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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 11:18:59 GMT
Heard a crowd rumour during the last home game that Man City were going to have Delap back and loan him out to a German team in the New Year. Not sure if that was pure speculating going on or there is some truth in it. Sure we'll soon find out. I can’t imagine them or him are happy with how it’s gone and they’d get him a Bundesliga club easy. And they were going to send him to Girona I was told so that’s an option still maybe and a better loan. And I didn’t get my words wrong earlier on this thread on that. I think he’ll end up at a better club on loan if they recall him. Would make sense all round. Found it way too difficult at this level.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 21, 2022 11:27:43 GMT
I can’t imagine them or him are happy with how it’s gone and they’d get him a Bundesliga club easy. And they were going to send him to Girona I was told so that’s an option still maybe and a better loan. And I didn’t get my words wrong earlier on this thread on that. I think he’ll end up at a better club on loan if they recall him. Would make sense all round. Found it way too difficult at this level. The bundesliga is a far better standard of football than our league. The quality in the championship is shit.
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Post by lordb on Nov 21, 2022 11:35:43 GMT
Would make sense all round. Found it way too difficult at this level. The bundesliga is a far better standard of football than our league. The quality in the championship is shit. Bundesliga 2 presumably
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Nov 21, 2022 11:39:15 GMT
The bundesliga is a far better standard of football than our league. The quality in the championship is shit. Bundesliga 2 presumably Ah fair enough if he meant bundesliga 2 mate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 21, 2022 13:00:13 GMT
The bundesliga is a far better standard of football than our league. The quality in the championship is shit. Bundesliga 2 presumably I think he'd get a Bundesliga club.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 21, 2022 15:45:52 GMT
I think he'd get a Bundesliga club. When it comes to young players you really do wear rose tinted glasses. He looks bang average in the Championship - he'd look way out of his depth in a Bundesliga club. Not saying he won't make it but he isn't ready for that level yet.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 21, 2022 15:49:52 GMT
I think he'd get a Bundesliga club. When it comes to young players you really do wear rose tinted glasses. He looks bang average in the Championship - he'd look way out of his depth in a Bundesliga club. Not saying he won't make it but he isn't ready for that level yet. I don't. I think they'd send him to a Bundesliga club. I think anyone worth their salt would ignore how he's done with given how Ostigard and THB have gone on since their loans. He's still very highly rated and they would make it happen or send him to their La Liga partner like they wanted to in the summer. This isn't about how he's done with us and I don't think it bother teams either.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 21, 2022 15:52:44 GMT
When it comes to young players you really do wear rose tinted glasses. He looks bang average in the Championship - he'd look way out of his depth in a Bundesliga club. Not saying he won't make it but he isn't ready for that level yet. I don't. I think they'd send him to a Bundesliga club. I think anyone worth their salt would ignore how he's done with given how Ostigard and THB have gone on since their loans. He's still very highly rated and they would make it happen or send him to their La Liga partner like they wanted to in the summer. This isn't about how he's done with us and I don't think it bother teams either. THB was always going to be good enough for us, he would have been my first signing of the season personally but once Kompany was interested that was that. Ostigard has played 2 Serie A games and a couple of Champions League dead rubbers, I wouldn't get carried away just yet.............
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Nov 21, 2022 15:56:13 GMT
When it comes to young players you really do wear rose tinted glasses. He looks bang average in the Championship - he'd look way out of his depth in a Bundesliga club. Not saying he won't make it but he isn't ready for that level yet. I don't. I think they'd send him to a Bundesliga club. I think anyone worth their salt would ignore how he's done with given how Ostigard and THB have gone on since their loans. He's still very highly rated and they would make it happen or send him to their La Liga partner like they wanted to in the summer. This isn't about how he's done with us and I don't think it bother teams either. If his name wasn't Liam Delap, he'd be talked about as another failed loan, as it stands. He's not looked anything like the player I'd eagerly anticipated. He'll push on, maybe just not yet, and not here.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 21, 2022 15:56:18 GMT
I don't. I think they'd send him to a Bundesliga club. I think anyone worth their salt would ignore how he's done with given how Ostigard and THB have gone on since their loans. He's still very highly rated and they would make it happen or send him to their La Liga partner like they wanted to in the summer. This isn't about how he's done with us and I don't think it bother teams either. THB was always going to be good enough for us, he would have been my first signing of the season personally but once Kompany was interested that was that. Ostigard has played 2 Serie A games and a couple of Champions League dead rubbers, I wouldn't get carried away just yet............. He looked way out of his depth in the system MON was playing though and made way too many mistakes. But like Delap I don't our club is a conducive environment for such a player. Ostigard wasn't a good enough footballer to be playing the way MON wanted. And he's done well for himself at Napoli.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 21, 2022 15:57:10 GMT
I don't. I think they'd send him to a Bundesliga club. I think anyone worth their salt would ignore how he's done with given how Ostigard and THB have gone on since their loans. He's still very highly rated and they would make it happen or send him to their La Liga partner like they wanted to in the summer. This isn't about how he's done with us and I don't think it bother teams either. If his name wasn't Liam Delap, he'd be talked about as another failed loan, as it stands. He's not looked anything like the player I'd eagerly anticipated. He'll push on, maybe just not yet, and not here. I agree but it is and he's at a massive club who could easily sort a loan to any mid to lower Bundesliga club out for him.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 21, 2022 16:06:39 GMT
THB was always going to be good enough for us, he would have been my first signing of the season personally but once Kompany was interested that was that. Ostigard has played 2 Serie A games and a couple of Champions League dead rubbers, I wouldn't get carried away just yet............. He looked way out of his depth in the system MON was playing though and made way too many mistakes. But like Delap I don't our club is a conducive environment for such a player. Ostigard wasn't a good enough footballer to be playing the way MON wanted. And he's done well for himself at Napoli. He's done well to get a move to Napoli, he's played 4 games so far ultimately and will warm the bench if everyone else is fit. THB was a lot better than some made out, he made a couple of errors but the stats back up the fact that he did more than ok.........
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 21, 2022 16:09:07 GMT
He looked way out of his depth in the system MON was playing though and made way too many mistakes. But like Delap I don't our club is a conducive environment for such a player. Ostigard wasn't a good enough footballer to be playing the way MON wanted. And he's done well for himself at Napoli. He's done well to get a move to Napoli, he's played 4 games so far ultimately and will warm the bench if everyone else is fit. THB was a lot better than some made out, he made a couple of errors but the stats back up the fact that he did more than ok......... He made way more than a couple of mistakes. He looked like a fish out of water.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Nov 21, 2022 17:19:53 GMT
Man City recalling Delap makes sense all round. He's done nothing to enhance his reputation here and it means we can try and bring in a different striker, to see if it gives us any more success. The real bottom line is that for the past six or seven years, Stoke has been a grave yard for strikers, with little success for any striker. Nearest to it being Jacob Brown last season I believe. Something has to change.
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Post by s7oke on Nov 21, 2022 17:28:45 GMT
I think he'd get a Bundesliga club. Dortmund it is then to soften the Bellingham deal
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Post by pieofpeter on Nov 21, 2022 20:21:03 GMT
The bundesliga is a far better standard of football than our league. The quality in the championship is shit. Bundesliga 2 presumably Some cracking sides in Bundesliga 2
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Post by musik on Nov 21, 2022 21:43:10 GMT
I think Neil has said three new players.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2022 0:01:10 GMT
I think Neil has said three new players. That came from Nixon didn't it? I think Neil has only mentioned a winger but he does keep his cards very close to his chest.
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Post by cvillestokie on Nov 22, 2022 1:33:30 GMT
I think he'd get a Bundesliga club. Dortmund it is then to soften the Bellingham deal Who is Bellingham going to replace in that midfield? He’d become a squad player.
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Post by thebet365 on Nov 22, 2022 8:59:00 GMT
Dortmund it is then to soften the Bellingham deal Who is Bellingham going to replace in that midfield? He’d become a squad player. Probably Bernado Silva, he wanted a move in the summer.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 22, 2022 9:13:30 GMT
If his name wasn't Liam Delap, he'd be talked about as another failed loan, as it stands. He's not looked anything like the player I'd eagerly anticipated. He'll push on, maybe just not yet, and not here. I agree but it is and he's at a massive club who could easily sort a loan to any mid to lower Bundesliga club out for him. I'm sure they have pulling power to arrange the loan but if he performs like he has for us he will get even less games than he is now. I can see why he would look good in youth football but he can't bully senior players and currently he lacks the guile to compensate. If anything German defenders are a tougher nut to crack than those in the Championship and he'll struggle even more.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2022 9:21:22 GMT
I agree but it is and he's at a massive club who could easily sort a loan to any mid to lower Bundesliga club out for him. I'm sure they have pulling power to arrange the loan but if he performs like he has for us he will get even less games than he is now. I can see why he would look good in youth football but he can't bully senior players and currently he lacks the guile to compensate. If anything German defenders are a tougher nut to crack than those in the Championship and he'll struggle even more. I agree but I still think it could happen if they wanted it to.
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Post by nott1 on Nov 22, 2022 10:09:24 GMT
How about USA RB Sergino Dest, belongs to Barca and on loan to AC Milan? Looks useful and not getting much playing time apparently!
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Post by lordb on Nov 22, 2022 10:46:21 GMT
How about USA RB Sergino Dest, belongs to Barca and on loan to AC Milan? Looks useful and not getting much playing time apparently! To Stoke? Presume you mean a loan? Tbh looks pretty ordinary Happy with Sterling myself
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Nov 22, 2022 12:50:13 GMT
I'm sure they have pulling power to arrange the loan but if he performs like he has for us he will get even less games than he is now. I can see why he would look good in youth football but he can't bully senior players and currently he lacks the guile to compensate. If anything German defenders are a tougher nut to crack than those in the Championship and he'll struggle even more. I agree but I still think it could happen if they wanted it to. Yes I agree they've got the pulling power to make it happen but I'm not sure Delap would get as much game time as he would here so I'm not sure how he'd benefit - except maybe by getting better coaching. There is something there and at that age he could develop quite quickly and be making a contribution by the end of the season - he just looks like he's not made that step up as yet.
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Post by vamborools on Nov 22, 2022 14:37:45 GMT
How about USA RB Sergino Dest, belongs to Barca and on loan to AC Milan? Looks useful and not getting much playing time apparently! To Stoke? Presume you mean a loan? Tbh looks pretty ordinary Happy with Sterling myself 22 year old USA International 23 appearances for Ajax 50 odd appearances for Barcelona Currently at AC Milan Not good enough for us 🤦
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Post by s7oke on Nov 22, 2022 19:15:07 GMT
Dortmund it is then to soften the Bellingham deal Who is Bellingham going to replace in that midfield? He’d become a squad player. Aren’t they all squad players ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2022 22:07:55 GMT
To Stoke? Presume you mean a loan? Tbh looks pretty ordinary Happy with Sterling myself 22 year old USA International 23 appearances for Ajax 50 odd appearances for Barcelona Currently at AC Milan Not good enough for us 🤦 It’s a fucking ridiculous suggestion 😂 Let’s try for Pedri whilst we’re at it.
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Post by lordb on Nov 22, 2022 22:21:38 GMT
To Stoke? Presume you mean a loan? Tbh looks pretty ordinary Happy with Sterling myself 22 year old USA International 23 appearances for Ajax 50 odd appearances for Barcelona Currently at AC Milan Not good enough for us 🤦 Given his CV you'd think he had good quality I've only ever seen him look very ordinary Despite his ordinaryness I presume he would be too expensive Sterling is a Chelsea player and looks good to me Just too many niggling injuries atm
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Post by nott1 on Nov 23, 2022 8:59:34 GMT
How about USA RB Sergino Dest, belongs to Barca and on loan to AC Milan? Looks useful and not getting much playing time apparently! To Stoke? Presume you mean a loan? Tbh looks pretty ordinary Happy with Sterling myself Ordinary is better than most of our players don't you know!
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