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Post by teenagefanclub on Oct 18, 2022 21:25:30 GMT
Thought we were really good tonight.
Heads never dropped
We showed excellent forward movement
A thousand times better than where we were
Powell and Brown back from injury
We move forward together
And the ref was shit
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Post by whatsashig on Oct 18, 2022 21:29:46 GMT
Totally agree, yer conna win em all , that’s a good way to loose if there is such a thing, certainly better than the last 4,5,6 years
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Post by willieeetmiout on Oct 18, 2022 21:30:45 GMT
Thought we weee really good tonight. Heads never dropped We showed excellent forward movement A thousand times better than where we were Powell and Brown back from injury We move forward together And the ref was shit First half I agree Thought we were really flat 2nd half.
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Post by chad on Oct 18, 2022 21:32:47 GMT
We lost but I enjoyed that more than a lot of the games we won under MON Dominated the game Good football Solid at the back We won’t lose many playing like that
Definitely going in the right direction
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 18, 2022 21:35:08 GMT
We did play well but it’s just a bit systematic of us isn’t it?
Charity result - check
Missed loads of chances - check
And it’s not like our strikers are free scoring. The top scoring striker has 2/3? A poacher we’ve paid a fortune for doesn’t look like he’ll score.
That’s a worry.
But you’ve got to hope it will come because as you say we did play well bar that critical moment.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 18, 2022 21:36:03 GMT
Yeah just hope our heads don’t go down as Saturday is another banana skin waiting to happen.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Oct 18, 2022 21:38:59 GMT
Whilst I accept that it's de ja vulnerable all over again isn't it?
Every time we get a bit of momentum we fuck it. Every time there's a bit of good feeling we fuck it.
Tonight we roll the ball back from kick off and kick it straight into the crowd ... here we go again everyone thinks.
We get the ball back, play it out to Sterling who let's it go under his foot. Deffo here we go again everyone thinks.
That leads the needless pressure and a corner where Jags has to go off because of treatment. Everyone in the ground knew what was coming. We'd only played 5 minutes
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Post by GrahamHyde on Oct 18, 2022 21:44:17 GMT
Whilst I accept that it's de ja vulnerable all over again isn't it? Every time we get a bit of momentum we fuck it. Every time there's a bit of good feeling we fuck it. Tonight we roll the ball back from kick off and kick it straight into the crowd ... here we go again everyone thinks. We get the ball back, play it out to Sterling who let's it go under his foot. Deffo here we go again everyone thinks. That leads the needless pressure and a corner where Jags has to go off because of treatment. Everyone in the ground knew what was coming. We'd only played 5 minutes Yep, it did have an air of inevitability about it at the time.
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Post by theonlooker on Oct 18, 2022 21:50:59 GMT
29 shots, 12 on target to their 4 shots, 1 on target.
That's what is commonly known in the Football Manager community as being "FM'd"
Christ alive!
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Post by backintheday on Oct 18, 2022 21:51:13 GMT
Thought we weee really good tonight. Heads never dropped We showed excellent forward movement A thousand times better than where we were Powell and Brown back from injury We move forward together And the ref was shit First half I agree Thought we were really flat 2nd half. Agree but give Rotherham some credit they stuck to a simple game plan especially in the second half. not enough guile to break them down.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Oct 18, 2022 22:21:30 GMT
Delap and Gayle don’t look like they’ll score though. Delap’s scored a tap in. It’s not good enough.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 18, 2022 22:30:56 GMT
First half I agree Thought we were really flat 2nd half. Agree but give Rotherham some credit they stuck to a simple game plan especially in the second half. not enough guile to break them down. Do what? We had enough clear cut chances to win 4 games. We broke them down virtually every time we attacked. What we didn't have was any composure (or luck) in front of goal. Delap and Campbell could have had 2 hat tricks each. And I'm not sure what Rotherham's game plan was but unless it was 'let Stoke have the ball they'll never score in a month of Sundays' then it definitely didn't work.
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Post by Goonie on Oct 19, 2022 6:40:12 GMT
Last night reminded me of my youth playing Sunday league.
We played the runaway top of the league team, had a bloke 5' 6" in goal for most of the game, defended all game whether with the wind or against, they countless shots, hit the woodwork at least 6 times and couldn't score. We had 3 attempts all game and won 3-0. They all left the field shaking their heads!
Another night we'd of won 6-0
Football eh?
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Post by Goonie on Oct 19, 2022 6:41:41 GMT
Agree but give Rotherham some credit they stuck to a simple game plan especially in the second half. not enough guile to break them down. Do what? We had enough clear cut chances to win 4 games. We broke them down virtually every time we attacked. What we didn't have was any composure (or luck) in front of goal. Delap and Campbell could have had 2 hat tricks each. And I'm not sure what Rotherham's game plan was but unless it was 'let Stoke have the ball they'll never score in a month of Sundays' then it definitely didn't work. Nail on head For all Delap and Campbell's potential a confident and experienced striker would have had a party last night. An observation more than a criticism of 2 talented youngsters. On the commentary Pejic bemoaned our decision making from the off
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 19, 2022 6:45:53 GMT
Do what? We had enough clear cut chances to win 4 games. We broke them down virtually every time we attacked. What we didn't have was any composure (or luck) in front of goal. Delap and Campbell could have had 2 hat tricks each. And I'm not sure what Rotherham's game plan was but unless it was 'let Stoke have the ball they'll never score in a month of Sundays' then it definitely didn't work. Nail on head For all Delap and Campbell's potential a confident and experienced striker would have had a party last night. An observation more than a criticism of 2 talented youngsters. On the commentary Pejic bemoaned our decision making from the off Like Dwight Gayle. Oh…..
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 19, 2022 6:49:20 GMT
20-odd shots, 12 on target, but the only one to draw a good save was the one from the corner in injury time. Every other shot was a routine save straight at him, most from distance.
We created plenty, we just made poor final decisions and our finishing was off. It happens. I’d be more worried if we were putting in MON style performances and not creating anything. A win at the weekend still gives us a great return from 4 games.
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 19, 2022 6:49:33 GMT
We did play well but it’s just a bit systematic of us isn’t it? Charity result - check Missed loads of chances - check And it’s not like our strikers are free scoring. The top scoring striker has 2/3? A poacher we’ve paid a fortune for doesn’t look like he’ll score. That’s a worry. But you’ve got to hope it will come because as you say we did play well bar that critical moment. The only thing Neil got wrong last night was putting said poacher at no.10, we don't want Gayle picking the ball up on the half way line ffs. He showed what he could do saturday when played up front, was madness tonight to then drop him back to the 10 role. With Smallbone out, we should've started with Thompson and pushed Baker further forwards or started DWP in the 10 role behind Gayle. Too many of our moves break down because Delap can't trap a bag of cement, or he stands and lets the ball roll past him. The lad despite having some great attributes, just doesn't warrant starting currently.
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 19, 2022 6:50:48 GMT
Nail on head For all Delap and Campbell's potential a confident and experienced striker would have had a party last night. An observation more than a criticism of 2 talented youngsters. On the commentary Pejic bemoaned our decision making from the off Like Dwight Gayle. Oh….. Was played 20 yards deeper than he should've been.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 19, 2022 6:52:00 GMT
We did play well but it’s just a bit systematic of us isn’t it? Charity result - check Missed loads of chances - check And it’s not like our strikers are free scoring. The top scoring striker has 2/3? A poacher we’ve paid a fortune for doesn’t look like he’ll score. That’s a worry. But you’ve got to hope it will come because as you say we did play well bar that critical moment. The only thing Neil got wrong last night was putting said poacher at no.10, we don't want Gayle picking the ball up on the half way line ffs. He showed what he could do saturday when played up front, was madness tonight to then drop him back to the 10 role. With Smallbone out, we should've started with Thompson and pushed Baker further forwards or started DWP in the 10 role behind Gayle. Too many of our moves break down because Delap can't trap a bag of cement, or he stands and lets the ball roll past him. The lad despite having some great attributes, just doesn't warrant starting currently. I thought he was toss in both games but yeah it was pretty clear after about 10 minutes he needed to be pushed up even with what we had on the pitch. I just don’t think he’s added anything to this team.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 19, 2022 6:52:22 GMT
Was played 20 yards deeper than he should've been. He shouldn’t be playing at all. He’s garbage.
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Post by Gods on Oct 19, 2022 7:01:57 GMT
We did play well but it’s just a bit systematic of us isn’t it? Charity result - check Missed loads of chances - check And it’s not like our strikers are free scoring. The top scoring striker has 2/3? A poacher we’ve paid a fortune for doesn’t look like he’ll score. That’s a worry. But you’ve got to hope it will come because as you say we did play well bar that critical moment. The only thing Neil got wrong last night was putting said poacher at no.10, we don't want Gayle picking the ball up on the half way line ffs. He showed what he could do saturday when played up front, was madness tonight to then drop him back to the 10 role. With Smallbone out, we should've started with Thompson and pushed Baker further forwards or started DWP in the 10 role behind Gayle. Too many of our moves break down because Delap can't trap a bag of cement, or he stands and lets the ball roll past him. The lad despite having some great attributes, just doesn't warrant starting currently. Blimey, if Delap can't trap a bag of cement it doesn't bode well for us or his Man City career!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 19, 2022 7:04:36 GMT
Thought we weee really good tonight. Heads never dropped We showed excellent forward movement A thousand times better than where we were Powell and Brown back from injury We move forward together And the ref was shit First half I agree Thought we were really flat 2nd half. Me too however I think a lot of that was down to constant feigned injuries, subs and time wasting at throw ins without any action from the ref. The keeper was particularly guilty and was keeping the ball on multiple occasions for well over 10 seconds. For that reason we never really got going. I’d be interested to know how much the ball was actually in play second half. Rotherham did their job well and defended well but were allowed to get away with a hell of a lot so they pushed things to the limit. Thought the ref was very poor and not for the first time after Huddersfield last year.
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 19, 2022 7:05:47 GMT
Was played 20 yards deeper than he should've been. He shouldn’t be playing at all. He’s garbage. Don't agree at all, Saturday his run and cross set's up the goal for Smallbone. Last night again, plays an excellent ball on his left foot to create a goalscoring opportunity we should've done better with. He's got a couple more assists too, as well as goal wrongly ruled out and some excellent saves from keepers. With a bit more luck he'd be sat on 5 goals and 5 assists this season. As it stands he's our most effective central striker, Fosu & Campbell wide of him is our strongest attack right now imho.
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Post by LGH87 on Oct 19, 2022 7:08:00 GMT
The only thing Neil got wrong last night was putting said poacher at no.10, we don't want Gayle picking the ball up on the half way line ffs. He showed what he could do saturday when played up front, was madness tonight to then drop him back to the 10 role. With Smallbone out, we should've started with Thompson and pushed Baker further forwards or started DWP in the 10 role behind Gayle. Too many of our moves break down because Delap can't trap a bag of cement, or he stands and lets the ball roll past him. The lad despite having some great attributes, just doesn't warrant starting currently. Blimey, if Delap can't trap a bag of cement it doesn't bode well for us or his Man City career! He's extremely frustrating, shows glimpses of his quality but spends a lot of the game with the ball bouncing off him, rolling under him or him just not reaching it. It's becoming quite clear he was somewhat of a flat track bully at youth level and is currently struggling to make the step up. He's 19 and it's his first proper season in senior football, so it's to be expected really but as it stands he should be on the bench for me. He'll probably go on to score 250 Premier League goals though, just look at Kane's loans at Leicester & Norwich
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 19, 2022 7:11:24 GMT
He shouldn’t be playing at all. He’s garbage. Don't agree at all, Saturday his run and cross set's up the goal for Smallbone. Last night again, plays an excellent ball on his left foot to create a goalscoring opportunity we should've done better with. He's got a couple more assists too, as well as goal wrongly ruled out and some excellent saves from keepers. With a bit more luck he'd be sat on 5 goals and 5 assists this season. As it stands he's our most effective central striker, Fosu & Campbell wide of him is our strongest attack right now imho. I can’t agree sorry. He dodders around like an old man and just looks past it. He adds nothing to it and it wasn’t bad luck he hasn’t got any goals. He’s lost his pace and it shows. Last night he might as well not been on the pitch. A lot of that was the managers fault but then he went deeper and deeper which he didn’t have to do.
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Post by nottsover60 on Oct 19, 2022 8:26:52 GMT
29 shots, 12 on target to their 4 shots, 1 on target. That's what is commonly known in the Football Manager community as being "FM'd" Christ alive! How many of those shots ever looked like going in? I would argue one, Powell's header right at the end was the only one that needed a good save. Well though we played we never worked the gk or had their defence panicking. Shots on target can be misleading if they are like 11 of our 12 straight at the gk with no swerve or velocity. Shots off target can be more dangerous than most of our shots on target last night. Much though I enjoyed the game it really lacked any jump off your seat, we nearly scored then moments. More the sit back and relax, enjoy the spectacle but I don't expect us to score even if the referee adds on the amount of time he should have done. Very tame in the penalty area, almost as if they'd been told just get shots on target whenever you can.
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 19, 2022 8:39:47 GMT
Don't agree at all, Saturday his run and cross set's up the goal for Smallbone. Last night again, plays an excellent ball on his left foot to create a goalscoring opportunity we should've done better with. He's got a couple more assists too, as well as goal wrongly ruled out and some excellent saves from keepers. With a bit more luck he'd be sat on 5 goals and 5 assists this season. As it stands he's our most effective central striker, Fosu & Campbell wide of him is our strongest attack right now imho. I can’t agree sorry. He dodders around like an old man and just looks past it. He adds nothing to it and it wasn’t bad luck he hasn’t got any goals. He’s lost his pace and it shows. Last night he might as well not been on the pitch. A lot of that was the managers fault but then he went deeper and deeper which he didn’t have to do. Can’t agree with this Bayern. He’s like a little wasp, buzzing around irritating the opposition. He certainly doesn’t look past it to me. He has a quality touch and I think he does add to the team, just not in the way intended. He’s started to look a bit desperate in front of goal, he badly needs to bag a few so he relaxes a bit more.
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Post by nottsover60 on Oct 19, 2022 9:08:36 GMT
First half I agree Thought we were really flat 2nd half. Agree but give Rotherham some credit they stuck to a simple game plan especially in the second half. not enough guile to break them down. Exactly but they were helped massively by scoring in the first five minutes with such a lucky goal when our defensive organiser and best defender was off the pitch. That changed the dynamics of the game. We were chasing instead of building intelligently so started to make the wrong decisions. They meanwhile had more than they expected to have to hold onto so could defend calmly as even conceding one still left them with the point they were hoping for.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 19, 2022 9:20:51 GMT
We've swapped a bloke who scored double figures for two who can't hit a cow's arse with a banjo.
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Post by jhtstokie on Oct 19, 2022 9:29:10 GMT
We could still be playing now and we still wouldn’t have scored. Not a performance that I’m worried about at all, just too many shots straight at the keeper, although he did pull off 1 or 2 great saves. Thompson also put a couple of cracking balls in late on which nobody gambled on in the box.
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