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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 12, 2024 6:01:16 GMT
The spike in legal immigration is not down to ignorance - its deliberate government policy. The point about legal immigration is that the government is in control of the numbers. They have chosen to let in more people in order to prop up an aging indigenous workforce and they are doing this through cheaper non EU labour. Cheap non-EU labour was always part of the Brexit plan - the focus on illegal immigration is merely a distraction tactic. And Brexiteers would rather take the bait than admit they've been taken for fools. If anyone is genuinely interested in bringing down the numbers they really should be looking at government policy on legal immigration, not what they are doing about illegal immigration as it just the tip of the iceberg. The price there is the collapse of the university and care sector of the economy. Absolutely. Most on here complaining about immigration were brexiteers. Don’t they get that they voted for much higher numbers of immigrants coming to this country when they voted leave? They probably didn’t know at the time. But that’s because they had no clue what they were voting for, as I always have said. The Brexit vote was an unholy alliance of anti globalist little Englanders and unfettered free market globalists and it was the latter (i.e the likes of the Tory ERG) who have dictated post Brexit government policy - which includes the import of cheaper non-EU labour and the dismantling of workers rights. You can see the breakdown of the alliance in the defection of the Red Wall Tory vote to Reform UK.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 15, 2024 22:38:58 GMT
It's not a difficult concept to grasp ...
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Post by wannabee on May 16, 2024 0:52:26 GMT
It's not a difficult concept to grasp ... It's also a numbers game For those who want to make Money ) and a form of Modern Slavery or at least paid Indentured Servitude Using crude numbers say £12.50 an hour X 40 Hours = £500 then multiply by 3 for 24 Hour coverage = £1,500 Let's say that work group look after 5/6 Residents who pay £1000 per week = £5/6000 less food and other costs = Profit The Care Worker who has come to UK on a "Skills" Visa may with permission move to another Care Home to use their "Skills" but is not able to take up alternative employment, say as a Shelf Stacker at ALDI, for the same pay. In addition the Skilled Care Worker is no longer able to bring his/her dependants i.e husband/wife or children to UK The residents in care homes are too some extent the lucky ones as they have had assets to sell to pay the £50,000 p.a. fees or family to do so. There are about 400,000 people living in UK Care Homes. There are 860,000 people employed as Care workers so my 3:1 ratio is generous Some estimates put the number of unpaid Care Workers at 5,700,000 which is probably very underestimated but these are people who can't afford to pay the £50,000 p.a. fees so somehow juggle their workload to look after a relative, often working on zero hour contracts, quite possibly with ALDI while battling with DWP. If they fall foul of DWP they will then be pursued for any overpayments. It's a cracking system
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 23, 2024 9:02:01 GMT
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Post by musik on May 23, 2024 10:41:46 GMT
Will you take the Gaza people?
Today on the news up here they said Sweden will take 200 of the injured people from Gaza for medical treatment. EU demands us to do so. That's a bit weird, since Gaza is no part of EU and neither is Israel as far as I know?
Will you to, because EU says so?
Giving them treatment is ok. But just because EU says so??? Very confusing.
Why did I put it here? Well, it's not about medical care only of course. They will stay. And it's not uncontrolled migration. We have a number. Btw, does it matter if it's uncontrolled or controlled?
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Post by cvillestokie on May 23, 2024 11:14:46 GMT
Will you take the Gaza people? Today on the news up here they said Sweden will take 200 of the injured people from Gaza for medical treatment. EU demands us to do so. That's a bit weird, since Gaza is no part of EU and neither is Israel as far as I know? Will you to, because EU says so? Giving them treatment is ok. But just because EU says so??? Very confusing. Why did I put it here? Well, it's not about medical care only of course. They will stay. And it's not uncontrolled migration. We have a number. Btw, does it matter if it's uncontrolled or controlled? Any country that sells arms to Israel for use in destroying Gaza should accept a number of refugees proportional to the amount of the arms sales. Sweden doesn’t provide that much and 200 doesn’t seem to be that many. The vast majority should go to the US and then the vast majority of the remainder should go to Germany.
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Post by musik on May 23, 2024 11:34:54 GMT
Will you take the Gaza people? Today on the news up here they said Sweden will take 200 of the injured people from Gaza for medical treatment. EU demands us to do so. That's a bit weird, since Gaza is no part of EU and neither is Israel as far as I know? Will you to, because EU says so? Giving them treatment is ok. But just because EU says so??? Very confusing. Why did I put it here? Well, it's not about medical care only of course. They will stay. And it's not uncontrolled migration. We have a number. Btw, does it matter if it's uncontrolled or controlled? Any country that sells arms to Israel for use in destroying Gaza should accept a number of refugees proportional to the amount of the arms sales. Sweden doesn’t provide that much and 200 doesn’t seem to be that many. The vast majority should go to the US and then the vast majority of the remainder should go to Germany. The USA wasn't mentioned at all, probably since they're not part of EU.
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Post by cvillestokie on May 23, 2024 11:45:48 GMT
Any country that sells arms to Israel for use in destroying Gaza should accept a number of refugees proportional to the amount of the arms sales. Sweden doesn’t provide that much and 200 doesn’t seem to be that many. The vast majority should go to the US and then the vast majority of the remainder should go to Germany. The USA wasn't mentioned at all, probably since they're not part of EU. Well, the US like to live by their own laws. The EU doesn’t really have a chance of regulating them. It should be a global agreement though.
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Post by musik on May 23, 2024 12:21:43 GMT
The USA wasn't mentioned at all, probably since they're not part of EU. Well, the US like to live by their own laws. The EU doesn’t really have a chance of regulating them. It should be a global agreement though. It was the "EU demand Sweden to" I reacted to. I suppose EU doesn't demand England to do the same? I have no problem with helping the injured people. But we don't need EU to tell us.
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