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Post by andystokey on Sept 3, 2022 9:47:18 GMT
My question is, how does anyone know what a Man or a Women feels like ? Good question! 🤠 To some extent the answer lies in the answer to this question: Are you attracted to women or men? Sexuality has nothing to do with gender. When a baby is born the doctor doesn't hand to the parents a heterosexual/queer child based on its organs. Sexual attraction has nothing whatsoever to do with physical attributes.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 3, 2022 9:51:11 GMT
A woman is an annoying human being with a fanny
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Post by Goonie on Sept 3, 2022 9:56:02 GMT
I have no objection to anyone identifying as whatever gender, sexuality, ethnicity, nationality etc
What I do object to is turning it into a political issue, especially when we live in a society that has never been more transparent, never been as inclusive, never has been more willing to strive for equality.
It's by no means perfect, but this is the UK not the Isis caliphate
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 3, 2022 9:57:42 GMT
You will always find examples of pretty much anything from everywhere. There are culutrs or tribes that still practice cannibalism as well. There are cultures where shagging kids is normal. A few isolated examples throughout history that have no doubt been twisted and taken out of context aren't good examples of how we should be. I'd never deny these people their rights or mistreat them and I genuinely don't care what they do . My issue is when people that don't agree with it get 'cancelled' and it's pushed and encouraged in schools . Leave the kids alone
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Post by Goonie on Sept 3, 2022 9:57:44 GMT
A woman is an annoying human being with a fanny My wife would agree, but I wish she wouldn't call me a fanny
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Post by musik on Sept 3, 2022 10:00:44 GMT
Good question! 🤠 To some extent the answer lies in the answer to this question: Are you attracted to women or men? Sexuality has nothing to do with gender. When a baby is born the doctor doesn't hand to the parents a heterosexual/queer child based on its organs. Sexual attraction has nothing whatsoever to do with physical attributes. Not a baby no, it develops in time. A person A's sexual attraction depends on person B's physical attributes.
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Post by andystokey on Sept 3, 2022 10:03:50 GMT
You will always find examples of pretty much anything from everywhere. There are culutrs or tribes that still practice cannibalism as well. There are cultures where shagging kids is normal. A few isolated examples throughout history that have no doubt been twisted and taken out of context aren't good examples of how we should be. I'd never deny these people their rights or mistreat them and I genuinely don't care what they do . My issue is when people that don't agree with it get 'cancelled' and it's pushed and encouraged in schools . Leave the kids alone You don't think it is possible that children are born non binary in the same way children are born with different sexuality?
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Post by andystokey on Sept 3, 2022 10:07:03 GMT
Sexuality has nothing to do with gender. When a baby is born the doctor doesn't hand to the parents a heterosexual/queer child based on its organs. Sexual attraction has nothing whatsoever to do with physical attributes. Not a baby no, it develops in time. A person A's sexual attraction depends on person B's physical attributes. Does it? Either way it is an irrelevant Venn diagram to say gender and sexuality have any overlap where gender or sexuality can be calculated based on the value of only one.
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 3, 2022 10:37:08 GMT
It's called nature Einstein. It's called ignorance, doofus!
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 3, 2022 10:47:39 GMT
You will always find examples of pretty much anything from everywhere. There are culutrs or tribes that still practice cannibalism as well. There are cultures where shagging kids is normal. A few isolated examples throughout history that have no doubt been twisted and taken out of context aren't good examples of how we should be. I'd never deny these people their rights or mistreat them and I genuinely don't care what they do . My issue is when people that don't agree with it get 'cancelled' and it's pushed and encouraged in schools . Leave the kids alone You don't think it is possible that children are born non binary in the same way children are born with different sexuality? I think a tiny small minority might possibly have some form of gender confusion that might possibly be a result of some hormone imbalance and more power to them. I hope and wish them individuals nothing but well
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Post by musik on Sept 3, 2022 10:59:02 GMT
What about this?
In Swedish schools pupils have learned the reason less people are heterosexuals now is because a larger part of the female population are working now compared to 70 years ago.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 3, 2022 11:04:23 GMT
If a 57 year old white man tells you he's really a 16 year old black woman, he'll get called crazy for claiming he's an age he isn't, a racist for claiming he's a colour he isn't, but you'll all go along with him being a woman 'cos it's currently the 'correct' opinion to hold & it lets you play the good guy.
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Post by musik on Sept 3, 2022 11:05:52 GMT
Not a baby no, it develops in time. A person A's sexual attraction depends on person B's physical attributes. Does it? Either way it is an irrelevant Venn diagram to say gender and sexuality have any overlap where gender or sexuality can be calculated based on the value of only one. What's your point with a Venn diagram, Andy?
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Post by musik on Sept 3, 2022 11:07:09 GMT
If a 57 year old white man tells you he's really a 16 year old black woman, he'll get called crazy for claiming he's an age he isn't, a racist for claiming he's a colour he isn't, but you'll all go along with him being a woman 'cos it's currently the 'correct' opinion to hold & it lets you play the good guy. And poor bastard if he'd said he's white. That's even beyond racist. 😉
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 3, 2022 11:23:06 GMT
Fuck me.
Some people really have got too much time on their hands.
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Post by noustie on Sept 3, 2022 12:12:11 GMT
I'm a fat middle aged bloke with eyes as squint as my teeth but self identify as a stunningly attractive and brave female - none of the heterosexuals on here would shag me (well maybe apart from Badger) because I'm a bloke but a good chunk hypocritically are willing to play along normalising this with women, lesbians especially, and kids having to deal with some wild shit.
A bloke who identifies as a women but is keen on keeping their penis presumably for nostalgic purposes is for the watching not the affirming.
And why are blokes allowed keep their cocks and call themselves Desirae yet kids who don't fit gender stereotypes, normally with autism/or mental health issues, were going through the Tavistock Gender abattoir at a frightening rate?
I wanted to be a pirate at 8 but fortunately my parents didn't chop my leg off, remove an eye and buy me a parrot.
I can see the Emperor with his pidge out.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 3, 2022 12:18:49 GMT
I'm a fat middle aged bloke with eyes as squint as my teeth but self identify as a stunningly attractive and brave female - none of the heterosexuals on here would shag me (well maybe apart from Badger) because I'm a bloke but a good chunk hypocritically are willing to play along normalising this with women, lesbians especially, and kids having to deal with some wild shit. A bloke who identifies as a women but is keen on keeping their penis presumably for nostalgic purposes is for the watching not the affirming. And why are blokes allowed keep their cocks and call themselves Desirae yet kids who don't fit gender stereotypes, normally with dyslexia and/or mental health issues, were going through the Tavistock Gender abattoir at a frightening rate? I wanted to be a pirate at 8 but fortunately my parents didn't chop my leg off, remove an eye and buy me a parrot. I can see the Emperor with his pidge out. I wouldn’t kick you out of bed😉
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 3, 2022 12:21:18 GMT
If a 57 year old white man tells you he's really a 16 year old black woman, he'll get called crazy for claiming he's an age he isn't, a racist for claiming he's a colour he isn't, but you'll all go along with him being a woman 'cos it's currently the 'correct' opinion to hold & it lets you play the good guy. Virtue signalling from the woke mate that's alls it is
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Post by noustie on Sept 3, 2022 12:32:12 GMT
www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj.o2016/rrLetter in the BMJ from people whose pronouns are 'doctor' demanding stronger governence and greater research into what is a belief based system based on little empirical data following the huge failings found by Cass review.
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Post by butlerstbob on Sept 3, 2022 12:42:22 GMT
Fuck me. Some people really have got too much time on their hands. Fuck you? Do you have a fanny?? 😉
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 3, 2022 13:04:32 GMT
Fuck me. Some people really have got too much time on their hands. Fuck you? Do you have a fanny?? 😉 That's a matter between me and my Parish Priest.
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 3, 2022 13:09:01 GMT
Cultural Marxism: The Root of Trans Rights, etc
Wonder where the trans “rights” movement comes from? Answer: Soft Marxism Question: What do Black Lives Matter, trans “rights,” same-sex “marriage,” feminism, campus safe spaces, multiculturalism, political correctness, gender studies and the modern social justice movements have in common? All these movements and ideas are cut from the fabric of a new “soft” Marxism. As we have restated many times, ideas have consequences. And often those consequences do not manifest themselves in daily life for a generation or more. Twenty years passed from the time William Wilberforce began campaigning to outlaw slavery in England before the Slave Trade Act became law. Margaret Sanger opened the first birth-control clinic in the US in 1916; 57 years later Roe v Wade made abortion legal. As ideas take time to mature into government policies and then programs that affect everyday citizens, many of the trends mentioned above, and more, which are sweeping the globe today were born in Germany between the first and second world wars and are known as soft Marxism, or cultural Marxism.
This intellectual movement began at The Frankfurt School, at Goethe University, in Frankfurt, Germany. The Frankfurt school rejected both capitalism in the West and traditional Marxism in the Soviet Union. The first attack of these intellectuals was on capitalism. Both traditional Marxism and the new soft Marxism are strongly anti-capitalist. Traditional Marxism was based on a kind of economic determinism that believed that capitalist societies would ultimately collapse as oppressed workers rose up and revolted against oppressive capitalists and ushered in communism. When that didn’t happen, the Frankfurt School social theorists redirected their aim at the culture that gave rise to capitalism. If that culture could be transformed, then the desired revolution could happen. Of course, the culture that gave rise to capitalism was Western, Christian and largely Protestant. The key shapers and drivers of the culture were the Christian religion, families, and education. All of these became the new targets. They reframed the conflict from “capitalists vs. exploited workers” to “white European Christian males vs. exploited minorities” (blacks, homosexuals, Muslims, etc.) While traditional Marxism embraced an economic struggle between the haves and the have nots, soft Marxism places the conflict in social terms, the majority and the minority. The majority are the privileged and oppressors, the minority are the under-privileged and oppressed. The Frankfurt School social theorists fled Germany to escape the Nazi regime in the years leading up to WWII and came to America where they took leadership roles in American universities. This explains why the US (ironically, since we fought and won the cold war against the USSR) has become one of the strongest centers of Marxism in the world today. The Social Sciences and Humanities departments of American (and other Western) universities are rife with soft Marxism. They attacked education (particularly history, Western civ, etc.) through the promotion of a broad approach known as “Critical Theory.” This school of thought can be understood fairly simply as the critique of anything with roots in historically Protestant, Western culture. So “Black Critical Theory” was the study of how white Protestant European culture gave rise to the systemic and institutional oppression of blacks. Feminist Critical Theory focused on how White Protestant European culture gave rise to a dangerous patriarchal society that oppressed women. Over time, various Critical Theory courses replaced the study of American history and Western Civilization, which is now almost completely absent from university curricula.
Soft Marxism is the ideological framework behind the trans “rights” movement
In the public square beyond academia, this has worked out to a kind of tribalism of identity politics. Every group of non-white, or non-Christian, or “non-male” identity claims the status of an oppressed minority, a victim of white, male Protestant systemic oppression. It explains the rise of PC and sensitivity training. Finally, they attacked the family by fomenting the sexual revolution in hopes of ushering in the desired cultural revolution. Marcuse (one of the Frankfurt School’s original members) borrowed heavily from Freud and assaulted the family by encouraging the sexual revolution in the 60s. Hugh Heffner was not a Marxist, but he was what you might call a “useful idiot” as someone who furthered the soft Marxist cause of the breakdown of marriage and family. A key donor is billionaire George Soros who is committed to the breakdown of Protestant Western civilization. In this school of thought, heterosexuals, whites, natural families and Christians are oppressive. Thus LGBT and trans, blacks and Hispanics, alternative families, and Muslims are oppressed. If this is the case, then society should support the oppressed and promote transgender, BlackLives Matter, “same sex marriage” and Islam. Those who do not support this agenda are labeled unloving, homophobic, racist, and Islamophobic.
Marxist theorist Antonio Gramsci of Italy saw clearly that it was the God of the Bible and the worldview of Judeo-Christian theism that produced Western civilization. If the West were going to be transformed, it needed to be decoupled from Judeo-Christianity. Before society could be transformed, culture needed to be transformed. Gramsci argued that this transformation would mean a “long march through the culture.” This cultural transformation would lead to a wholesale redefinition of traditional institutions such as the family, the church and civil society. Columnist Linda Kimball writes of the materialist paradigm that is foundational to soft Marxism: The linchpin of Cultural Marxism is cultural determinism, the parent of identity politics and group solidarity. In its turn, cultural determinism was birthed by the Darwinian idea that man is but a soulless animal and therefore his identity is determined by for example, his skin color or his sexual and/or erotic preferences. This proposition rejects the concepts of the human spirit, individuality, free will, and morally informed conscience (paired with personal accountability and responsibility) because it emphatically denies the existence of the God of the Bible. Read more of Kimball’s article here. A growing number of controversies are causing upheaval – BlackLives Matter, trans restrooms, same-sex “marriage.” All these issues are being driven by one Issue – the worldview manifested in Secularism/Atheism and its philosophic offspring, soft Marxism. These matters are not unrelated. They are all connected by a set of ideas. And ideas have consequences. While we need to engage these issues on a policy and programmatic level, until we realize the ideological framework and provide a winsome alternative rooted in Truth, we will continue to witness the onslaught.
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Darrow Miller
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Post by thevoid on Sept 3, 2022 13:11:49 GMT
I'm a fat middle aged bloke with eyes as squint as my teeth but self identify as a stunningly attractive and brave female - none of the heterosexuals on here would shag me (well maybe apart from Badger) because I'm a bloke but a good chunk hypocritically are willing to play along normalising this with women, lesbians especially, and kids having to deal with some wild shit. A bloke who identifies as a women but is keen on keeping their penis presumably for nostalgic purposes is for the watching not the affirming. And why are blokes allowed keep their cocks and call themselves Desirae yet kids who don't fit gender stereotypes, normally with autism/or mental health issues, were going through the Tavistock Gender abattoir at a frightening rate? I wanted to be a pirate at 8 but fortunately my parents didn't chop my leg off, remove an eye and buy me a parrot. I can see the Emperor with his pidge out. Shamima Begum didn't know what she was doing at 15 but infants at 18-24 months know that they're transgender apparently.... www.fatherly.com/health/what-age-do-transgender-kids-know-trans
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 3, 2022 13:30:36 GMT
A person with a vagina. End of. There are women and there are men. No more. I salute you J K Rowling Check the laws of the land Waggy lad, I think you'll find you're wrong.........
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 3, 2022 13:34:08 GMT
A person with a vagina. End of. There are women and there are men. No more. I salute you J K Rowling Check the laws of the land Waggy lad, I think you'll find you're wrong......... Fuck the law of the land . The law of the land used to say slavery was legal as well . Unjust laws shouldn't be 'obeyed'. If it doesn't sit right with your own individual conscience of right and wrong that it means nothing to me . You are either a free man with your own free will or you are a sheep .
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 3, 2022 13:36:01 GMT
Check the laws of the land Waggy lad, I think you'll find you're wrong......... Fuck the law of the land . The law of the land used to say slavery was legal as well . Unjust laws shouldn't be 'obeyed'. If it doesn't sit right with your own individual conscience of right and wrong that it means nothing to me . You are either a free man with your own free will or you are a sheep . This particular law sits perfectly well with me, but thanks for the rousing speech..........
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2022 13:38:14 GMT
The PFJ were way ahead of their time with this nonsense
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 3, 2022 13:42:32 GMT
Fuck the law of the land . The law of the land used to say slavery was legal as well . Unjust laws shouldn't be 'obeyed'. If it doesn't sit right with your own individual conscience of right and wrong that it means nothing to me . You are either a free man with your own free will or you are a sheep . This particular law sits perfectly well with me, but thanks for the rousing speech.......... I wouldn't call it rousing and it defo wasn't a speech. That's the beauty of a 'free country, we are all free to have our own opinions, what's right for you isn't necessarily right for me and others. I don't think anyone is trying to deny trans folk their rights, most people just don't want it in their faces all day every day and don't think it's appropriate to indoctrinate children with that world view. The fact that we are a 'free' country (supposedly) is also part of the reason we are so divided. I wouldn't give an inch to you or your opinions and I could well image the feelings mutual, which means whilst there is so much difference in thought and perspectives there will never be true unity which although is a shame it's something I'm 100% fine with.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 3, 2022 13:55:40 GMT
This particular law sits perfectly well with me, but thanks for the rousing speech.......... I wouldn't call it rousing and it defo wasn't a speech. That's the beauty of a 'free country, we are all free to have our own opinions, what's right for you isn't necessarily right for me and others. I don't think anyone is trying to deny trans folk their rights, most people just don't want it in their faces all day every day and don't think it's appropriate to indoctrinate children with that world view. The fact that we are a 'free' country (supposedly) is also part of the reason we are so divided. I wouldn't give an inch to you or your opinions and I could well image the feelings mutual, which means whilst there is so much difference in thought and perspectives there will never be true unity which although is a shame it's something I'm 100% fine with.
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Sept 3, 2022 14:01:10 GMT
I wouldn't call it rousing and it defo wasn't a speech. That's the beauty of a 'free country, we are all free to have our own opinions, what's right for you isn't necessarily right for me and others. I don't think anyone is trying to deny trans folk their rights, most people just don't want it in their faces all day every day and don't think it's appropriate to indoctrinate children with that world view. The fact that we are a 'free' country (supposedly) is also part of the reason we are so divided. I wouldn't give an inch to you or your opinions and I could well image the feelings mutual, which means whilst there is so much difference in thought and perspectives there will never be true unity which although is a shame it's something I'm 100% fine with. I agree . It isn't the trans folk in the main . It's the lefty media. Most trans just want to get on with their lives. I support them fully
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