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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 2, 2022 11:34:18 GMT
Our last 21 games (before today) when conceding first we have...
Won - 0
Drawn - 6
Lost - 15
Thats a disgraceful stat
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2022 11:37:45 GMT
We've pretty much got every disgraceful stat going covered over the last 5 years to be fair, so that one comes as no surprise.
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Post by stokiemac on Oct 2, 2022 11:41:23 GMT
Stats don't always tell the full story...they do this time though
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 2, 2022 11:54:34 GMT
Add one to the loss column.
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 2, 2022 11:55:01 GMT
Add one to the loss column. Looks that way doesn't it |
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Post by slother on Oct 2, 2022 12:02:50 GMT
No goal threat and no danger of keeping a clean sheet. Not a great look, is it?
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 2, 2022 12:06:12 GMT
No goal threat and no danger of keeping a clean sheet. Not a great look, is it? To add to it, before today, Watford had won once in 9 away from home and conceded only 1 clean sheet in their last 11 games |
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 2, 2022 12:58:25 GMT
Watford's first away win of the season... First clean sheet of the season...
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Post by wuzza on Oct 2, 2022 13:00:30 GMT
We are in a special period of our history - never has such a well funded side been so abysmal (consistently) .
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 2, 2022 13:27:27 GMT
Watford's first away win of the season... First clean sheet of the season... Didn’t realise they hadn’t kept a clean sheet, I’d have bet on that as well. Got Davis, Sarr and the Watford win.  |
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 2, 2022 13:33:44 GMT
Our last 21 games (before today) when conceding first we have... Won - 0 Drawn - 6 Lost - 15 Thats a disgraceful stat We look doomed when that happens!  |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 2, 2022 13:36:47 GMT
Our last 21 games (before today) when conceding first we have... Won - 0 Drawn - 6 Lost - 15 Thats a disgraceful stat We have trouble winning when we go 1 up FFS. |
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Post by thevoid on Oct 2, 2022 13:57:54 GMT
Given the resources thrown at the team, I would say pound for pound we are worse than the Brian Little and Alan Ball eras.
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Post by scfcwebby on Oct 2, 2022 14:42:21 GMT
Given the resources thrown at the team, I would say pound for pound we are worse than the Brian Little and Alan Ball eras. I said on P&G, today was as bad as anything we've seen since we came down... Maybe longer |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 2, 2022 14:55:54 GMT
Surely that comes down to the desire in the players?After the 2nd went in today we saw the mentality of this bunch in the last half hour
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Post by a on Oct 2, 2022 14:56:56 GMT
Watford's first away win of the season... First clean sheet of the season... Didn’t realise they hadn’t kept a clean sheet, I’d have bet on that as well. Got Davis, Sarr and the Watford win. Uhoh you’ll be castigated for betting against us 😳 |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 2, 2022 15:01:45 GMT
Didn’t realise they hadn’t kept a clean sheet, I’d have bet on that as well. Got Davis, Sarr and the Watford win. Uhoh you’ll be castigated for betting against us 😳 Wouldn’t be the first time! |
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Post by independent on Oct 3, 2022 14:02:48 GMT
Given the resources thrown at the team, I would say pound for pound we are worse than the Brian Little and Alan Ball eras. what resources are you talking about. I'd say our side cost buttons. Who did we spend on? |
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Post by theonlooker on Oct 3, 2022 14:23:29 GMT
That's an absolutely disgraceful stat. Gutless personified.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 3, 2022 16:11:45 GMT
Given the resources thrown at the team, I would say pound for pound we are worse than the Brian Little and Alan Ball eras. what resources are you talking about. I'd say our side cost buttons. Who did we spend on? I was referring to the overall money spent since relegation, I probably didn't make that clear. |
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Post by thevoid on Oct 3, 2022 16:14:17 GMT
That's an absolutely disgraceful stat. Gutless personified. Add to that our record in London and the last time we scored a last minute/injury time winner was the Christmas before COVID. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 3, 2022 16:14:53 GMT
Our last 21 games (before today) when conceding first we have... Won - 0 Drawn - 6 Lost - 15 Thats a disgraceful stat For context, how does it compare to the rest of the teams in the division? |
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Post by lordb on Oct 3, 2022 16:24:36 GMT
what resources are you talking about. I'd say our side cost buttons. Who did we spend on? I was referring to the overall money spent since relegation, I probably didn't make that clear. most of that money spent (very badly primarily by Rowett) has since left the club though Ball actually was given pretty decent money to spend relative to the market at the time £250k each on Ellis & Kennedy > good money that fees for Blake Sandford & Kevan+Barnes too some of those players ended up being good signings once Macari got hold of them Littles signings we're horrific but he had buttons to be fair |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 3, 2022 18:09:57 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Oct 3, 2022 19:46:16 GMT
As I consider further up, this damning statistic looks a little worse than it’s mirror (our record when we score first) but not spectacularly so, indicating that most teams we play who concede first to us, lose. It just shows what we all know to be true in this league, the first goal matters. The standard is crap, you go out and score then try not to make an error. Other teams are crap and don’t “carve you open”, so you end up either knicking another one or hanging on more often than not. It seems that we are slightly less good at holding the lead and less good at regaining it. This isn’t exactly shocking news given where we have finished over the years. |
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Post by palerider on Oct 3, 2022 20:07:21 GMT
Concede first we’re fucked,score first marginally less fucked,overall summary we’re fucked
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Post by Gods on Oct 3, 2022 20:29:13 GMT
Who did we come from behind to beat? Must have been quite a day! |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 3, 2022 20:31:25 GMT
Who did we come from behind to beat? Must have been quite a day! Huddersfield? |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 3, 2022 20:38:34 GMT
It would seem we have too many players who lack any bottle.
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Post by robstokie on Oct 3, 2022 22:58:19 GMT
Who did we come from behind to beat? Must have been quite a day! Huddersfield? Even then it was a comedy own goal, albeit from a killer ball from Mario Vrancic that turned out to be the winner We are beyond gutless, the way they just gave up yesterday was frightening - theres a good 4 or 5 I don't want to see in a Stoke shirt again, and what makes it worse is that some of these mercenaries are keeping our kids out of the side - eg. Fox over Taylor, Fosu over DWP. |
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