IN THE BACK OF THE NET! Stoke 3 Burnley nil! What a fantastic goal! What do you think, Denis, former Stoke City legend and great manager? No way back now for Burnley?" Denis, giggling. "Brilliant. Reminds me of Harry Burrows with the power of that shot. We should be home and dry now. I'm going to enjoy the weekend now. I very nearly fell off my seat when that went in." Nige - laughing. "Won't do your new hip any good that won't, Denis." Denis -giggling, "As long as it gets me around Trentham Gardens with the lads in the morning then I'm not bothered about that." Both chuckle like a pair of lunatics. How can you possibly beat that? OS. That is really good I could hear the pair of them as I read it - brilliant, well done OS
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 19, 2022 15:48:32 GMT
Robins TV was a prime example of how the club should move with the times. Two good and fair commentators, interviews, clips in the build up with a lovely bird hosting. Why are we so far behind clubs like bloody Bristol City? Maybe a way to avoid FFP 😉
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 19, 2022 16:36:17 GMT
I have listened to other club's commentators and I have only once thought I would love them on Stoke, and that was the 3 guys from Rotherham who have got some banter going, they weren't that young either.
So what is it people want exactly? Would pronouncing the names of players correctly really make it that much more satisfying and enjoyable?
I think that makes it more entertaining tbh.
Mostly, same as usual on here, moaning but not suggesting that much in the way of alternatives.
Anyway local radio will be gone soon, I suppose that will stop folk moaning.
In 10 years time we will probably have some kind of Siri AI type doing the commentary with a fake Potteries accent.
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Post by bigvern on Dec 19, 2022 16:45:41 GMT
When Brian Moore retired from ITV commentary I genuinely thought that watching footy on the TV would never be the same again. I quickly forgot about him when the next big match was shown. Listening to Stoke is much more personal. I have only ever known Nige doing it but I know all the pain and the small amount of joy that being a Stoke fan delivers is shared and when he finally does pack In, listening to Stoke on the wireless will never ever be the same again.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Dec 19, 2022 16:50:30 GMT
The club has many issues, challenges and woes - this ain't one of them I'd venture........we all laugh at the centre cirtle count every match !
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Post by lagwafis on Dec 19, 2022 16:58:36 GMT
In 10 years time we will probably have some kind of Siri AI type doing the commentary with a fake Potteries accent. Imagine the malfunctions it'd have watching us play
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Post by pushon on Dec 19, 2022 17:51:13 GMT
It's swings and roundabouts with media provision. Derby are another club with a very slick matchday presentation - Rams TV - (well, they were before relegation - not sure if they've retained it). But on the flipside, I think Rotherham are another club that takes the audio from local radio - and I think most Stoke fans were well impressed with the knowledgeable and informal commentary they provided when the Radio Stoke team weren't allowed to travel to games during Covid. It's all about getting the right people and not alienating the fan base. I do worry about the transient nature of local radio (and especially Radio Stoke) at the minute. Blakmenan and Sandoz seem to have disappeared - the current crew are pretty good, but you wonder if local sport will be just a stepping stone for many as they try and get up the ladder to Media City. The Rotherham ones weren't knowledgeable, they were just funny. Listening to our pensioners once a season would probably have novelty value. Having to listen to them for away games I don't attend is tedious. Being able to see how incredibly inaccurate they are is excruciating. I agree with your thoughts on this matter, I find that Nigel Johnson is embarrassingly poor in his commentary on too many occasions. He's in his eighties now I believe,surely someone with higher authority should tell him, diplomatically, that it really is time to go.
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Post by dave1 on Dec 19, 2022 18:01:04 GMT
The Rotherham ones weren't knowledgeable, they were just funny. Listening to our pensioners once a season would probably have novelty value. Having to listen to them for away games I don't attend is tedious. Being able to see how incredibly inaccurate they are is excruciating. I agree with your thoughts on this matter, I find that Nigel Johnson is embarrassingly poor in his commentary on too many occasions. He's in his eighties now I believe,surely someone with higher authority should tell him, diplomatically, that it really is time to go. Who would you rather take over, Angela??
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 19, 2022 20:05:18 GMT
I agree with your thoughts on this matter, I find that Nigel Johnson is embarrassingly poor in his commentary on too many occasions. He's in his eighties now I believe,surely someone with higher authority should tell him, diplomatically, that it really is time to go. Who would you rather take over, Angela?? No. Ideally someone under 50 with a player who has played this century.
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Post by march4 on Dec 19, 2022 20:17:34 GMT
The Rotherham ones weren't knowledgeable, they were just funny. Listening to our pensioners once a season would probably have novelty value. Having to listen to them for away games I don't attend is tedious. Being able to see how incredibly inaccurate they are is excruciating. I agree with your thoughts on this matter, I find that Nigel Johnson is embarrassingly poor in his commentary on too many occasions. He's in his eighties now I believe,surely someone with higher authority should tell him, diplomatically, that it really is time to go. In your opinion. In mine he should stay on as long as he wants to.
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Post by callas12 on Dec 19, 2022 20:37:11 GMT
I know Birmingham City, Watford and Bristol City have their own designated presenters that produce pre, half-time & full-time coverage for their home matches. Recall seeing the Watford one a year so back and GNW was the pundit in the studio they used for the player perspective.. Looked alot more professional & the commentary element was fresh and current, not trying to blend radio commentary with the live stream.. Radio commentary still has a place for sure but mixing the two up is what's causing the problems I believe. There's a reason that some match journalists cover football and commentary on matches for live radio feed and some do it for the TV coverage. Similar in nature but actually different disciplines when it comes to actually delivering the matchday experience.
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Post by marylandstoke on Dec 19, 2022 21:19:29 GMT
I do have some sympathy for Nige - he's spent decades as a radio commentator, then in the twilight of his career, he's basically been assigned to cover radio and the live stream (not sure if he got a say in that either). Don't most clubs have dedicated commentary teams for their live stream, or do others piggyback off local radio too? Either way, it's not really much of an excuse, but I guess if he gets names wrong on the radio and no-one is around to see it (tree falling in a wood), no-one notices and no-one really cares! Although maybe a few of our most knowledgeable Stokies would question whether Jason Brown or Rory Delap was playing in 2022... This I absolutely agree with. Nige is, pure and simple, a RADIO presenter and not a live stream one. The two are entirely different and require different skills. I love listening to Nige on the radio because he paints a picture of the game with his commentary... "Brown is going down the right wing towards The Boothen... he's moving to the inside right position but there's no way through. He switches it back to Souttar in the centre cirtle. Souttar plays a superb pass to Tyrese who is two yards from the left of the D of the penalty area. He passes out to Tymon who decides to move inside and passes to Powell, who is sitting lurking in the middle. There's no way through for him. He passes to Brown who is moving towards the right edge of the penalty area. Brown's sending in a great cross to the far post. Tymon's racing past his defender. He shoots! AND THE BALL IS IN THE BACK OF THE NET! Stoke 3 Burnley nil! What a fantastic goal! What do you think, Denis, former Stoke City legend and great manager? No way back now for Burnley?" Denis, giggling. "Brilliant. Reminds me of Harry Burrows with the power of that shot. We should be home and dry now. I'm going to enjoy the weekend now. I very nearly fell off my seat when that went in." Nige - laughing. "Won't do your new hip any good that won't, Denis." Denis -giggling, "As long as it gets me around Trentham Gardens with the lads in the morning then I'm not bothered about that." Both chuckle like a pair of lunatics. How can you possibly beat that? OS. Major problem with this post. You can’t ‘like’ it twice.
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