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Post by knype on Nov 30, 2022 20:31:02 GMT
The loony left will defend it! What is the "loony left" knype? And why would they defend child sex abuse? Pretty obvious what the loony left are. It'll be the same people who defend men identifying as women and taking part in women's sport, housed in women's prisons and sharing changing rooms with women and girls
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Post by metalhead on Nov 30, 2022 20:36:47 GMT
The loony left will defend it! What is the "loony left" knype? And why would they defend child sex abuse? I suspect nobody is going to defend child sex abuse. The question is whether we should continue to put kids at risk because we're too afraid to deal with the Trans lobby who are eroding the safety of British women and children? JK Rowling will be remembered as a Feminist hero.
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Post by wannabee on Nov 30, 2022 23:08:52 GMT
Transphobia and Cissexism generally stems from ignorence and personal insecurity
The condition isn't easily overcome because the person suffering the condition is not usually open to learning facts
Gender dysphoria is NOT a Mental Illness but it can lead to Mental Issues. Some with the condition want to use Hormones and/or Surgery others do not.
Similar incorrect Tropes of Paedophilia were used in the debate leading to legalisation of Gay Sexual Rights although there was no evidence then or now. Transphobes are likely also to be Homophobic.
Trans people are six times more likely to be Physically or Sexualy Assaulted
Conversely Trans Men who identify as Women are six times more likely than a Natal Women to commit a Violent Assault
I accept there are some Social Issues to overcome but there are hardly insurmountable Some that have been raised.on this thread
Toilets: More and more public toilets I go to in restaurants or shopping centres etc are communal and if not what's the problem there is no evidence to suggest that Trans people become Trans to become Sexual Predators
Prisons: There is empirical evidence that "Straight" Long Term Male Prisoners become "Relaxed" about their sexuality while incarcerated Whats all the fuss about a Trans person being incarcerated in a Female Prison
Sport: I agree that a person that identifies as a Female but was born a Natal Male should not be allowed to compete Professionally in Female Sports. As someone once said "Thems the Breaks"
Like most Social Evolution we will look back in years to come and ask what all the fuss was about
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Post by metalhead on Nov 30, 2022 23:31:54 GMT
Transphobia and Cissexism generally stems from ignorence and personal insecurity The condition isn't easily overcome because the person suffering the condition is not usually open to learning facts Gender dysphoria is NOT a Mental Illness but it can lead to Mental Issues. Some with the condition want to use Hormones and/or Surgery others do not. Similar incorrect Tropes of Paedophilia were used in the debate leading to legalisation of Gay Sexual Rights although there was no evidence then or now. Transphobes are likely also to be Homophobic. Trans people are six times more likely to be Physically or Sexualy Assaulted Conversely Trans Men who identify as Women are six times more likely than a Natal Women to commit a Violent Assault I accept there are some Social Issues to overcome but there are hardly insurmountable Some that have been raised.on this thread Toilets: More and more public toilets I go to in restaurants or shopping centres etc are communal and if not what's the problem there is no evidence to suggest that Trans people become Trans to become Sexual Predators Prisons: There is empirical evidence that "Straight" Long Term Male Prisoners become "Relaxed" about their sexuality while incarcerated Whats all the fuss about a Trans person being incarcerated in a Female Prison Sport: I agree that a person that identifies as a Female but was born a Natal Male should not be allowed to compete Professionally in Female Sports. As someone once said "Thems the Breaks" Like most Social Evolution we will look back in years to come and ask what all the fuss was about Ok. Do you think that a woman who previously identified as a man and transitioned just two weeks earlier and retains their birth genitals should be allowed in women's changing rooms?
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Post by wannabee on Dec 1, 2022 0:40:35 GMT
Transphobia and Cissexism generally stems from ignorence and personal insecurity The condition isn't easily overcome because the person suffering the condition is not usually open to learning facts Gender dysphoria is NOT a Mental Illness but it can lead to Mental Issues. Some with the condition want to use Hormones and/or Surgery others do not. Similar incorrect Tropes of Paedophilia were used in the debate leading to legalisation of Gay Sexual Rights although there was no evidence then or now. Transphobes are likely also to be Homophobic. Trans people are six times more likely to be Physically or Sexualy Assaulted Conversely Trans Men who identify as Women are six times more likely than a Natal Women to commit a Violent Assault I accept there are some Social Issues to overcome but there are hardly insurmountable Some that have been raised.on this thread Toilets: More and more public toilets I go to in restaurants or shopping centres etc are communal and if not what's the problem there is no evidence to suggest that Trans people become Trans to become Sexual Predators Prisons: There is empirical evidence that "Straight" Long Term Male Prisoners become "Relaxed" about their sexuality while incarcerated Whats all the fuss about a Trans person being incarcerated in a Female Prison Sport: I agree that a person that identifies as a Female but was born a Natal Male should not be allowed to compete Professionally in Female Sports. As someone once said "Thems the Breaks" Like most Social Evolution we will look back in years to come and ask what all the fuss was about Ok. Do you think that a woman who previously identified as a man and transitioned just two weeks earlier and retains their birth genitals should be allowed in women's changing rooms? Sex is assigned at Birth based on visable sexual organs. Rare but surprisingly not that uncommon some babies at birth display anatomy of both sexes. Doctors usually in consultation with Parents make a determination often with surgery to assign Male or Female Sex. Gender of which there are at least 7 begins to form from about 4 years of age The type of person you are describing is more likely to be a sexual predator and again most likely to have displayed those tendencies much earlier. A truly Trans person doesn't suddenly have a Damascus moment What is the setting of the changing room you mention? The retention or otherwise of Genetalia is not relevant but more applicable to the mental and physical wishes of a Genuine Trans Person I think you are Leaning towards the Trope I mentioned before that was Popular in the Gay Rights debate that Gay people were Paedophiles which has now become Trans people are Sexual Predators it is an ignorent viewpoint There are Sexual Predators of course and indeed some are Gay and some are Trans but the vast majority are "Straight" but may exploit ambiguity
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Post by sticky on Dec 1, 2022 7:41:31 GMT
Transphobia and Cissexism generally stems from ignorence and personal insecurity The condition isn't easily overcome because the person suffering the condition is not usually open to learning facts Gender dysphoria is NOT a Mental Illness but it can lead to Mental Issues. Some with the condition want to use Hormones and/or Surgery others do not. Similar incorrect Tropes of Paedophilia were used in the debate leading to legalisation of Gay Sexual Rights although there was no evidence then or now. Transphobes are likely also to be Homophobic. Trans people are six times more likely to be Physically or Sexualy Assaulted Conversely Trans Men who identify as Women are six times more likely than a Natal Women to commit a Violent Assault I accept there are some Social Issues to overcome but there are hardly insurmountable Some that have been raised.on this thread Toilets: More and more public toilets I go to in restaurants or shopping centres etc are communal and if not what's the problem there is no evidence to suggest that Trans people become Trans to become Sexual Predators Prisons: There is empirical evidence that "Straight" Long Term Male Prisoners become "Relaxed" about their sexuality while incarcerated Whats all the fuss about a Trans person being incarcerated in a Female Prison Sport: I agree that a person that identifies as a Female but was born a Natal Male should not be allowed to compete Professionally in Female Sports. As someone once said "Thems the Breaks" Like most Social Evolution we will look back in years to come and ask what all the fuss was about Ok. Do you think that a woman who previously identified as a man and transitioned just two weeks earlier and retains their birth genitals should be allowed in women's changing rooms? No (why people can’t just answer a question is beyond me🙄)
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Post by noustie on Dec 1, 2022 9:24:41 GMT
Riddle me this: Why are we looking to make application for a gender recognition certificate about as difficult as joining Tony The Tiger’s Secret Agent Club negating need of medical assessment because it is too stressful whereas kids were being fast-tracked into life altering pharmaceutical and medical intervention? How is it possible for adults to keep their sexy bits but be content with a bit of paper whereas kids must have the right of medical intervention with increased weakening of the agency of parent involved? Either the adults are taking the piss or the kids are being mutilated without due cause – can’t have it both ways surely?
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Post by thevoid on Dec 1, 2022 10:32:49 GMT
Ok. Do you think that a woman who previously identified as a man and transitioned just two weeks earlier and retains their birth genitals should be allowed in women's changing rooms? No (why people can’t just answer a question is beyond me🙄) Cisgender/Cissexism 🤦 There has to be daft nomenclature, buzzwords and labels for everything these days. The main reason the notion of cis exists is because it's un-PC to describe oneself as 'normal'.
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 1, 2022 10:52:06 GMT
This is a woman.......... !
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Post by noustie on Dec 1, 2022 12:10:25 GMT
This is a list of the 72 other genders - I only got through the first 8 before my mind began to melt: www.medicinenet.com/what_are_the_72_other_genders/article.htmAgender: A person who does not identify themselves with or experience any gender. Agender people are also called null-gender, genderless, gendervoid, or neutral gender. Abimegender: Associated with being profound, deep, and infinite. The term abimegender may be used alone or in combination with other genders. Adamas gender: A gender that is indefinable or indomitable. People identifying with this gender refuse to be categorized in any particular gender identity. Aerogender: Also called evaisgender, this gender identity changes according to one’s surroundings. Aesthetigender: Also called aesthetgender, it is a type of gender identity derived from aesthetics. Affectugender: This is based on the person’s mood swings or fluctuations. Agenderflux: A person with this gender identity is mostly agender with brief shifts of belonging to other gender types. Alexigender: The person has a fluid gender identity between more than one type of gender although they cannot name the genders they feel fluid in.
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 1, 2022 12:35:23 GMT
This is a list of the 72 other genders - I only got through the first 8 before my mind began to melt: www.medicinenet.com/what_are_the_72_other_genders/article.htmAgender: A person who does not identify themselves with or experience any gender. Agender people are also called null-gender, genderless, gendervoid, or neutral gender. Abimegender: Associated with being profound, deep, and infinite. The term abimegender may be used alone or in combination with other genders. Adamas gender: A gender that is indefinable or indomitable. People identifying with this gender refuse to be categorized in any particular gender identity. Aerogender: Also called evaisgender, this gender identity changes according to one’s surroundings. Aesthetigender: Also called aesthetgender, it is a type of gender identity derived from aesthetics. Affectugender: This is based on the person’s mood swings or fluctuations. Agenderflux: A person with this gender identity is mostly agender with brief shifts of belonging to other gender types. Alexigender: The person has a fluid gender identity between more than one type of gender although they cannot name the genders they feel fluid in. Its madness isnt it....thats got to be the biggest load of bollocks compiled in the history of bollocks compiling. Utterly utterly ridiculous.
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Post by noustie on Dec 1, 2022 12:55:14 GMT
This is a list of the 72 other genders - I only got through the first 8 before my mind began to melt: www.medicinenet.com/what_are_the_72_other_genders/article.htmAgender: A person who does not identify themselves with or experience any gender. Agender people are also called null-gender, genderless, gendervoid, or neutral gender. Abimegender: Associated with being profound, deep, and infinite. The term abimegender may be used alone or in combination with other genders. Adamas gender: A gender that is indefinable or indomitable. People identifying with this gender refuse to be categorized in any particular gender identity. Aerogender: Also called evaisgender, this gender identity changes according to one’s surroundings. Aesthetigender: Also called aesthetgender, it is a type of gender identity derived from aesthetics. Affectugender: This is based on the person’s mood swings or fluctuations. Agenderflux: A person with this gender identity is mostly agender with brief shifts of belonging to other gender types. Alexigender: The person has a fluid gender identity between more than one type of gender although they cannot name the genders they feel fluid in. Its madness isnt it....thats got to be the biggest load of bollocks compiled in the history of bollocks compiling. Utterly utterly ridiculous. I'm bored - pick a number and we can play gender bingo from 9-72.
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Post by wannabee on Dec 1, 2022 12:56:15 GMT
Ok. Do you think that a woman who previously identified as a man and transitioned just two weeks earlier and retains their birth genitals should be allowed in women's changing rooms? No (why people can’t just answer a question is beyond me🙄) Have you stopped beating your wife? Just answer the question Yes or No it's a simple question
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Post by thevoid on Dec 1, 2022 12:56:44 GMT
This is a list of the 72 other genders - I only got through the first 8 before my mind began to melt: www.medicinenet.com/what_are_the_72_other_genders/article.htmAgender: A person who does not identify themselves with or experience any gender. Agender people are also called null-gender, genderless, gendervoid, or neutral gender. Abimegender: Associated with being profound, deep, and infinite. The term abimegender may be used alone or in combination with other genders. Adamas gender: A gender that is indefinable or indomitable. People identifying with this gender refuse to be categorized in any particular gender identity. Aerogender: Also called evaisgender, this gender identity changes according to one’s surroundings. Aesthetigender: Also called aesthetgender, it is a type of gender identity derived from aesthetics. Affectugender: This is based on the person’s mood swings or fluctuations. Agenderflux: A person with this gender identity is mostly agender with brief shifts of belonging to other gender types. Alexigender: The person has a fluid gender identity between more than one type of gender although they cannot name the genders they feel fluid in. I think I'm Aerogender but I only really like the regular flavour. Not sure about the mint ones (Questioning) and the orange ones are right out. So I'll say that I'm CisaerogenderQ
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Post by thevoid on Dec 1, 2022 12:59:24 GMT
No (why people can’t just answer a question is beyond me🙄) Have you stopped beating your wife? Just answer the question Yes or No it's a simple question What's with the wife comment please?
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Post by wannabee on Dec 1, 2022 13:02:01 GMT
Have you stopped beating your wife? Just answer the question Yes or No it's a simple question What's with the wife comment please? Work it out It's not that difficult
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Post by thevoid on Dec 1, 2022 13:03:24 GMT
What's with the wife comment please? Work it out It's not that difficult No, explain what you meant rather than speaking in riddles, you oddball.
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Post by wannabee on Dec 1, 2022 13:30:19 GMT
Work it out It's not that difficult No, explain what you meant rather than speaking in riddles, you oddball. It is not my responsibility to compensate for your lack of intelligence
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 1, 2022 13:33:55 GMT
A bloke is born with a knob A woman is born with a fanny End of
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Post by sticky on Dec 1, 2022 13:38:41 GMT
No (why people can’t just answer a question is beyond me🙄) Have you stopped beating your wife? Just answer the question Yes or No it's a simple question You were asked a straight forward question and as always you fail to answer it. And as for that reply, well It just sums you up really
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Post by thevoid on Dec 1, 2022 13:39:50 GMT
No, explain what you meant rather than speaking in riddles, you oddball. It is not my responsibility to compensate for your lack of intelligence Here we go, another wannabee dig at someone's intelligence despite knowing nothing about them, how very progressive. Well done on spelling 'intelligence' correctly this time though 🙂 Go on, indulge my feeble mind- what was meant by your comment please? If you had a genuine point you should be champing at the bit to explain it. Last chance before it's reported.
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Post by sticky on Dec 1, 2022 13:40:59 GMT
Work it out It's not that difficult No, explain what you meant rather than speaking in riddles, you oddball. he knows nothing about be mate, a bad example to use imo, comes across he’s implying I’m a wife beater for some bizarre reason🤦🏻♂️very strange man (person)👀😂
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Post by wannabee on Dec 1, 2022 13:45:55 GMT
It is not my responsibility to compensate for your lack of intelligence Here we go, another wannabee dig at someone's intelligence despite knowing nothing about them, how very progressive. Well done on spelling 'intelligence' correctly this time though 🙂 Go on, indulge my feeble mind- what was meant by your comment please? If you had a genuine point you should be champing at the bit to explain it. Last chance before it's reported. Why would you report a post you've just liked? Very strange
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Post by thevoid on Dec 1, 2022 13:47:42 GMT
No, explain what you meant rather than speaking in riddles, you oddball. he knows nothing about be mate, a bad example to use imo, comes across he’s implying I’m a wife beater for some bizarre reason🤦🏻♂️very strange man (person)👀😂 It's not the first time bizarre allegations such as this have emanated from left wing posters on here for no apparent reason- a few months ago we had 'yeswilko' making an unsavoury comment to Cobham about having his computer checked. Insult one of them though, and they suddenly go all uppity about name calling!
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Post by sticky on Dec 1, 2022 13:55:16 GMT
he knows nothing about be mate, a bad example to use imo, comes across he’s implying I’m a wife beater for some bizarre reason🤦🏻♂️very strange man (person)👀😂 It's not the first time bizarre allegations such as this have emanated from left wing posters on here for no apparent reason- a few months ago we had 'yeswilko' making an unsavoury comment to Cobham about having his computer checked. Insult one of them though, and they suddenly go all uppity about name calling! Funny you’ve mentioned him, was just thinking there’s 2 on this board who I normally completely ignore their posts (nothing to do with politics/beliefs etc) they just come across as utter bellends.. anyway I don’t want him accusing me of being a ❄️ so let him have his fun. Let the thread continue..👍🏻
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Post by thevoid on Dec 1, 2022 13:56:07 GMT
Here we go, another wannabee dig at someone's intelligence despite knowing nothing about them, how very progressive. Well done on spelling 'intelligence' correctly this time though 🙂 Go on, indulge my feeble mind- what was meant by your comment please? If you had a genuine point you should be champing at the bit to explain it. Last chance before it's reported. Why would you report a post you've just liked? Very strange I didn't like the post we're talking about, Mr Intelligence. I liked the one where you refused to answer the question and resorted to the usual- and predictable- misguided wannabee arrogance and non sequiturs. Anyway, the post has been reported now and the reason for doing so is that using domestic violence as a cheap and unnecessary dig is beyond the pale. My wife was physically and mentally abused by a former partner and it still affects her. Give your head a wobble.
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Post by wannabee on Dec 1, 2022 14:01:00 GMT
Have you stopped beating your wife? Just answer the question Yes or No it's a simple question You were asked a straight forward question and as always you fail to answer it. And as for that reply, well It just sums you up really As you asked the original question I will give you a more comprehensive reply than to the ignoramus who butted in I gave, in my opinion, a comprehensive answer to your question towards the top of the page on this page. If you don't understand my answer, or don't, agree with it that's perfectly fine, but this complex question cannot be answered by a simple yes or no. People have become accustomed to Reality Shows or Facebook or Twitter where it's sufficient to press a button or show your like or dislike without using critical analysis of their own "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Is a Classic example of a Complex/Loaded question which no matter how you answer it will be incriminating www.thoughtco.com/complex-question-fallacy-1689890
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Post by wannabee on Dec 1, 2022 14:08:12 GMT
Why would you report a post you've just liked? Very strange I didn't like the post we're talking about, Mr Intelligence. I liked the one where you refused to answer the question and resorted to the usual- and predictable- misguided wannabee arrogance and non sequiturs. Anyway, the post has been reported now and the reason for doing so is that using domestic violence as a cheap and unnecessary dig is beyond the pale. My wife was physically and mentally abused by a former partner and it still affects her. Give your head a wobble. I sympathise with you wife and anyone else woman or man who finds themselves in this distressing situation, but if I were you I'd give up showing your lack of intelligence
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Post by thevoid on Dec 1, 2022 14:11:46 GMT
I didn't like the post we're talking about, Mr Intelligence. I liked the one where you refused to answer the question and resorted to the usual- and predictable- misguided wannabee arrogance and non sequiturs. Anyway, the post has been reported now and the reason for doing so is that using domestic violence as a cheap and unnecessary dig is beyond the pale. My wife was physically and mentally abused by a former partner and it still affects her. Give your head a wobble. I sympathise with you wife and anyone else woman or man who finds themselves in this distressing situation, but if I were you I'd give up showing your lack of intelligence It's 'your wife' not 'you wife', chief 🙂 You really are a special case aren't you? I'll just echo what you said to metalhead on another thread (yesterday?) and say that I'm out of this quite frankly ridiculous discussion.
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 1, 2022 14:26:11 GMT
Its madness isnt it....thats got to be the biggest load of bollocks compiled in the history of bollocks compiling. Utterly utterly ridiculous. I'm bored - pick a number and we can play gender bingo from 9-72. 56- my age ( some say my IQ as well)
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