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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 13, 2022 19:36:21 GMT
It seems that following a review of the Lionesses match v Luxembourg in September the FA have admitted that transport arrangements were a shambles, offered a refund and said that they will assess a ground's suitability as a venue more rigorously in future. thefsa.org.uk/news/fa-offer-apology-refunds-to-lionesses-fans/ A shame but it seems to confirm what those of us leaving the stadium after a match already knew. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 13, 2022 19:40:05 GMT
No surprise there then
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 13, 2022 19:44:06 GMT
Absolutely no surprise. A chance to show we can hold an international event and failed. Typical of this city’s attitude
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 13, 2022 19:45:17 GMT
Doesn’t Brown play for Scotland…😉
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 13, 2022 19:45:29 GMT
Why were the travel arrangements so chaotic?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Dec 13, 2022 19:56:19 GMT
Some suggested at the time this would reflect negatively on the club , to be decried well I think this settles that one .
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Post by Boothen on Dec 13, 2022 20:02:02 GMT
Some suggested at the time this would reflect negatively on the club , to be decried well I think this settles that one . Indeed. I said at the time that this will come back and affect the club in someway, despite SCFC having nothing to do with the organisation of the 'parking' and the park & ride shit show. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 13, 2022 20:10:59 GMT
Some suggested at the time this would reflect negatively on the club , to be decried well I think this settles that one . Indeed. I said at the time that this will come back and affect the club in someway, despite SCFC having nothing to do with the organisation of the 'parking' and the park & ride shit show. From what I’ve been told Stoke City had alot to do with the organisation as you put it |
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Post by AlliG on Dec 13, 2022 20:13:53 GMT
Why were the travel arrangements so chaotic? Basically because the Park and Ride was at Trentham Gardens and the buses from there to the ground got stuck in the traffic to the ground as there are no bus lanes to by-pass the traffic. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 13, 2022 20:17:47 GMT
Indeed. I said at the time that this will come back and affect the club in someway, despite SCFC having nothing to do with the organisation of the 'parking' and the park & ride shit show. From what I’ve been told Stoke City had alot to do with the organisation as you put it They had too surely? It’s surely down to the club to make sure their ducks are in a row. Smacks of complacency |
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Post by metalhead on Dec 13, 2022 20:19:45 GMT
Why were the travel arrangements so chaotic? Basically because the Park and Ride was at Trentham Gardens and the buses from there to the ground got stuck in the traffic to the ground as there are no bus lanes to by-pass the traffic. What caused the traffic? I assume it was people trying to get to the game. Our City really does commit itself to falling flat on its arse. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 13, 2022 20:21:10 GMT
Why were the travel arrangements so chaotic? Basically because the Park and Ride was at Trentham Gardens and the buses from there to the ground got stuck in the traffic to the ground as there are no bus lanes to by-pass the traffic. Thousands of people from out of town go to Trentham Gardens. Bloody hell. |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Dec 13, 2022 20:21:43 GMT
I wouldn’t worry, we’ve had two internationals in 20 years, it’s hardly like we’ll miss it!
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 13, 2022 20:34:08 GMT
I know, let's build a train station 🤔🤔🤔😉😉
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 13, 2022 20:35:49 GMT
Basically because the Park and Ride was at Trentham Gardens and the buses from there to the ground got stuck in the traffic to the ground as there are no bus lanes to by-pass the traffic. What caused the traffic? I assume it was people trying to get to the game. Our City really does commit itself to falling flat on its arse. I came from Trentham along Longton Road to Stanley Matthews Way at 4 pm today and it took me 20+ minutes because of queuing traffic and lights. I seem to remember the problem being not enough buses doing the run so if it was taking an hour for each bus to get back to Trentham and there were only two buses you can imagine what chaos there was. |
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Post by metalhead on Dec 13, 2022 21:05:03 GMT
What caused the traffic? I assume it was people trying to get to the game. Our City really does commit itself to falling flat on its arse. I came from Trentham along Longton Road to Stanley Matthews Way at 4 pm today and it took me 20+ minutes because of queuing traffic and lights. I seem to remember the problem being not enough buses doing the run so if it was taking an hour for each bus to get back to Trentham and there were only two buses you can imagine what chaos there was. The transport links all around Stoke are extremely poor. I remember back when I lived in Meir, that the A50 was an absolutely appalling road in the morning before work or in the evening after. Basically, I had a rule that if I left any time after 8am, then I might as well just leave an hour later and turn up for work an hour late. The traffic was that bad. The A500 is horrible every morning at the moment, fucking terrible. What's weird is that I don't remember it being so bad before the pandemic. It seems to have been exacerbated post-covid. I don't know the reasons for that. If the Park and Ride was operated from Trentham, then I can think of several potential bottlenecks depending on the routes they took. If they went up Stanley Matthew's way, then you're guaranteed trouble if there's any kind of slowdown as there's simply not enough capacity for any form of congestion. Is there any reason that they didn't take the A34 and then jump on the A500 and head that way? It's a real shame and another reason why Stoke will just be left behind. I'm 32. British society doesn't hold Stoke-on-Trent in particularly high regard and this is just another reason while the next time we come up in conversation, they'll just say "oh no no no, we can't do that, what about Gloucester?". One of them. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Dec 13, 2022 23:26:01 GMT
I came from Trentham along Longton Road to Stanley Matthews Way at 4 pm today and it took me 20+ minutes because of queuing traffic and lights. I seem to remember the problem being not enough buses doing the run so if it was taking an hour for each bus to get back to Trentham and there were only two buses you can imagine what chaos there was. The transport links all around Stoke are extremely poor. I remember back when I lived in Meir, that the A50 was an absolutely appalling road in the morning before work or in the evening after. Basically, I had a rule that if I left any time after 8am, then I might as well just leave an hour later and turn up for work an hour late. The traffic was that bad. The A500 is horrible every morning at the moment, fucking terrible. What's weird is that I don't remember it being so bad before the pandemic. It seems to have been exacerbated post-covid. I don't know the reasons for that. If the Park and Ride was operated from Trentham, then I can think of several potential bottlenecks depending on the routes they took. If they went up Stanley Matthew's way, then you're guaranteed trouble if there's any kind of slowdown as there's simply not enough capacity for any form of congestion. Is there any reason that they didn't take the A34 and then jump on the A500 and head that way? It's a real shame and another reason why Stoke will just be left behind. I'm 32. British society doesn't hold Stoke-on-Trent in particularly high regard and this is just another reason while the next time we come up in conversation, they'll just say "oh no no no, we can't do that, what about Gloucester?". One of them. Remember the A500 and A50 are major routes West/East (and vice versa) between the M6 and M1 gateways. Possibly the most central in the UK (and haven’t we done well out of our location but that’s another debate) plus we have our own commuters. The problems are/were created by the UK Highways Agency they’re not controlled locally. The A34/A50 should have been the primary route to the ground, coaches/buses being convoyed by the Police. It appears a multi stakeholder partnership wasn’t created or if it was it was a shambles. Awful publicity for the City. |
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 13, 2022 23:58:27 GMT
It seems that following a review of the Lionesses match v Luxembourg in September the FA have admitted that transport arrangements were a shambles, offered a refund and said that they will assess a ground's suitability as a venue more rigorously in future. thefsa.org.uk/news/fa-offer-apology-refunds-to-lionesses-fans/ A shame but it seems to confirm what those of us leaving the stadium after a match already knew. That’s really very embarrassing isn’t it. What a shame |
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 14, 2022 1:12:15 GMT
It seems that following a review of the Lionesses match v Luxembourg in September the FA have admitted that transport arrangements were a shambles, offered a refund and said that they will assess a ground's suitability as a venue more rigorously in future. thefsa.org.uk/news/fa-offer-apology-refunds-to-lionesses-fans/ A shame but it seems to confirm what those of us leaving the stadium after a match already knew. That’s really very embarrassing isn’t it. What a shame I can think of 20 grounds that are way more suitable. Access is lousy and the open corners make it a wind tunnel not conducive to international football. It's embarrassing but not surprising. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2022 6:12:39 GMT
Was amusing when people weren’t blaming the club when there was a bloke on Twitter from the club openly asking about places for a park and ride for this game no more than a month before it 😂🤦♂️
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Post by 1nfoman on Dec 14, 2022 6:33:50 GMT
Maybe the FA should open its wallet and build a new train station next to the ground.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 14, 2022 7:13:04 GMT
I wouldn’t worry, we’ve had two internationals in 20 years, it’s hardly like we’ll miss it! But, as Badger alluded to, it was a fantastic opportunity to put the city on the map as a venue for women's and lower level men's international games. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 14, 2022 7:15:20 GMT
From what I’ve been told Stoke City had alot to do with the organisation as you put it They had too surely? It’s surely down to the club to make sure their ducks are in a row. Smacks of complacency incompetence There Badger I’ve corrected your mistake  |
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Post by metalhead on Dec 14, 2022 7:48:13 GMT
Maybe the FA should open its wallet and build a new train station next to the ground. I hate the FA just as much as the next guy, but is that really their job? |
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 14, 2022 8:55:22 GMT
I wouldn’t worry, we’ve had two internationals in 20 years, it’s hardly like we’ll miss it! But, as Badger alluded to, it was a fantastic opportunity to put the city on the map as a venue for women's and lower level men's international games. Exactly my feelings. I don't think we have ever had wider, positive national free publicity as in the run up to the match after and during the world cup. This was the chance to alter people's view of the club, ground and city. People were coming from all over the country to a celebration event. I can remember feeling how lucky we were and proud that such an event was happening at the much aligned Bet 365. The club should have grasped the chance, laid on a fleet of busses to meet people at Trentham, with stewards there greeting people and directing them, a bit like at the London Olympics. Instead we laid on 2 or 3 shuttle buses. I was lucky enough to go to the Man U v Chelsea Champions League final in Moscow and walking out of the airport straight onto a bus to the centre of Moscow and a fan zone in Red Square from early in the morning and being so impressed with the lack of hassle. It was such a great customer relations exercise as was the London Olympic, making you feel as if you'd like to go back. Surely Stoke should have done a similar, smaller exercise. It was a perfect opportunity, pleasant weather celebratory crowd some of whom were probably experiencing a football match first time. Even if we ended up not making any money we should have thrown everything at it. |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Dec 14, 2022 9:23:14 GMT
I wouldn’t worry, we’ve had two internationals in 20 years, it’s hardly like we’ll miss it! But, as Badger alluded to, it was a fantastic opportunity to put the city on the map as a venue for women's and lower level men's international games. I doubt even if things had ran smoothly it would have made much difference to us attracting those games in the future as there are plenty of similar sized stadiums across the country that could and do hold those games, whose stadiums are better attractions than ours too. After all, there’s a lot that needs to change within our city for us to be on the map as you put it, things that have nothing to do with the football club. |
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Post by senojbor on Dec 14, 2022 9:44:05 GMT
Some suggested at the time this would reflect negatively on the club , to be decried well I think this settles that one . Indeed. I said at the time that this will come back and affect the club in someway, despite SCFC having nothing to do with the organisation of the 'parking' and the park & ride shit show. You are correct. The park and ride and everything outside the ground was organised by the FA. The problem was caused by thousands of people arriving from outside the area not knowing where to park and just heading to the ground |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 14, 2022 10:11:01 GMT
It is and always has been a terrible ground in a terrible location, not sure why anyone is surprised.
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Post by jebbstuart on Dec 14, 2022 10:27:51 GMT
Has to be one of the worst places to visit for any type of game, parking's crap, transportation is crap and what is there to do before the game. If i were an away supporter probably the worse ground to visit in the country.
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Post by J-Roar on Dec 14, 2022 10:54:28 GMT
Indeed. I said at the time that this will come back and affect the club in someway, despite SCFC having nothing to do with the organisation of the 'parking' and the park & ride shit show. You are correct. The park and ride and everything outside the ground was organised by the FA. The problem was caused by thousands of people arriving from outside the area not knowing where to park and just heading to the ground Hilarious. So the problem for ab international game was outsiders coming here! |
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