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Post by ChesterStokie on Nov 3, 2022 17:41:06 GMT
Ooh, another James McClean thread. Just what we needed. To be fair, as James McClean threads go, this one isn't too bad so far.
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Post by cvillestokie on Nov 3, 2022 17:44:34 GMT
Surely Jordan Cousins was their MoM? Brilliant - I am sure all the FM experts on here will tell us he had a bad night. Oh how we miss him I’m sorry, have we looked like our midfield has been a strength of ours since his departure? He’s not exactly an amazing player, but he offered just as much (if not more) defensively than Allen at a fraction of the cost. I’d prefer to have him in the squad now than Kilkenny and Smallbone. He’s also not as injury prone as Thompson.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 3, 2022 18:02:07 GMT
However some of us would like to re-write our history, he was the best player for us that season and most people thought that at the time. He was a poor signing overall, but did very well for us for one season. He wasn’t though. Wasn’t it the season Clucas scored 11 from midfield? It was a daft decision like most of the pots votes are McClean contributed 7 goals and 7 assists Clucas 11 goals and 3 assists so make of that what you will. Fans voted for him, and that was a pretty decent contribution, highest assists out of the team, so he wasn't the worst player we have ever had, as some try to make out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2022 18:03:17 GMT
Ooh, another James McClean thread. Just what we needed. To be fair, as James McClean threads go, this one isn't too bad so far. Think people are sick of hearing and talking about him now. I certainly am.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 3, 2022 18:05:12 GMT
To be fair, as James McClean threads go, this one isn't too bad so far. Think people are sick of hearing and talking about him now. I certainly am. It's not compulsory if you're not interested!
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Post by creweoatcake1 on Nov 3, 2022 18:38:45 GMT
Because he was tbf Also tonight he was the only threat Wigan had Says More about Wigan than him in my opinion!
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Post by felonious on Nov 3, 2022 18:41:57 GMT
My memory of him, chasing down the ball to win the corner that he took and we scored against Sheff Wed winning 3-2 deep into injury time with the most prolific striker we ever had in Volkes. Thats it that is my only memory of him because of the brilliant injury time come back from 1-2 down to win on Boxing Day 2019 Wasn't he also injured at the time he was busting a gut?
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 3, 2022 22:05:49 GMT
What a shit player he is. Exactly how he was for us - can't cross, shoot and is deceptively slow. How fucking Rowett thought this clown was the right fit for us is laughable. How he got player of the season is still beyond me. I enjoyed his time at Stoke, he was a hundred per center and I enjoy those ayers. He did well at Stoke
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 12:47:36 GMT
Think people are sick of hearing and talking about him now. I certainly am. It's not compulsory if you're not interested! Problem is mate, as much as I hate it, it is compulsory. This site is more addictive than heroin, and try as I might I have to read it on a daily basis, and I find it just as hard to not put my point of view across even though nobody gives a flying fuck whether I do or not, or about what I've got to say
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Post by marwood on Nov 4, 2022 13:19:56 GMT
if only he was as good as he tweets he is
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 13:37:06 GMT
if only he was as good as he tweets he is Don't ever remember him Tweeting how good he was Seems some are a bit obsessed with him still .
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Nov 4, 2022 15:28:09 GMT
What a shit player he is. Exactly how he was for us - can't cross, shoot and is deceptively slow. How fucking Rowett thought this clown was the right fit for us is laughable. How he got player of the season is still beyond me. He has played well over 450 games in the top two tiers of English football, for 4 different clubs. You can't do that unless you are a very good player. He was one of my favourite players at Stoke, both because of his on-field effort and his generosity to good causes, both locally in North Staffs and in his home City of Derry.
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Post by dirtclod on Nov 4, 2022 15:31:46 GMT
It's not compulsory if you're not interested! Problem is mate, as much as I hate it, it is compulsory. This site is more addictive than heroin, and try as I might I have to read it on a daily basis, and I find it just as hard to not put my point of view across even though nobody gives a flying fuck whether I do or not, or about what I've got to say There are at least 10-12 people poised on your every sentence. (Looking for something to argue about, of course!)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 16:10:50 GMT
What a shit player he is. Exactly how he was for us - can't cross, shoot and is deceptively slow. How fucking Rowett thought this clown was the right fit for us is laughable. How he got player of the season is still beyond me. He has played well over 450 games in the top two tiers of English football, for 4 different clubs. You can't do that unless you are a very good player. He was one of my favourite players at Stoke, both because of his on-field effort and his generosity to good causes, both locally in North Staffs and in his home City of Derry. I hate that argument. He's played at the top level so of course, compared to people like us he's a very good player. Put him up against his peers at the top level and he is fucking shit, and against players in the 2nd tier he is as average as they come. The day he left our football club was a good day, and I'd prefer to not remember the period that he was at our club.
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Post by spitthedog on Nov 4, 2022 16:28:57 GMT
if only he was as good as he tweets he is Don't ever remember him Tweeting how good he was Seems some are a bit obsessed with him still . People just make stuff up, it's sad really!
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Nov 4, 2022 16:33:09 GMT
He has played well over 450 games in the top two tiers of English football, for 4 different clubs. You can't do that unless you are a very good player. He was one of my favourite players at Stoke, both because of his on-field effort and his generosity to good causes, both locally in North Staffs and in his home City of Derry. I hate that argument. He's played at the top level so of course, compared to people like us he's a very good player. Put him up against his peers at the top level and he is fucking shit, and against players in the 2nd tier he is as average as they come. The day he left our football club was a good day, and I'd prefer to not remember the period that he was at our club. We clearly don't agree, but all I will say is that the number of games he played in the PL shows that various professional coaches and managers didn't agree with your assessment that he was "fucking shit" at that level.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 16:38:30 GMT
Don't ever remember him Tweeting how good he was Seems some are a bit obsessed with him still . People just make stuff up, it's sad really! Absolutely. Some can't wait for his next Tweet then complain about it and were seemingly paying more attention to him than our players on Wednesday. You'd think they'd got over it when he left but obviously not. Look what McLean has posted now, I'm so offended and had to read it of course because I follow him, waiting for another reason
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Post by anchorman on Nov 4, 2022 17:00:02 GMT
What a shit player he is. Exactly how he was for us - can't cross, shoot and is deceptively slow. How fucking Rowett thought this clown was the right fit for us is laughable. How he got player of the season is still beyond me. He has played well over 450 games in the top two tiers of English football, for 4 different clubs. You can't do that unless you are a very good player. He was one of my favourite players at Stoke, both because of his on-field effort and his generosity to good causes, both locally in North Staffs and in his home City of Derry. I completely agree with you Malcolm. He was one of my favourite players too from that particular team, he was fearless, committed, played with real heart & desire and never gave anything less than 100%. His generosity both in North Staffs and his home town of Derry was phenomenal. Referring to my previous post regarding meeting James McClean, I gave him a copy of Don Mullan's book Gordon Banks - A Hero Who Could Fly. It's a story of a young Catholic boy who lived through the troubles (in Derry)and how the then England goalkeeper Gordon Banks inspired him. James McClean was incredibly grateful to receive the book, showing great humility actually. I would recommend that any Stokies who haven't yet read this beautiful story do so, it's enlightening. Particularly perhaps, those chanting anti IRA rhetoric. I recall Huddersfield away when we put 5 past them. James was superb that day. During a break in play, he was waiting to take a corner or a free kick right by the Huddersfield fans who abused him in the most disgusting manner I've ever seen. He stood tall and faced them, something no footballer, no person should have to do but he did it and I admire him greatly for it. I approached a police officer and pointed out that he was being racially abused. Sadly and not surprisingly it fell on deaf ears. However, the vociferous response from the Stokies in the away end that day brought me out in goose bumps as the chant Super James McClean rang out loud and proud.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 17:00:21 GMT
I hate that argument. He's played at the top level so of course, compared to people like us he's a very good player. Put him up against his peers at the top level and he is fucking shit, and against players in the 2nd tier he is as average as they come. The day he left our football club was a good day, and I'd prefer to not remember the period that he was at our club. We clearly don't agree, but all I will say is that the number of games he played in the PL shows that various professional coaches and managers didn't agree with your assessment that he was "fucking shit" at that level. That is no barometer Graham Taylor thought Carlton Palmer was a good player
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Nov 4, 2022 17:29:36 GMT
He has played well over 450 games in the top two tiers of English football, for 4 different clubs. You can't do that unless you are a very good player. He was one of my favourite players at Stoke, both because of his on-field effort and his generosity to good causes, both locally in North Staffs and in his home City of Derry. I completely agree with you Malcolm. He was one of my favourite players too from that particular team, he was fearless, committed, played with real heart & desire and never gave anything less than 100%. His generosity both in North Staffs and his home town of Derry was phenomenal. Referring to my previous post regarding meeting James McClean, I gave him a copy of Don Mullan's book Gordon Banks - A Hero Who Could Fly. It's a story of a young Catholic boy who lived through the troubles (in Derry)and how the then England goalkeeper Gordon Banks inspired him. James McClean was incredibly grateful to receive the book, showing great humility actually. I would recommend that any Stokies who haven't yet read this beautiful story do so, it's enlightening. Particularly perhaps, those chanting anti IRA rhetoric. I recall Huddersfield away when we put 5 past them. James was superb that day. During a break in play, he was waiting to take a corner or a free kick right by the Huddersfield fans who abused him in the most disgusting manner I've ever seen. He stood tall and faced them, something no footballer, no person should have to do but he did it and I admire him greatly for it. I approached a police officer and pointed out that he was being racially abused. Sadly and not surprisingly it fell on deaf ears. However, the vociferous response from the Stokies in the away end that day brought me out in goose bumps as the chant Super James McClean rang out loud and proud. Thanks for the tip, anchorman. I've just ordered the book. JM is someone I would be interested to meet.
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Post by tpholloway1 on Nov 4, 2022 19:28:41 GMT
I completely agree with you Malcolm. He was one of my favourite players too from that particular team, he was fearless, committed, played with real heart & desire and never gave anything less than 100%. His generosity both in North Staffs and his home town of Derry was phenomenal. Referring to my previous post regarding meeting James McClean, I gave him a copy of Don Mullan's book Gordon Banks - A Hero Who Could Fly. It's a story of a young Catholic boy who lived through the troubles (in Derry)and how the then England goalkeeper Gordon Banks inspired him. James McClean was incredibly grateful to receive the book, showing great humility actually. I would recommend that any Stokies who haven't yet read this beautiful story do so, it's enlightening. Particularly perhaps, those chanting anti IRA rhetoric. I recall Huddersfield away when we put 5 past them. James was superb that day. During a break in play, he was waiting to take a corner or a free kick right by the Huddersfield fans who abused him in the most disgusting manner I've ever seen. He stood tall and faced them, something no footballer, no person should have to do but he did it and I admire him greatly for it. I approached a police officer and pointed out that he was being racially abused. Sadly and not surprisingly it fell on deaf ears. However, the vociferous response from the Stokies in the away end that day brought me out in goose bumps as the chant Super James McClean rang out loud and proud. Thanks for the tip, anchorman. I've just ordered the book. JM is someone I would be interested to meet. A very interesting and well written book, I'm sure you'll enjoy it Malcolm.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2022 21:05:00 GMT
Thanks for the tip, anchorman. I've just ordered the book. JM is someone I would be interested to meet. A very interesting and well written book, I'm sure you'll enjoy it Malcolm. Met him many times, he's a great lad. We were sort of neighbours and ate in the same place regularly.
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Post by anchorman on Nov 4, 2022 21:48:16 GMT
I completely agree with you Malcolm. He was one of my favourite players too from that particular team, he was fearless, committed, played with real heart & desire and never gave anything less than 100%. His generosity both in North Staffs and his home town of Derry was phenomenal. Referring to my previous post regarding meeting James McClean, I gave him a copy of Don Mullan's book Gordon Banks - A Hero Who Could Fly. It's a story of a young Catholic boy who lived through the troubles (in Derry)and how the then England goalkeeper Gordon Banks inspired him. James McClean was incredibly grateful to receive the book, showing great humility actually. I would recommend that any Stokies who haven't yet read this beautiful story do so, it's enlightening. Particularly perhaps, those chanting anti IRA rhetoric. I recall Huddersfield away when we put 5 past them. James was superb that day. During a break in play, he was waiting to take a corner or a free kick right by the Huddersfield fans who abused him in the most disgusting manner I've ever seen. He stood tall and faced them, something no footballer, no person should have to do but he did it and I admire him greatly for it. I approached a police officer and pointed out that he was being racially abused. Sadly and not surprisingly it fell on deaf ears. However, the vociferous response from the Stokies in the away end that day brought me out in goose bumps as the chant Super James McClean rang out loud and proud. Thanks for the tip, anchorman. I've just ordered the book. JM is someone I would be interested to meet. You’re very welcome Malcolm. Off the pitch James is the complete opposite to how he is on it. He’s very quiet and unassuming. Don Mullan is a very interesting guy too & he was the inspiration behind the Gordon Banks statue. If it wasn’t for Don it probably wouldn’t have happened. I’ll book a table for four if that’s Malcolm and invite James & Don….make it 5 and we’ll get TC there too. Now that would be very interesting!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 4, 2022 21:58:07 GMT
We clearly don't agree, but all I will say is that the number of games he played in the PL shows that various professional coaches and managers didn't agree with your assessment that he was "fucking shit" at that level. That is no barometer Graham Taylor thought Carlton Palmer was a good player and Gary Rowett thought he was worth £6m
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Post by liathroid on Nov 4, 2022 22:39:12 GMT
That is no barometer Graham Taylor thought Carlton Palmer was a good player and Gary Rowett thought he was worth £6m played 102 times , also we forked out 48 million on 3 players that played 94 times between them
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Post by banksisgod on Nov 5, 2022 0:23:31 GMT
I have known Don Mullan for many years, and when his Gordon Banks books was having a launch in Dublin , he invited me along. I got to meet the great man, and Terry Conroy too! That was about fifteen years ago.
Earlier this year, I published the Twenty-Fifth Anniversary edition of Don's seminal "Eyewitness Bloody Sunday", the original edition of which precipitated the Saville Inquiry (or Bloody Sunday Tribunal). Incidentally, my publishing imprint is called Red Stripe Press (three guesses where that came from).
If you want to know where James McClean's political views come from, it's all in Don's book. (This isn't a "sales pitch", by the way!)
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Post by durbanscircus on Nov 5, 2022 11:43:47 GMT
I have known Don Mullan for many years, and when his Gordon Banks books was having a launch in Dublin , he invited me along. I got to meet the great man, and Terry Conroy too! That was about fifteen years ago. Earlier this year, I published the Twenty-Fifth Anniversary edition of Don's seminal "Eyewitness Bloody Sunday", the original edition of which precipitated the Saville Inquiry (or Bloody Sunday Tribunal). Incidentally, my publishing imprint is called Red Stripe Press (three guesses where that came from). If you want to know where James McClean's political views come from, it's all in Don's book. (This isn't a "sales pitch", by the way!) Thanks for this Post and the contribution of Anchorman and Malcolm I too like and respect James McClean for all the reasons stated. I am also the son of an Irish Catholic immigrant and experienced significant anti Irish Racism growing up in an extended Irish Family in Stoke in the 1970s. Today I celebrate 50 years of watching Stoke in a repeat of the initial fixture v Blues on the 19th November 1972 , I rarely miss a game home or away and care deeply for the club, the area and its people. I mention this context because it helps understand what I say next. I was deeply ashamed and offended by the the behaviour of a section of our support at Wigan, who were abusing James and foaming at the mouth chanting about the IRA. Many (but not all) were not even born when the Belfast agreement was signed. They know nothing of anglo-irish history but their anger and hatred was real. I looked into the faces of these young men and saw a future for the city which is disturbing and nasty if its not curtailed I would like to think the club could make something positive out of all this and maybe celebrate the contribution Irish players and fans have made to the club over the decades.Maybe we should make ourselves more visible, I dont know the answer to such ingrained bitterness and hatred but I do know your collective posts have really cheered me up as I go out on the lash to celebrate my 50 years support, reassured and reminded that the majority of our support is thoroughly decent
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2022 13:22:04 GMT
I have known Don Mullan for many years, and when his Gordon Banks books was having a launch in Dublin , he invited me along. I got to meet the great man, and Terry Conroy too! That was about fifteen years ago. Earlier this year, I published the Twenty-Fifth Anniversary edition of Don's seminal "Eyewitness Bloody Sunday", the original edition of which precipitated the Saville Inquiry (or Bloody Sunday Tribunal). Incidentally, my publishing imprint is called Red Stripe Press (three guesses where that came from). If you want to know where James McClean's political views come from, it's all in Don's book. (This isn't a "sales pitch", by the way!) Thanks for this Post and the contribution of Anchorman and Malcolm I too like and respect James McClean for all the reasons stated. I am also the son of an Irish Catholic immigrant and experienced significant anti Irish Racism growing up in an extended Irish Family in Stoke in the 1970s. Today I celebrate 50 years of watching Stoke in a repeat of the initial fixture v Blues on the 19th November 1972 , I rarely miss a game home or away and care deeply for the club, the area and its people. I mention this context because it helps understand what I say next. I was deeply ashamed and offended by the the behaviour of a section of our support at Wigan, who were abusing James and foaming at the mouth chanting about the IRA. Many (but not all) were not even born when the Belfast agreement was signed. They know nothing of anglo-irish history but their anger and hatred was real. I looked into the faces of these young men and saw a future for the city which is disturbing and nasty if its not curtailed I would like to think the club could make something positive out of all this and maybe celebrate the contribution Irish players and fans have made to the club over the decades.Maybe we should make ourselves more visible, I dont know the answer to such ingrained bitterness and hatred but I do know your collective posts have really cheered me up as I go out on the lash to celebrate my 50 years support, reassured and reminded that the majority of our support is thoroughly decent Every club has morons who love to join in. I doubt many had a clue why they were booing or could spell IRA Like I said, some have a weird obsession with him, behind their keyboards of course . We had one on here, forget his name but embarrassed himself wildly, not for the first time, about what he'd do etc if he ever met him . I think we all know what would really happen and would involve him needing new underwear
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 5, 2022 13:55:52 GMT
With McClean you get what we can all see.
Lacking technical skills, super fit, and gives 110%.
He is not Premier League standard, nor is he Championship promotion standard, but he only just below that and worth his place in a middle of the table side.
If a striker had popped in a couple of his crosses Wednesday night, Wigan would be mid table and we would be in the relegation zone.
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 5, 2022 14:35:41 GMT
Thanks for this Post and the contribution of Anchorman and Malcolm I too like and respect James McClean for all the reasons stated. I am also the son of an Irish Catholic immigrant and experienced significant anti Irish Racism growing up in an extended Irish Family in Stoke in the 1970s. Today I celebrate 50 years of watching Stoke in a repeat of the initial fixture v Blues on the 19th November 1972 , I rarely miss a game home or away and care deeply for the club, the area and its people. I mention this context because it helps understand what I say next. I was deeply ashamed and offended by the the behaviour of a section of our support at Wigan, who were abusing James and foaming at the mouth chanting about the IRA. Many (but not all) were not even born when the Belfast agreement was signed. They know nothing of anglo-irish history but their anger and hatred was real. I looked into the faces of these young men and saw a future for the city which is disturbing and nasty if its not curtailed I would like to think the club could make something positive out of all this and maybe celebrate the contribution Irish players and fans have made to the club over the decades.Maybe we should make ourselves more visible, I dont know the answer to such ingrained bitterness and hatred but I do know your collective posts have really cheered me up as I go out on the lash to celebrate my 50 years support, reassured and reminded that the majority of our support is thoroughly decent Every club has morons who love to join in. I doubt many had a clue why they were booing or could spell IRA Like I said, some have a weird obsession with him, behind their keyboards of course . We had one on here, forget his name but embarrassed himself wildly, not for the first time, about what he'd do etc if he ever met him . I think we all know what would really happen and would involve him needing new underwear I know why I was booing him. His antics when he was on the way out were abysmal. I actually admire his poppy stance - it's meaningless to just wear it if you don't believe in it. And in top of it all he's a shit footballer in my opinion.
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