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Post by woodstein on Nov 28, 2022 22:54:43 GMT
Regarding the World Cup, I thought tv commentary was supposed to be impartial? I can understand home countries getting excited about their teams (wherever in the world) but today on Itv, co-commentators Andros(s) Townsend was "glad" Cameroon had scored v Serbia and later Ally McCoist similarly, was getting moist over the best cheats in world football, Portugal scoring v Uruguay!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 23:00:11 GMT
I thought they were basing it on the balance of play to be fair which is ok enough.
I don't think many would have begrudged Canada a goal in their opening game for instance , say
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2022 23:15:46 GMT
Regarding the World Cup, I thought tv commentary was supposed to be impartial? I can understand home countries getting excited about their teams (wherever in the world) but today on Itv, co-commentators Andros(s) Townsend was "glad" Cameroon had scored v Serbia and later Ally McCoist similarly, was getting moist over the best cheats in world football, Portugal scoring v Uruguay! Ally McMoist? |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 29, 2022 16:12:18 GMT
There is no requirement on tv commentators to be impartial and there never has been to my knowledge. In practice most broadcasters have a main commentator who describes the game but more often than not the co-commentator says what they want. I don't really see why they have to be impartial - they aren't affecting the outcome of the game and if someone doesn't like it they can also mute the commentary or switch it off.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 29, 2022 16:21:58 GMT
I feel like they should be impartial or at least objective, or there's no point in having them on there.
Like Muffs says, the examples in the OP were more about the balance of play than anything else.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 29, 2022 16:31:48 GMT
Coisty ended up looking a bit daft when it transpired that Ronaldo hadnt actually headed the ball!
As a rule hes one of the better co commenators though
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Post by somersetstokie on Nov 29, 2022 16:39:36 GMT
Are we talking about just commentators, or pundits and presenters as well. Would you for example expect a well known media man such as Gary Lineker to bang on about one of his previous clubs all the time!
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Post by Billy the kid on Nov 29, 2022 17:42:27 GMT
I prefer a bit of passion to be honest. Otherwise you may aswell sick Alexa and the Apple sat nav man on comms.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 30, 2022 8:03:13 GMT
I prefer a bit of passion to be honest. Otherwise you may aswell sick Alexa and the Apple sat nav man on comms. Fans can be passionate. I want the people commentating to tell me who's on the ball, how the teams are setting up, add some context to deepen what I'm watching. |
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Post by onepara on Nov 30, 2022 8:37:12 GMT
Like Danny Murphy saying that he couldn't understand the comment, that the shot wasn't on target when it hits the upright or crossbar. After a pause, his female co-commentator said "Because it's not on target".
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 30, 2022 13:41:32 GMT
There is no requirement on tv commentators to be impartial and there never has been to my knowledge. In practice most broadcasters have a main commentator who describes the game but more often than not the co-commentator says what they want. I don't really see why they have to be impartial - they aren't affecting the outcome of the game and if someone doesn't like it they can also mute the commentary or switch it off. Warren Barton likes this post greatly. |
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 30, 2022 13:42:52 GMT
Are we talking about just commentators, or pundits and presenters as well. Would you for example expect a well known media man such as Gary Lineker to bang on about one of his previous clubs all the time! Worked for Gary Birtle for years  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 13:46:54 GMT
Ian St John once gave the MOM on ITV 19 consecutive times it was pointed out to Scottish players in league games. The one exception I seem to remember was Ray Houghton then remembered of course he was born in Glasgow.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Nov 30, 2022 13:53:11 GMT
Coisty ended up looking a bit daft when it transpired that Ronaldo hadnt actually headed the ball! As a rule hes one of the better co commenators though He called it a "great header" when in fact there was no header at all. |
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 30, 2022 14:14:20 GMT
Coisty ended up looking a bit daft when it transpired that Ronaldo hadnt actually headed the ball! As a rule hes one of the better co commenators though He called it a "great header" when in fact there was no header at all. Dubbed a ‘hairspray’ goal over here |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2022 14:34:38 GMT
I rember Diouf claiming one at Spurs quite similar but turned out he did touch it as they used and enhanced microphone or similar to prove it.
Alan Smith was always quite evasive re the 1989 one at Anfield that night which was almost identical to the Ronaldo one and of course wouldn't have counted if he hadn't touched it
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 30, 2022 14:42:20 GMT
I rember Diouf claiming one at Spurs quite similar but turned out he did touch it as they used and enhanced microphone or similar to prove it. Alan Smith was always quite evasive re the 1989 one at Anfield that night which was almost identical to the Ronaldo one and of course wouldn't have counted if he hadn't touched it I'm sure I heard someone say there was a chip in the ball which determined exactly when the ball was kicked for VAR purposes. Could that not tell them if Ronnies hair clipped the ball. Like 'snickometer'? |
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 30, 2022 15:01:03 GMT
I rember Diouf claiming one at Spurs quite similar but turned out he did touch it as they used and enhanced microphone or similar to prove it. Alan Smith was always quite evasive re the 1989 one at Anfield that night which was almost identical to the Ronaldo one and of course wouldn't have counted if he hadn't touched it I'm sure I heard someone say there was a chip in the ball which determined exactly when the ball was kicked for VAR purposes. Could that not tell them if Ronnies hair clipped the ball. Like 'snickometer'? Yes. Was for the new var system. Chip, cameras, gps. If you watch the super slow you can see there is no deviation in the balls rotation. |
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Post by dirtclod on Nov 30, 2022 17:42:03 GMT
If they apply the same stupid standard as they do to offside, then it's possible one of his molecules may have brushed it, although whatever it was didn't affect the flight or as maryland points out didn't look like the rotation of the ball changed at all.
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Post by marylandstoke on Nov 30, 2022 18:40:25 GMT
If they apply the same stupid standard as they do to offside, then it's possible one of his molecules may have brushed it, although whatever it was didn't affect the flight or as maryland points out didn't look like the rotation of the ball changed at all. Actually really appreciated the ball design for once. The pattern in the ball shell made it easier. |
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