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Post by banksy1art on Oct 25, 2022 19:39:54 GMT
Not bad! Seems like most clubs attendances have been dropping a lot quicker than ours.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 25, 2022 19:58:55 GMT
Not bad! Seems like most clubs attendances have been dropping a lot quicker than ours. How many of those 20262 have actually been there though. |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 25, 2022 20:02:55 GMT
Boro perhaps the most surprising there? Not exactly had much to shout about in recent years
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 25, 2022 20:05:12 GMT
Not bad! Seems like most clubs attendances have been dropping a lot quicker than ours. How many of those 20262 have actually been there though. Id say that was pretty accurate. Two thirds attendance basically, ten thousand empty seats is a lot and looks a lot in a 30k stadium |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 25, 2022 20:07:18 GMT
Boro perhaps the most surprising there? Not exactly had much to shout about in recent years Quite a bit bigger catchment area than us to be fair, probably around 20% bigger? So seems about right |
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Post by lordb on Oct 25, 2022 20:18:41 GMT
Not bad! Seems like most clubs attendances have been dropping a lot quicker than ours. How many of those 20262 have actually been there though. All of them, it's attended not tickets sold |
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Post by Gods on Oct 25, 2022 20:26:12 GMT
There's not much in it between 6th and 15th. We are only 2k above the average of 18.219
1 Sunderland 38.230
2 Sheffield United28.331
3 Norwich City 27.145
4 Middlesbrough FC24.669
5 West Bromwich Albion 22.063
6 Stoke City 20.536
7 Bristol City 19.797
8 Watford FC 19.305
9 Burnley FC 19.176
10 Coventry City 19.015
11 Huddersfield Town 18.718
12 Cardiff City 16.929
13 Hull City 16.826
14 Swansea City 16.574
15 Preston North End 16.470
16 Birmingham City 14.584
17 Queens Park Rangers 14.163
18 Blackpool FC 14.152
19 Millwall FC 13.896
20 Blackburn Rovers 13.402
21 Reading FC 13.202
22 Wigan Athletic 11.438
23 Rotherham United 10.229
24 Luton Town 9.737
Championship average 18.219
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 25, 2022 20:39:44 GMT
There's not much in it between 6th and 15th. We are only 2k above the average of 18.219 1 Sunderland 38.230 2 Sheffield United28.331 3 Norwich City 27.145 4 Middlesbrough FC24.669 5 West Bromwich Albion 22.063 6 Stoke City 20.536 7 Bristol City 19.797 8 Watford FC 19.305 9 Burnley FC 19.176 10 Coventry City 19.015 11 Huddersfield Town 18.718 12 Cardiff City 16.929 13 Hull City 16.826 14 Swansea City 16.574 15 Preston North End 16.470 16 Birmingham City 14.584 17 Queens Park Rangers 14.163 18 Blackpool FC 14.152 19 Millwall FC 13.896 20 Blackburn Rovers 13.402 21 Reading FC 13.202 22 Wigan Athletic 11.438 23 Rotherham United 10.229 24 Luton Town 9.737 Championship average 18.219 Ipswich had 28k against Derby last weekend and have taken 2k to Vale tonight for a Tuesday fixture in Burslem for a probable 10 hour round trip |
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Post by lordb on Oct 25, 2022 20:41:49 GMT
There's not much in it between 6th and 15th. We are only 2k above the average of 18.219 1 Sunderland 38.230 2 Sheffield United28.331 3 Norwich City 27.145 4 Middlesbrough FC24.669 5 West Bromwich Albion 22.063 6 Stoke City 20.536 7 Bristol City 19.797 8 Watford FC 19.305 9 Burnley FC 19.176 10 Coventry City 19.015 11 Huddersfield Town 18.718 12 Cardiff City 16.929 13 Hull City 16.826 14 Swansea City 16.574 15 Preston North End 16.470 16 Birmingham City 14.584 17 Queens Park Rangers 14.163 18 Blackpool FC 14.152 19 Millwall FC 13.896 20 Blackburn Rovers 13.402 21 Reading FC 13.202 22 Wigan Athletic 11.438 23 Rotherham United 10.229 24 Luton Town 9.737 Championship average 18.219 Ipswich had 28k against Derby last weekend and have taken 2k to Vale tonight for a Tuesday fixture in Burslem for a probable 10 hour round trip Small place too |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 25, 2022 20:46:39 GMT
Ipswich had 28k against Derby last weekend and have taken 2k to Vale tonight for a Tuesday fixture in Burslem for a probable 10 hour round trip Small place too They’re comfortable with where they are and have started supporting the club again. We are still in the depression period. Maybe we need to drop down again. God knows I bet it’s more entertaining |
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Post by lordb on Oct 25, 2022 20:48:53 GMT
They’re comfortable with where they are and have started supporting the club again. We are still in the depression period. Maybe we need to drop down again. God knows I bet it’s more entertaining No ta Stoke don't do yo yo Any relegation would result in a few miserable years |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 25, 2022 20:52:20 GMT
They’re comfortable with where they are and have started supporting the club again. We are still in the depression period. Maybe we need to drop down again. God knows I bet it’s more entertaining No ta Stoke don't do yo yo Any relegation would result in a few miserable years Ah we don’t want that do we. It’s just so stale |
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 25, 2022 20:56:41 GMT
They’re comfortable with where they are and have started supporting the club again. We are still in the depression period. Maybe we need to drop down again. God knows I bet it’s more entertaining Heard that before |
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Post by banksy1art on Oct 25, 2022 20:59:44 GMT
No ta Stoke don't do yo yo Any relegation would result in a few miserable years Ah we don’t want that do we. It’s just so stale we are lucky that our recent ‘low’ point is mid table in the championship. We haven’t done too bad, although it’s been a tough watch. |
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Post by Gods on Oct 25, 2022 21:03:37 GMT
There's not much in it between 6th and 15th. We are only 2k above the average of 18.219 1 Sunderland 38.230 2 Sheffield United28.331 3 Norwich City 27.145 4 Middlesbrough FC24.669 5 West Bromwich Albion 22.063 6 Stoke City 20.536 7 Bristol City 19.797 8 Watford FC 19.305 9 Burnley FC 19.176 10 Coventry City 19.015 11 Huddersfield Town 18.718 12 Cardiff City 16.929 13 Hull City 16.826 14 Swansea City 16.574 15 Preston North End 16.470 16 Birmingham City 14.584 17 Queens Park Rangers 14.163 18 Blackpool FC 14.152 19 Millwall FC 13.896 20 Blackburn Rovers 13.402 21 Reading FC 13.202 22 Wigan Athletic 11.438 23 Rotherham United 10.229 24 Luton Town 9.737 Championship average 18.219 Ipswich had 28k against Derby last weekend and have taken 2k to Vale tonight for a Tuesday fixture in Burslem for a probable 10 hour round trip These Division 3 clubs all averaging comfortably more than us 1 Derby County 27,376 2 Ipswich Town 25,628 3 Sheffield Wednesday 24,326 |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 25, 2022 21:05:13 GMT
Ipswich had 28k against Derby last weekend and have taken 2k to Vale tonight for a Tuesday fixture in Burslem for a probable 10 hour round trip These Division 3 clubs all averaging comfortably more than us 1 Derby County 27,376 2 Ipswich Town 25,628 3 Sheffield Wednesday 24,326 It must be the Vale away fans turning up en masse pushing those averages up😉 |
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Post by andyapotter on Oct 25, 2022 21:43:58 GMT
I’d have taken 6th at the start of the season tbf…🙄
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Post by gawa on Oct 25, 2022 22:07:36 GMT
Boro perhaps the most surprising there? Not exactly had much to shout about in recent years Boro are well supported with a passionate fan base and always have been. The North East love their football. Mackams, Geordies and Smoggys all have a great following. Had the 4th highest attendance in the championship last season too. |
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Post by RF10 on Oct 25, 2022 22:14:44 GMT
Wonder what the percentage of average attendance based on ground capacity?
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Post by potterpaul on Oct 25, 2022 23:18:04 GMT
Shame there isn't a column for average attendance.
Maybe we can petition the EFL
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 0:09:08 GMT
Boro perhaps the most surprising there? Not exactly had much to shout about in recent years Quite a bit bigger catchment area than us to be fair, probably around 20% bigger? So seems about right Depends how you judge it. Our conurbation is slightly bigger but it’s really splitting hairs, both close to 400k. There’s a Wikipedia page about metropolitan areas that has boro significantly larger (it includes Darlington/Hartlepool) but then on the stoke-on-Trent Wikipedia page it lists our metro area as far bigger than the aforementioned page. Close to 700k, and our metro area 17th instead of 20th. So I don’t know what the deal is? I’d say we’re very similar sized places. But mainly they don’t have a smelly neighbour in the same city siphoning off a few thousand would-be fans. |
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Post by lordb on Oct 26, 2022 6:04:05 GMT
No ta Stoke don't do yo yo Any relegation would result in a few miserable years Ah we don’t want that do we. It’s just so stale Stale league 1 is far worse than stale Championship yes |
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Post by lordb on Oct 26, 2022 6:07:31 GMT
Quite a bit bigger catchment area than us to be fair, probably around 20% bigger? So seems about right Depends how you judge it. Our conurbation is slightly bigger but it’s really splitting hairs, both close to 400k. There’s a Wikipedia page about metropolitan areas that has boro significantly larger (it includes Darlington/Hartlepool) but then on the stoke-on-Trent Wikipedia page it lists our metro area as far bigger than the aforementioned page. Close to 700k, and our metro area 17th instead of 20th. So I don’t know what the deal is? I’d say we’re very similar sized places. But mainly they don’t have a smelly neighbour in the same city siphoning off a few thousand would-be fans. N N Staffs, not including Stafford is about 450k How much of S Cheshire is part of our catchment area is hard to say 20k average for a side who hasn't had a good season since... 2016?...is very good If we have an actual promotion campaign crowds should be healthy |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 26, 2022 6:44:08 GMT
It felt really busy on Saturday compared to most other games since covid tbh.
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Post by Picasso on Oct 26, 2022 7:42:02 GMT
Ipswich had 28k against Derby last weekend and have taken 2k to Vale tonight for a Tuesday fixture in Burslem for a probable 10 hour round trip These Division 3 clubs all averaging comfortably more than us 1 Derby County 27,376 2 Ipswich Town 25,628 3 Sheffield Wednesday 24,326 Conversely, we average comfortably more than Premier League Bournemouth and Brentford. |
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Post by wuzza on Oct 26, 2022 8:10:41 GMT
I think a lot of this is down to season tickets sold which in turn reflects largely on the level of optimism within the clubs concerned, many of whom have a similar attendance record / potential.
A club like Boro for example probably were reasonably upbeat during the close season unlike ourselves where the general mood was ‘here we go again’.
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Post by masterpotter on Oct 26, 2022 8:31:44 GMT
I think key to this is that 40 miles up the road are Man Utd and city, 50 miles Liverpool and Everton. Once you move ten miles into Cheshire you’re not in Stoke territory anymore. Sunderland, Middlesbrough and Norwich don’t have this. Also, as stated, we do have two clubs in the city so vale probably do take 5 or 6 k off Stoke. West Brom appears good but an area the size of the West Midlands isn’t great really plus they still have the premier league hangers on. The only one really above us is sheff Utd which is good for a really good two city club.
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 26, 2022 9:12:51 GMT
I think key to this is that 40 miles up the road are Man Utd and city, 50 miles Liverpool and Everton. Once you move ten miles into Cheshire you’re not in Stoke territory anymore. Sunderland, Middlesbrough and Norwich don’t have this. Also, as stated, we do have two clubs in the city so vale probably do take 5 or 6 k off Stoke. West Brom appears good but an area the size of the West Midlands isn’t great really plus they still have the premier league hangers on. The only one really above us is sheff Utd which is good for a really good two city club. As impressive as Sheffield might be, it’s twice the size of Stoke |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Oct 26, 2022 9:19:34 GMT
I think key to this is that 40 miles up the road are Man Utd and city, 50 miles Liverpool and Everton. Once you move ten miles into Cheshire you’re not in Stoke territory anymore. Sunderland, Middlesbrough and Norwich don’t have this. Also, as stated, we do have two clubs in the city so vale probably do take 5 or 6 k off Stoke. West Brom appears good but an area the size of the West Midlands isn’t great really plus they still have the premier league hangers on. The only one really above us is sheff Utd which is good for a really good two city club. As impressive as Sheffield might be, it’s twice the size of Stoke They do have two rather biggish clubs though at the same time and both get good sized crowds. |
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 26, 2022 9:27:17 GMT
As impressive as Sheffield might be, it’s twice the size of Stoke They do have two rather biggish clubs though at the same time and both get good sized crowds. Stoke and Vale combined avg attendances for 2021 = 27,025 Sheff Utd and Wednesday combined avg attendances for 2021 = 50,081 Stoke on Trent population = 258,400 Sheffield population = 556,500 Stoke clubs avg attendance as a % of population = 10% Sheffield clubs avg attendance as a % of population = 9% It’s all relative. A massive city can support two big clubs. Comparatively, we’re doing fine. |
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