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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 4, 2022 13:15:56 GMT
It wasn't that bad. It's the same old issue that mistakes are costing us. It was pretty fucking bad mate. Not 4/10 bad for every player. The effort was there, but the quality wasn't. A draw would've been a fair result.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 4, 2022 13:19:24 GMT
It was pretty fucking bad mate. Not 4/10 bad for every player. The effort was there, but the quality wasn't. A draw would've been a fair result. What would you say were the positives? We created almost nothing, second half we were consistently second best. They were a poor side but looked the more dangerous throughout.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 4, 2022 13:20:24 GMT
Not 4/10 bad for every player. The effort was there, but the quality wasn't. A draw would've been a fair result. What would you say were the positives? We created almost nothing, second half we were consistently second best. They were a poor side but looked the more dangerous throughout. The only positive could be a 3 match ban for Clucas….
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 4, 2022 13:20:39 GMT
It was pretty fucking bad mate. Not 4/10 bad for every player. The effort was there, but the quality wasn't. A draw would've been a fair result. Amazing what you’ve seen in that game to be positive about🤔
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Post by xchpotter on Sept 4, 2022 13:28:53 GMT
They play with no fear of repercussions. All far too comfortable at cosy Stoke City. I hope Neil is able to sort them out.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 4, 2022 13:33:52 GMT
Not 4/10 bad for every player. The effort was there, but the quality wasn't. A draw would've been a fair result. What would you say were the positives? We created almost nothing, second half we were consistently second best. They were a poor side but looked the more dangerous throughout. There weren't many positives. I thought we were the better team in the first half and played okay but without any creativity. We were far too slow with the ball. Powell on the pitch sooner than I expected was the only real positive. Campbell looked decent. Without the stupid mistakes the game probably would've been more open, and we would have created more. Injuries are killing us again too - with Clarke, Laurent and Tymon in that side, we would've been a lot better.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 4, 2022 13:34:36 GMT
What would you say were the positives? We created almost nothing, second half we were consistently second best. They were a poor side but looked the more dangerous throughout. There weren't many positives. I thought we were the better team in the first half and played okay but without any creativity. We were far too slow with the ball. Powell on the pitch sooner than I expected was the only real positive. Campbell looked decent. Without the stupid mistakes the game probably would've been more open, and we would have created more. Injuries are killing us again too - with Clarke, Laurent and Tymon in that side, we would've been a lot better. Campbell looked decent 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 4, 2022 13:34:39 GMT
Not 4/10 bad for every player. The effort was there, but the quality wasn't. A draw would've been a fair result. Amazing what you’ve seen in that game to be positive about🤔 I didn't mention anything about being positive, but see above.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 4, 2022 13:35:46 GMT
What would you say were the positives? We created almost nothing, second half we were consistently second best. They were a poor side but looked the more dangerous throughout. There weren't many positives. I thought we were the better team in the first half and played okay but without any creativity. We were far too slow with the ball. Powell on the pitch sooner than I expected was the only real positive. Campbell looked decent. Without the stupid mistakes the game probably would've been more open, and we would have created more. Injuries are killing us again too - with Clarke, Laurent and Tymon in that side, we would've been a lot better. The set up was bad too though, it accentuated those problems. It was a total mess. First half I thought it was fairly even, we had more of the ball and they looked more dangerous when they countered.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 4, 2022 13:53:55 GMT
There weren't many positives. I thought we were the better team in the first half and played okay but without any creativity. We were far too slow with the ball. Powell on the pitch sooner than I expected was the only real positive. Campbell looked decent. Without the stupid mistakes the game probably would've been more open, and we would have created more. Injuries are killing us again too - with Clarke, Laurent and Tymon in that side, we would've been a lot better. The set up was bad too though, it accentuated those problems. It was a total mess. First half I thought it was fairly even, we had more of the ball and they looked more dangerous when they countered. In fairness to the manager it must be a real kick in the balls when you put all your prep in only to go one down after 90 seconds due to incompetence, and I thought we slowly pulled ourselves back into the game without ever threatening too much. The second half was a head scratcher though, the lack of intensity was there for all to see and we resorted to aimless crosses into the box to no one in particular…….
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 4, 2022 13:55:14 GMT
The set up was bad too though, it accentuated those problems. It was a total mess. First half I thought it was fairly even, we had more of the ball and they looked more dangerous when they countered. In fairness to the manager it must be a real kick in the balls when you put all your prep in only to go one down after 90 seconds due to incompetence, and I thought we slowly pulled ourselves back into the game without ever threatening too much. The second half was a head scratcher though, the lack of intensity was there for all to see and we resorted to aimless crosses into the box to no one in particular……. Could understand them being rattled by that unfathomable brainfart early doors certainly. Agree the second half was considerably worse.
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 4, 2022 13:57:26 GMT
Reading are second in the league. We've outplayed them marginally at their place, but our concentration is an abomination. If we can sort that out we could have a good season, if we dont its going to be a painful one. We outplayed them? We had more possession but we really didn’t outplay them.
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Post by sticky on Sept 4, 2022 13:58:05 GMT
We create next to nothing and the defence is shambolic, a worrying mix
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 4, 2022 14:00:23 GMT
Are they really that unfit or just not very good?. We can seem to pass a ball accurately with any pace on it.. Your 2nd question.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 4, 2022 14:58:05 GMT
Are they really that unfit or just not very good?. We can't seem to pass a ball accurately with any pace on it..It's absolute beggars belief. A total embarrassment. We collectively dither on the ball as if we have Parkinson's. It's so hard to watch. The money invested for the return is unfathomable.
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Post by ceejays on Sept 5, 2022 8:27:17 GMT
What the fuck was that I’ve just endured? Raced home from work to see 1 nil down in first 10 mins?!? Somebody on here summed it up by referencing benny hill! What was the thinking by the starting 11??? Somebody needs to smuggle a pyro into the ground to shove up smallbone’s (smalling!?! 🙄) arse cos he’s got the talent but he’s a bit of a wetter atm! Baker not been the same since getting the captaincy. Aden flint, Aden fucking flint! If he goes for a piss at the services on the way home let’s hope the bus leaves without him cos he is piss fucking poor and not worthy of a start over Connor Taylor imo. Well less you’ve not noticed our last two goals were Flint assisted . He was one of the best if not the best versus Swansea. Ok today he was complicit in the first goal but the main blame was with Bonham . As for Taylor he’s dreadfully slow . Had a mare versus Swansea . Of course he can develop. There is a player in him . But atm Flint is better option by far
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Post by stokest5 on Sept 5, 2022 8:30:53 GMT
deserve more than 4 out of 10 Shambolic performance with no cutting edge and a total lack of fitness.WTF did we do in pre season🙄 Massive job for Alex Neil and he desperately needs the injured players back ASAP I would give Fosu 5. But no, that was as shit as I've seen. Replace Oniel with Niel and I see no difference. This team is a mess I thought that was Fosu’s worst game for us yesterday.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 5, 2022 8:40:32 GMT
Reading are second in the league. We've outplayed them marginally at their place, but our concentration is an abomination. If we can sort that out we could have a good season, if we dont its going to be a painful one. Would you care to explain how we outplayed them even marginally. Possibly could be said of the first half but I can't think of one even short good passage of play we had in the second half when we even threatened to trouble them.
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Post by Caddick988 on Sept 5, 2022 8:54:41 GMT
Yep, it's certainly hard to say anyone stood out today. To slow with and without the ball. Only remember 1 bit of play whereby we turned the ball over quickly in midfield and got Smallbone away down the right to square it to Tyrese which was intercepted and put out for a corner. Other than that it was way to slow.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Sept 5, 2022 8:57:55 GMT
We create next to nothing and the defence is shambolic, a worrying mix The defence is shambolic for a couple of reasons. It's far too slow to play what appears to be the favoured formation(maybe they think we're too invested in WB's for it not to be). We literally have one CB who is mobile and we're commiting him up the pitch a lot the others are sit deep head it and kick it out merchants. When playing a WB system our centre midfield is nowhere near combative enough. Maybe less would be more in terms of players being dedicated to creating attacking and goal scoring that aren't a critical part of your defensive foundation, which as far as I could see yesterday consisted of Flint, Fox, Baker.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 5, 2022 8:59:35 GMT
Not 4/10 bad for every player. The effort was there, but the quality wasn't. A draw would've been a fair result. Amazing what you’ve seen in that game to be positive about🤔 The reality is we basically gave 2 goals away. They were complete gifts and apart from that they were hardly any threat. However poor we performed we really could have won that game or at least drawn it and I wonder how different the reaction would have been.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Sept 5, 2022 9:02:44 GMT
Amazing what you’ve seen in that game to be positive about🤔 The reality is we basically gave 2 goals away. They were complete gifts and apart from that they were hardly any threat. However poor we performed we really could have won that game or at least drawn it and I wonder how different the reaction would have been. Apart from that stupid mix up at the back that led to their first we didn't even look like the away side in the first half. Massive over reaction.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 5, 2022 9:21:52 GMT
It wasn't that bad. It's the same old issue that mistakes are costing us. It was pretty fucking bad mate. Maybe they keep making mistakes every week because they ain't very good, so will keep making them.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 5, 2022 9:31:42 GMT
Amazing what you’ve seen in that game to be positive about🤔 The reality is we basically gave 2 goals away. They were complete gifts and apart from that they were hardly any threat. However poor we performed we really could have won that game or at least drawn it and I wonder how different the reaction would have been. I agree to an extent mate but Long also missed a sitter.They were happy(like many other teams) for us to have the ball and they either counter or just sit behind the ball in a block and be comfortable because we had no threat in my opinion
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 5, 2022 9:42:45 GMT
I'm not sure if it's lack of fitness or lack of interest for some of them.
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Post by citynickscfc on Sept 5, 2022 9:47:13 GMT
I'm not sure if it's lack of fitness or lack of interest for some of them. "Ambition"....
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Post by matelot1996 on Sept 5, 2022 10:32:31 GMT
The theory that there is ‘quality’ in this squad waiting to burst forth has really been shown for what it is today. It’s similar to trying to get a Georgeous woman to sleep with you. The exterior appearance gets your heart racing. The anticipation and Adrenalin is palpable. You eventually win her over and get to undress her and carry her to the bedroom. The act itself is a massive let down, she lies stationary for 2 mins and you are done in 90 seconds after losing the ability to penetrate. That’s how I feel about Stoke 😂😂😂
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 5, 2022 10:37:19 GMT
I would give Fosu 5. But no, that was as shit as I've seen. Replace Oniel with Niel and I see no difference. This team is a mess Fosu was as toss as the rest, maybe only Clucas, Bonham and Fox worse than him Strange list given Clucas wasn't even the worst of the midfielders.
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Post by J-Roar on Sept 5, 2022 10:41:25 GMT
It wasn't that bad. It's the same old issue that mistakes are costing us. Really?We had some good possession but no threat whatsoever Possession without purpose. I'm fed up of watching players piss about with it to up the possession stats. It's a security blanket that means absolutely nothing. These players can't think quickly enough. When runs are made they don't see them. If they do see them they can't make the pass. So it just goes back for safety or pointlessly long. The last 3 managers haven't appreciated this and just ploughed on thinking the players will just come good. If Alex doesn't realise this quickly we are properly fucked.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2022 10:52:00 GMT
We are just weak , mentally , physically and any other way it is possible to be. Just horrible and completely bloody depressing. I am reading Jonny bairstow's autobiography...he's watching the Yorkshire first team training with 12 year old Joe root " At 12 years old Joe sat unobtrusively , watching Anthony McGrath face a session of short pitched bowling.The ball was chucked at him hard and fast from less than half a pitch length. When it was over Joe asked the coach to repeat the exactly the same procedure for him .At one point a bouncer clipped the grill of his helmet. He didn't care .He wasn't flustered." George Hirst a club legend, who coached len Hutton, watched on for 5 minutes as Root sanded out the imperfections in his shots and said " there is nowt we can teach this guy " and walked off . It's the attitude we need, but we don't seem to see it on match day.
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